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Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

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"Lady Cai, might I interject before we begin?" Kang Zihao said cooly, dipping his head respectfully in her direction.

She turned her severe gaze to him, staring him down for a full three count before inclining her head slightly. "You may, what is your objection Kang Zihao?"

"Thank you Lady Cai," he replied, Ling Qi might have even thought him sincere if she didn't know better. "While I can understand an exemption for that one," he glanced pointedly at Ling Qi. "As we all have our seconds. What is THAT doing here?" He asked, disgust in his voice as he pointed Ji Rong.

The burned boy simply fixed him with an unimpressed look, he seemed much more confident than the last time Ling Qi had seen him. "You wanna have a go pretty boy? If you're talking to me like that, then you know damn well that I killed a Mid Red Realm when I was a mortal yet. You really want to try your luck?"

Huang Da's expression grew more sour still. "Do not brag as if it were some achievement, scum, only luck saved your miserable hide."

"That so," Ji rong replied, unimpressed, cracking the knuckles on his uncovered hand. "The way I hear it, luck is just another kinda strength. The creepy fuck shoulda been more alert while they was going around playin vampire."
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@yrsillar I'm a bit confused by this scene. Do both Zihao and Huang Da have beef with Ji Rong? Is Huang Da just interjecting in the middle of the scene? Or is this meant to be 1 person the entire time?

On another note, Ji Rong uses a cestus, which apparently is basically an armored fist. As guessed, that might mean he's mostly a melee character with unarmed mastery. Good thing about those sorts of weapons is that it's hard to disarm him from his 'weapon' and even if he were, his unarmed mastery is going to be pretty high and still apply to his attacks.
 
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Not a single plan cultivates spiritual? We already skipped cultivating it last week, we can't afford constantly skipping it several weeks in a row. Physical dices are far better then spiritual ones, so we need to cultivate spiritual more often to keep it up to par with physical.

And what is it with sending mother some money? While it doesn't cost us anything meaningful, it is a waste of a action in a time when everything around us is burning. She survived 4 years without us, I don't think she will have trouble waiting for a few more weeks.

On other hand, Bai Meizhen has been noted of needing a soak due to being tired, so we should work on that trough Gu Xiulan. Han Jian has also been having problems, with his talent not being high enough and he has been falling behind. Lastly Suyin has been working herself into the ground, and the last fight seems to have shaken her to the core, we better face her fears and worries now, before it's too late. Those seems like actions which we can't put off. We likewise need to keep up our cultivation, now that we have breached towards Yellow/Silver we need to keep our advantage, and continue climbing trough the ranks. Last action should be Argent Soul so that we can at long last finish it, and while it's probably going to be done in several weeks, and we could push it more now, we are overwhelmed by social flags.


[X] Plan Steady Cultivation and taking care off tired friends
-[X] Resources: 3 Red Stones, Bear Marrow Elixir (Cost 4), Argent Accumulation (Cost 2), Argent Elixir (Cost 10)
-[X] Go out with Xiulan in your downtime, perhaps she can help you do something with your hair
--[X] Ask about inviting Bai Meizhen
-[X] You are still worried about Suyin, perhaps the two of you could study formations together? It might get her mind off things
-[X] Help Suyin train and cultivate at the vent
--[X] Argent Soul
-[X] Train with Han Jian and his group
--[X] Physical
-[X] Cultivate on your own
--[X] Spiritual
-[X] Try to spend some time with Han Jian, couch it as wanting to ask him about spirit binding

Also, making sure we know more about spirit binding is a great plus, even if it is a cover. Is there a limit on how many beasts we can store at Yellow stage? Can it die or be replaced? Is the choice irreversible? It's one of our many blank points in terms of cultivation, and should be taken care off as soon as possible.
 
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mrttao said:
Why do you think it is a free action?
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I would think it is a free action because we are not actually inviting him to the Argent Vent, but asking him if he would be willing to pay for it.

As for the reasons for bringing Han Jian and his crew up to the vent, I was against it, but there are certain things that I think warrant it now. Li Suyin needs more human contact and other friends. With the major obstacle of Gu Xiulan out of the way, the ability to train with others and get some social experience in is going to be beneficial. Secondly, I would rather deny Huang Da the opportunity to use the AS vent, and with another group up there he will find it difficult to use it.
 
