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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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BurnNote said:
What do you expect from that? Like, we already checked up on them once. Maybe they found a way to breed them, which is whatever, or they didn't, which is also whatever.
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I dont remember any instance where we checked up on them. Like, I remember this action being available forever, without any knowledge of what became of our living loot. Can you give the link to the post where we checked up on the salamanders?
 
picklepikkl said:
the number of people interested in the salamanders for their own sake is sadly only middling compared to the other stuff around.
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But it is at least consistently middling and gets discussed regularly, to the point where it's unlikely to disappear from the list until it's crossed off. Unlike, say, checking in with Julia, who as far as I can remember never even got talked about as an option until she quietly dropped from the "Foreign Friends" section around the time the Waystone Project started up.
 
Boney said:
To be able to address the slit with a knife, you'd need to be able to move your hand in a fourth spacial direction, that of the liminal barrier. The only part of you able to do that is your soul, which exists partially in the Aethyric realm and is able to delve deeper into it, most commonly during dreams. When magic enters a soul, it gets closer to the realm that birthed it, which is what makes magic so powerful and dangerous. Which means that if you pass magic back and forth between your soul and your body at the edge of the slit, sawing back and forth like a cheesewire, then...

With an indescribably unpleasant noise that echoes off the mountains, the tear grows unevenly and jerkily in the direction of your effort of will, widening the hole between reality and the liminal realm. As you circle around it you wince at the uneven shape of it compared to the slit that it had been, but at least it works. It's slightly alarming to create a rent in reality with such a small effort, though it makes sense that it's so much easier to enlarge an existing hole than to tear a new one.
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Belatedly:

Is it wrong that my head suddenly started picturing this scene with the sound of a chainsaw?

One the one hand, I know it's almost certainly the wrong sound effect, but on the other the imagery of a wizard staring at a hole in reality before said hole begins to widen with the sudden sound of an invisible chainsaw just... I can't help but get attached.
 
The Phoenixian said:
Belatedly:

Is it wrong that my head suddenly started picturing this scene with the sound of a chainsaw?

One the one hand, I know it's almost certainly the wrong sound effect, but on the other the imagery of a wizard staring at a hole in reality before said hole begins to widen with the sudden sound of an invisible chainsaw just... I can't help but get attached.
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The mention of cheesewire made me think of the squeeky sound you sometimes get when eating grill cheese.
 
I personally imagined a regular saw sound, except turned up to eleven. (Definitely not something I'd want my ears to be in the vicinity of for an extended period, because that's just begging for a headache.)
 
Personally I'm imagining something like the lovechild of nails on chalkboard and rubbing two balloons against each other plus some ultrasonic and infrasonic components that you can't quite consciously hear but your brain still subconsciously perceives and hates, causing the indescribable part of "indescribably unpleasant", played through a rock concert grade loudspeaker.
 
NexusEye said:
Personally I'm imagining something like the lovechild of nails on chalkboard and rubbing two balloons against each other plus some ultrasonic and infrasonic components that you can't quite consciously hear but your brain still subconsciously perceives and hates, causing the indescribable part of "indescribably unpleasant", played through a rock concert grade loudspeaker.
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And probably some of that is perceived through the soul - Mathilde has mostly visual Windsight, but parts of it manifest differently or synesthetically, so I suspect she'd be able to "hear" reality being sawed through with her soul.
 
Gavin Prince said:
But it is at least consistently middling and gets discussed regularly, to the point where it's unlikely to disappear from the list until it's crossed off. Unlike, say, checking in with Julia, who as far as I can remember never even got talked about as an option until she quietly dropped from the "Foreign Friends" section around the time the Waystone Project started up.
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Huh. I know it's kind of unlikely but, when exactly did that 'investigate spymaster' option come up? Because it would be a pretty great prank if the option didn't so much disappear as change…
 
FallenPears said:
Huh. I know it's kind of unlikely but, when exactly did that 'investigate spymaster' option come up? Because it would be a pretty great prank if the option didn't so much disappear as change…
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Julia was removed on T36 and the question of Wissenland's spymaster was added on T41.
Boney said:
Friends Abroad
[ ] Roswita, to get a sense for who will control Sylvania after you turned down the position.
[ ] Julia, to see what she has gotten up to as Stirland's most experienced spy master.
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Boney said:
Foreign Relations
[ ] Stirland, to see for yourself how the war against Sylvania is progressing.
[ ] Middenland, to see how the Ulricans are going with their new Eonir coreligionists.
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Boney said:
Foreign Relations
[ ] Sylvania
Meet this would-be Markgraf Nyklaus for yourself.
[ ] Middenland
See how the Ulricans are going with their new Eonir coreligionists.
[ ] The Black Water Canal
Pay another visit to the canal project, and see if there's any further signs of sabotage.
[ ] Druchii Diplomats
Check in on these unexpected visitors to Tor Lithanel.
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Boney said:
Foreign Relations
[ ] Middenland
See how the Ulricans are going with their new Eonir coreligionists.
[ ] Nordland
See what's going on with the Ulrican schismatics that Nordland is backing.
[ ] Wissenland
Though the Elector Count is his usual self, some of their actions recently have hinted at the hand of someone a great deal defter. Investigate who took the job of his Spymaster after you turned it down.
[ ] The Black Water Canal
Pay another visit to the canal project, and see if there's any further signs of sabotage.
[ ] Druchii Diplomats
Check in on these unexpected visitors to Tor Lithanel.
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Julia was pretty tied to Flensburg, I would be very surprised if she fucked off to Nuln.
 
