Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

TotallyNotEvil · May 7, 2017

Arkeus said:
Tea on FVM

But FVM has a very low dice value, compared to Meridians. It can't benefit from Qi Foundation, while Meridians do benefit from Sable Light.

As far as I know, we always do Spiritual in class unless we choose otherwise.

I'd rather do Zephyr or Physical than AS. Specially Physical. We could very well get to Peak Gold in Week 12 from a single extra action, or very, very close to it. Lets milk the lesson bonus while it lasts.

Arkeus · May 7, 2017

TotallyNotEvil said:
But FVM has a very low dice value, compared to Meridians. It can't benefit from Qi Foundation, while Meridians do benefit from Sable Light.

The thing is, one action takes us close enough that the second action will have overflow better than overflow from meridians.

As far as I know, we always do Spiritual in class unless we choose otherwise.

Yes, that is why I have AS being cultivated alone (still benefit from Vent) and Spiritual in class as far as I know. @TheLastOne thinks that as the class are specialising on AS (but also breakthroughs) it should have switched to AS, but I am unsure, hence waiting for an answer from QM about that.

Vanguard_D · May 7, 2017

Arkeus said:
If we are doing AS in class I'll switch to Spiritual on our own. I'm waiting for @yrsillar to answer whether the default switched to AS in class or not.

Why use the Qi pill if only one action benefits from it?

Kshail · May 7, 2017

Just specify anyways..? It doesn't really matter if you want something else we switch. If it's what we'd do anyways nothing changes.

TheLastOne · May 7, 2017

While not a perfect plan, it I think this is a decent one that doesn't waste actions on half-measures, and tries to keep our forward momentum in cultivation.

[X] Beneath the Horizon of my Contempt.
-[X] Two Red Stone, 1 Argent Accumulation Pill, 1 Gushing Spring Pills, 1 Qi Foundation Pill.
-[X] Instructor Zhou Class (Locked-In)
--[x] Warn Gui Xuilian and Han Jian that we've picked up a Stalker. Also that we're going to be doing all the drugs next week, and probably won't be good company.
--[X] Start using arts in class. Now that an enemy knows about them, it's more valuable to try and improve in a real world situation then keep them hidden.
-[X] Elder Su's Class (Locked-In)
--[X] Ask Elder Su how would one go about getting the next Argent cultivation art once one get the 5th layer.
--[X] Argent Soul
-[X] Go up to the vent to cultivate with Su Ling and Li Suyin
--[X] Warn them that we're going to be doing all the drugs next week, and will have a zombie for a face.
--[X] Cultivate Forgotten Vale Melody
-[X] Talk to Han Jian, he did mention wanting to do some training
--[X] Sable Crescent Step
--[X] See about inviting Su Ling and Li Suyin
-[X] Cultivate on your own
--[X] Qi.
-[X] Head to the market for some shopping

Arkeus · May 7, 2017

Vanguard_D said:
Why use the Qi pill if only one action benefits from it?

Because if we are going to go to Yellow on Week 13 and we have 3 Qi Foundation Pill (One we just got, one we'll get for week 10, and one for week 12) this means we have to use one every turn if we want to use them at all.

Kshail said:
Just specify anyways..? It doesn't really matter if you want something else we switch. If it's what we'd do anyways nothing changes.

Yeah, I am dumb.

notanautomaton · May 7, 2017

[x] Beneath the Horizen of my contempt.

TheLastOne said:
Two Red Stone, 1 Argent Accumulation Pill, 1 Qi Foundation Pill

Can you add in a Sable Light Pill? It would give us three Qi rolls. Maybe remove the Argent Accumulation Pill as well since we're not Cultivating Argent Soul?

TotallyNotEvil · May 7, 2017

Arkeus said:
Yes, that is why I have AS being cultivated alone (still benefit from Vent)

We don't need to cultivate AS to get the automatic successes. Yrsillar said that, as long as we do cultivate something in the Vent, we will get those.