Kshail said:
Well not like Stamina is winning anyways...but we'd still be near the cap of yellow stat wise if we reach 5 before peak. I'm still confident we'd reach 6 though. It's not like I calculated it but I figure our current rate of growth on that is enough.
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We pick up 1 point on most turns unless running omakes, combat and/or drugs
 
I'm thinking involving money in something meant to be a friendship sounds like a bad idea. I can't see any way for this to go right unless we're a social guru. Which we aren't
 
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Katreus said:
@yrsillar I'm a bit confused by this scene. Do both Zihao and Huang Da have beef with Ji Rong? Is Huang Da just interjecting in the middle of the scene? Or is this meant to be 1 person the entire time?

On another note, Ji Rong uses a cestus, which apparently is basically an armored fist. As guessed, that might mean he's mostly a melee character with unarmed mastery. Good thing about those sorts of weapons is that it's hard to disarm him from his 'weapon' and even if he were, his unarmed mastery is going to be pretty high and still apply to his attacks.
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Seems to me like Zihao is just a snob. Huang Da is the one who was actually offended by mention of the murder. Zihao's probably just overcompensating because the power of his own family is so tenuous and dependant on the good will of the Empress.
 
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TotallyNotEvil said:
[X] [Stat] Dexterity

[X] Plan As Swift as a Coursing River

So, the inner sect test being a tournament with very limited spots thoroughly kills the "we don't need dps" thing going around.
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Hah, you're naive. They'll argue that we can lean on our spirits the whole way, even though Support Skills are get better the larger our team... and we'll have at most like two/three spirits at that point. Oh, and as we'll have to beat the spirits we claim, we probably aren't up to binding particularly martial spirits.

No, with that, unless team realist can actually dig in their heels, I'm giving up on inner sect.

Like, we made the right choice to get there, Wings was personal focused and will help us develop personal power, but you can already see people don't want to go for that. They were literally complaining about it right after the update.

Edit: Ninja'd by the person claiming we can lean on spirits.
 
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Kshail said:
I thinking involving money in something meant to be a friendship sounds like a bad idea. I can't see any way for this to go right unless we're a social guru. Which we aren't
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The argument is that it's not involving frendship for Li Suyin and Su Ling. They have one advantage over Han Jian's group if they want to be in the top 8 at the end of the year, so a minimum of 80 spirit stones + training each/week is what would be 'fair' for access to the vent for them.
TheLastOne said:
Hah, you're naive. They'll argue that we can lean on our spirits the whole way, even though Support Skills are get better the larger our team... and we'll have at most like two/three spirits at that point. Oh, and as we'll have to beat the spirits we claim, we probably aren't up to binding particularly martial spirits.

No, with that, unless team realist can actually dig in their heels, I'm giving up on inner sect.

Like, we made the right choice to get there, Wings was personal focused and will help us develop personal power, but you can already see people don't want to go for that. They were literally complaining about it right after the update.
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We need to be in the Top 8, not to be actually stronger than our peers.
Kshail said:
Well good thing most of those are pretty likely to happen then right?
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That still mean not getting close to what's needed if you want 'everything'.

OTOH, now that we are silver we should be getting points faster.
 
@Thor's Twin I don't think that is something we should bring up without talking to Li suyin or fox girl first. I think it would cause unnecessary friction between our groups of friends.
 
Kshail said:
I thinking involving money in something meant to be a friendship sounds like a bad idea. I can't see any way for this to go right unless we're a social guru. Which we aren't
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I would argue that us spending time asking him about spirit binding is the friendship thing while giving him the vent is not strictly a friendship thing. We are giving him the option because we are friends, but in the end, it is not our call to make. We need to convince our other friends that they should let others accesses to this spot, and that is easier if the other people are willing to do some training and paying some spirit stones.
 
veekie said:
Bring Your Own Warband sounds appealing to me.

Should we go for a superminion, a themed team or shoot for type coverage?
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The more minion we have the better our heart arts works.
Thor's Twin said:
I would argue that us spending time asking him about spirit binding is the friendship thing while giving him the vent is not strictly a friendship thing. We are giving him the option because we are friends, but in the end, it is not our call to make. We need to convince our other friends that they should let others accesses to this spot, and that is easier if the other people are willing to do some training and paying some spirit stones.
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Yeah, the vent not only is not ours, but it's very important to keep in mind that Li Suyin and Su Ling were already chased off of their house. They don't want to consider the vent hostile territory at all.
Umi-san said:
how r these different
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Basically we need to make sure there is less than 8 people that are our peers.
@TotallyNotEvil I'd appreciate if you don't misuse ratings.
 
Arkeus said:
The argument is that it's not involving frendship for Li Suyin and Su Ling. They have one advantage over Han Jian's group if they want to be in the top 8 at the end of the year, so a minimum of 80 spirit stones + training each/week is what would be 'fair' for access to the vent for them.