picklepikkl said:
Julia was pretty tied to Flensburg, I would be very surprised if she fucked off to Nuln.
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That and it's a point made several times that the new spymaster seems to be familiar with Skaven, which Julia would have no reason to be.

If we're throwing around hypotheticals, Saltzpyre should be a youngish man right now. According to the wiki page he was rather obsessed with Skaven for a number of years.
 
[X] The Black Water Canal
[X] Tzar Boris Bokha
[X] Eike
[X] Eonir Tourism
[X] Nordland
[X] Middenland
[X] Skull River Ambush
[X] Niedzwenka
 
Doesn't seem like Niedzwenka will win, which is something of a shame (but not a great shame, because the current top five are all very exciting and/or useful options). I hope we'll get to ask her later! Maybe she'll have even more to say about Boris after he's been in power for some time?
 
Mopman43 said:
That and it's a point made several times that the new spymaster seems to be familiar with Skaven, which Julia would have no reason to be.

If we're throwing around hypotheticals, Saltzpyre should be a youngish man right now. According to the wiki page he was rather obsessed with Skaven for a number of years.
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I say it was the guy we hired to run the guards. He was let go after Rosi took over, he was clearly familiar with the War Below (though Mathilde wasn't), at least somewhat skilled with intrigue stuff, and Ranald has been on the rise recently.

Hell, he might've even told the guy that he worked under Mathilde Weber to fight the war below, which would likely be seen as a point in his favor, and since he left with her, it might even have been taken as something like "Sorry I can't work for you, but here is one of my agents". Which is the sort of mix of lies, truths, misunderstandings and coincidences that Ranald would find absolutely hilarious.
 
I wonder if we could sell a liminal realm inside tor lithaniel as bonus space or if they would freak out over it or it blends into the dreaming wood or something...
 
Rockeye said:
I wonder if we could sell a liminal realm inside tor lithaniel as bonus space or if they would freak out over it or it blends into the dreaming wood or something...
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Boney stated that the amount of space we could create even with our full amount of AV wouldn't make a dent in Tor Lithanel's requirements. We're talking about an actual city's worth of needing space.

And that is, of course, if they'd be willing to try it in the first place.
 
NexusEye said:
Under certain circumstances they do haunt reality and when they do they're called ghosts. There's a fort in Carcassonne called Summersfall Fort which is famous for being certainly 100% no doubt about it absolutely haunted and if you enter the ghost there will ask you to fight some local Orcs. If you refuse or accept and then give up before you're finished a bunch of ghostly warriors will appear and attack you, the only way to survive is to kill the Orcs you were asked to kill. Disembodied souls of the dead can definitely hang around reality even when they shouldn't.
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This is from an RPG, isn't it? It has "sidequest" written all over it.
Snootleboop said:
I admit i will be quite intrigued to see lizards that can turn into cacti when unobserved
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Alas they are currently believed to only be able to survive in environments not subject to the Burrito Clause.
 
We could probably sell one to a bored noble as a novelty expansion to their house or something. "Do YOU ever want to stare into the void, knowing the horrors of the warp are just the other side of a thin skin of reality? Sign up today!" But we couldn't notably effect the actual issues, yeah.
 
I wonder if at least some of the antipathy towards checking on the results of the salamander eggs is subconsciously that they're living beings. So the brain, pattern-matching to the closest equivalent in the context of a social action, goes "I don't care about playing with some rando's pets".

When really what it should be looked at is having turned in an artefact to the Amber College for research. We're not gonna be petting the salamanders during a visit and remarking on how cute their little frills are; we'll be talking with the College member in charge of that project about the fruits of studying their biology.
 
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And that, I think, is the root of the issue. It's hard enough squeezing in follow-ups between the big new shiny things each turn that like half the thread jumps at by default. So adding the factor of "ugh, didn't we look at that already?" makes it a harder sell even to people more interested in getting the backlog done than running at the new stuff.
 
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