Another "social", or even better, Physical Cultivation (to make use of the Bear Marrow Elixir and Lesson bonus) would be awesome.

Vanguard_D said:
Why use the Qi pill if only one action benefits from it?

We will most certainly get one for making AS 4 in two weeks.

Arkeus · May 7, 2017

TotallyNotEvil said:
We don't need to cultivate AS to get the automatic successes. Yrsillar said that, as long as we do cultivate something in the Vent, we will get those.

I'm like 99% sure you misread what @yrsillar said, and that what we don't need is to precise 'cultivate in vent' for us to get the auto success if we do cultivate it and do spend an action in vent..

TheLastOne · May 7, 2017

notanautomaton said:
[x] Benieth the Horizen of my contempt.

Can you add in a Sable Light Pill? It would give us three Qi rolls. Maybe remove the Argent Accumulation Pill as well since we're not Cultivating Argent Soul?

We are in class - that's all the Teacher is doing for the last month. On the other hand, using the Sable Pill next week instead of this gets us the equivalent of slightly more then two extra actions of cultivation.

Grigori · May 7, 2017

[x] Beneath the Horizon of my Contempt

yrsillar · May 7, 2017

Alright can't answer everything, but let me get a few out while I'm on break. Lesson still defaults to spiritual, but just using the vent at all gives you your 5 autos. Qi foundation does stop being useful at red/silver. It was a bit of an oversight on my part, but you can choose to cultivate an art in the Han Jian action. This will reveal the art to them obviously

And for folks who are worried, I'm not gonna go super dark with the Huang Da sub plot. He totally might revert to serial killer mode depending on the circumstances tho.

Sirrocco · May 7, 2017

TheLastOne said:
While not a perfect plan, it I think this is a decent one that doesn't waste actions on half-measures, and tries to keep our forward momentum in cultivation.

[x] Beneath the Horizon of my Contempt.
-[X] Two Red Stone, 1 Argent Accumulation Pill, 1 Qi Foundation Pill
-[X] Instructor Zhou Class (Locked-In)
--[x] Warn Gui Xuilian and Han Jian that we've picked up a Stalker. Also that we're going to be doing all the drugs next week, and probably won't be good company.
--[x] Start using arts in class. Now that an enemy knows about them, it's more valuable to try and improve in a real world situation then keep them hidden.
-[X] Go up to the vent to cultivate with Su Ling and Li Suyin
--[X] Warn them that we're going to be doing all the drugs next week, and will have a zombie for a face.
--[X] Sable Crescent Step
-[X] Talk to Han Jian, he did mention wanting to do some training
--[X] Start using all our arts.
--[X]See about inviting Su Ling and Li Suyin
-[X] Cultivate on your own
--[X] Forgotten Vale Melody
--[X] Zephyr's Breath

Zephyr's breath has 31 successes to level 3, and I can almost guarantee that the crafter's hall is going to have some useful pills on offer. Being able to add a few more stacking bonuses to our super-turn seems like it would be worthwhile, doesn't it?

Vanguard_D · May 7, 2017

Wait if we can cultivate an art in the Han Jian action... we could grab the Gu Xuilan and still have 3 actions dedicated to arts, might even grab a meridian in class if we want. If we do that can we please use the Sable light+Qi pill combo this turn also?

Arkeus · May 7, 2017

Vanguard_D said:
Wait if we can cultivate an art in the Han Jian action... we could grab the Gu Xuilan and still have 3 actions dedicated to arts, might even grab a meridian in class if we want. If we do that can we please use the Sable light+Qi pill combo this turn also?

Noooo, Sable Light Pill is for 6 actions turns

Don't worry, we'll get 6 actions in Yellow even without Tea so that won't be an issue

Humbaba · May 7, 2017

yrsillar said:
Alright can't answer everything, but let me get a few out while I'm on break. Lesson still defaults to spiritual, but just using the vent at all gives you your 5 autos. Qi foundation does stop being useful at red/silver. It was a bit of an oversight on my part, but you can choose to cultivate an art in the Han Jian action. This will reveal the art to them obviously

And for folks who are worried, I'm not gonna go super dark with the Huang Da sub plot. He totally might revert to serial killer mode depending on the circumstances tho.