We need to be in the Top 8, not to be actually stronger than our peers.

That still mean not getting close to what's needed if you want 'everything'.

OTOH, now that we are silver we should be getting points faster.
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No, we need to not only be stronger in a fight then our peers, we need to be stronger in a fight then our peers for the last two year - everyone who was good enough to compete last year, but not good enough to pass, and some from the year before that.
 
Arkeus said:
It really, really doesn't? It means we must make sure that we are largely above the number 8 and thus he isn't an equal.

Also means we probably wants lots of pokemons.
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To be largely above the number eight, in combat spec, does mean we need to be able to punch face. Especially as other disciples with thoroughly leveled basics come at us.

Full support is what we in the business call a paper tiger.

In really happy with Wings focusing on Spine arts. CoDzilla is the way to go for Ling Qi.

Going for a super meatshield spirit while we snipe is a good strategy, for example, but so is setting Mist up, roll our buffed stealth and sneak attack away. Two ways that synergize with our build and aptitude.

Notice both rely on being able to meaningfully oppose the enemy.
 
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Umi-san said:
how r these different
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Our peers would be the people in the top eight. We don't need to be stronger than 7 of our peers, just stronger than everyone else trying for 8th place.

In that vein, I would think we should get a direct damage art of our own, my personal preference would be an acid art that eats away at the opponents qi.
 
Speaking of the timing of talking to Han Jian, @Neshuakadal does make a good point about the order of asking. We really should ask Li Suyin and Su Ling if they would be willing to sell access to the vent first. It would be bad form to ask Han Jian and then retract the offer because our other friends are interested in selling.

In that line of thinking, I'm considering removing the subclause of talking to Han Jian and moving it to the training with Li Suyin, possibly coaching it so that she has more people to socialize and train with.
 
Arkeus said:
Basically we need to make sure there is less than 8 people that are our peers.
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less than 8 people who are our peers at 1-on-1 cultivator combat. And the added strength necessary to ensure "bad luck" in the tournament scheduling doesn't hamstring us with early failures.

We can get more dps or try to get more than 1 spirit beast higher than level 1. Honestly simply focusing more on bows or something seems like the better path. We'd otherwise have to try to capture a bunch of spirit beasts of a threatening enough power level (which requires us to cultivate to a higher level that can capture more beasts). These beasts will drain our future cultivation due to the actions required of us to make them stronger and/or get them.

I'd rather get just the wolf pup and develop bow skills than a six-pokemon lineup. Ranger > beastmaster.
 
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Thor's Twin said:
Our peers would be the people in the top eight. We don't need to be stronger than 7 of our peers, just stronger than everyone else trying for 8th place.

In that vein, I would think we should get a direct damage art of our own, my personal preference would be an acid art that eats away at the opponents qi.
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Basically this. Our peers are the top of the ladder. We have seen this update that there is currently less than 10 people in Yellow (discounting vassals). This means that as long as we make sure we are at the same level as Cai/Meizhen/Sun Liling, we don't need to worry about being able to punch people on our level, just being able to punch people much weaker than us.

I'm expecting that 'top of the ladder' to include Ji Rong at the end, but I'm not even sure Zihao would still be there. There might also be one or two older disciples, but we were told they had less potential to be outliers there.
 
Katreus said:
@yrsillar I'm a bit confused by this scene. Do both Zihao and Huang Da have beef with Ji Rong? Is Huang Da just interjecting in the middle of the scene? Or is this meant to be 1 person the entire time?

On another note, Ji Rong uses a cestus, which apparently is basically an armored fist. As guessed, that might mean he's mostly a melee character with unarmed mastery. Good thing about those sorts of weapons is that it's hard to disarm him from his 'weapon' and even if he were, his unarmed mastery is going to be pretty high and still apply to his attacks.
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Kang interjects, because he objects to a commoner who ganked a noble, then after Ji Rong boasts Huang Da interjects because the boast made him lose his temper.
 
Thor's Twin said:
Speaking of the timing of talking to Han Jian, @Neshuakadal does make a good point about the order of asking. We really should ask Li Suyin and Su Ling if they would be willing to sell access to the vent first. It would be bad form to ask Han Jian and then retract the offer because our other friends are interested in selling.

In that line of thinking, I'm considering removing the subclause of talking to Han Jian and moving it to the training with Li Suyin, possibly coaching it so that she has more people to socialize and train with.
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Uh, ideally shouldn't you ask first and then tell Han Jian the next week without assuming your friends won't upset those plans because they value privacy after recent events?
 
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