Sorry does that mean we get the 5 auto's as long as we use the vent at all in the turn? Or as long as we use the vent and train AS somewhere in the turn?
I.e. if we do 2 spiritual cultivation actions and use the vent and no actions on Argent soul do we still automatically gain +5 to our AS.
Or as long we use the vent somewhere in the turn + an AS training action we get the 5 autosux.

Because the former would change the gameplans a lot.

Arkeus · May 7, 2017

@TheLastOne So, huh, it default to spiritual... and here is my current plan, which, huh, might be eerily similar to yours, as we learned we can train an art in Han Jian action.

[X]Fast and Steady
[X]2 Red Spirit Stone
[X]Qi Foundation Pill
[X]Gushing Spring Pill.

-[X]Ask Elder Su how would one go about getting the next Argent cultivation art once one get the 5th layer.
-[X]Ask Su Ling and Li Siyun if they'd agree to come meet friends for training, explain it's a group of friend we'd want to coordinate alliance with and if the two of them approve later can invite them to the vent. As the Truce ends alliances are needed.
[X] Stop holding back in physical cultivation class
[X] Talk to Han Jian, he did mention wanting to do some training
-[X] Start using all our arts.
-[X] Train an Art - FVM-
-[X] Ask if you can invite friends over for training.
[X] Spend some time with Gu Xiulan and ask for advice... she has to have some experience with unwanted... suitors, right?
[X] Go up to the vent to cultivate with Su Ling and Li Suyin
-[X] Art - Sable Crescent Step-
[X] Cultivate on your own
-[X]Argent Soul

Vanguard_D · May 7, 2017

@Arkeus you can probably specify showing SCS in the Han Jian option also. Just to be safe, unless you only want to show FVM?

Arkeus · May 7, 2017

Vanguard_D said:
@Arkeus you can probably specify showing SCS in the Han Jian option also. Just to be safe, unless you only want to show FVM?

We are kind of using the art in Elder Zhou's class, so I was assuming we'd do so in private too. I can add it of course.

Vanguard_D · May 7, 2017

Arkeus said:
We are kind of using the art in Elder Zhou's class, so I was assuming we'd do so in private too. I can add it of course.

Oh right missed that part. Sorry.

Really should go to bed. Still showing it to them first might be a bit of a show of trust? Even if we go for using it in the physical classes this week.

[X]Fast and Steady

Will check with the plans later but this for now.

yrsillar · May 7, 2017

You get the autos as long as you are using the vent, even if you aren't training AS

TheLastOne · May 7, 2017

yrsillar said:
Alright can't answer everything, but let me get a few out while I'm on break. Lesson still defaults to spiritual, but just using the vent at all gives you your 5 autos. Qi foundation does stop being useful at red/silver. It was a bit of an oversight on my part, but you can choose to cultivate an art in the Han Jian action. This will reveal the art to them obviously

And for folks who are worried, I'm not gonna go super dark with the Huang Da sub plot. He totally might revert to serial killer mode depending on the circumstances tho.

Huh, ok, that slightly changes my plan but not much. Thanks!

Let me do a quick edit now.

Arkeus · May 7, 2017

yrsillar said:
You get the autos as long as you are using the vent, even if you aren't training AS

That Vent is really incredibly good lol. That's... order of magnitude better than I thought, given not only how often we'll end up doing other things, but also for our allies.

Vanguard_D · May 7, 2017

Well even Meizhen was impressed by it so it kinda makes sense.

Alectai · May 7, 2017

Man, that's what I've been saying you guys.

Anyway, if we're going to train FVM, shouldn't we use one of those water Qi boosters?

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