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NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

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[X] Wake the troll

Qe are there to be diplomatic, rummaging trough his things while he sleeps would be a bad idea.

I wonder if we will get again the possibility to take the Trolltalker kenning if we manage to make an agreement with this Troll.
 
[X] Wake the troll

Laws do not apply to the troll, but Nid does not care about that, only our actions anyways.
Also, the troll is near our land, after all. Better know what its after before it tries to take a cattle.
 
Imperial Fister said:
Threadcutter comes out quicker, forcing the opponent to defend. As long as the target is within range at the end, they can be hit by the big attack. It can be interrupted by forcing you to abandon it.
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So, I think this question was partly motivated by discussion over how Threadcutter would work as an attack from a Contested Movement - trying to figure out how many of the nine attacks do we get unopposed, essentially.

I'm assuming all the nine attacks don't need to hit in order to launch the big one, but do they generate Stoked Dice like Basic Attacks from a Stoked Engage which are then added to the finisher? My assumption was yes since this technique was sort of derived from Stoked Engage, but it's worth checking.

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It's two actions. So you can do a folding attack for one and then tap a fast for another, if you wanted to.

To be clear, this trick is liable to be changed and/or altered depending on how broken it ends up being.
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Basically, there are two separate kinds of Shenanigans being wondered about here.

(1) Whether deploying something from a Fast costs an action or not for the purposes of TSS. From what you're saying, it does cost an action slot?

(2) Folded Attacks delivered during a TSS. Given the way Folded attacks work, if we were at let's say Mastered, we could deliver a Three-Folded attack, then a Two-Folded attack, and then a single attack, with the subsequent attacks of the folded techniques would hit on the second and third free rounds we get within the stopped time. This means that Perfected TSS would let us deliver ten attacks, whilst Mastered is six, and Refined is at three.

To some extent I think it's alright that Time Stands Still is a bit busted because... it's an incredibly potent technique and costs us a whole Aspect, it's probably correct that it is. (The investment required to get it to higher levels is not trivial either.) There's undoubtedly some counters that exist, and enemies for whom simply adding more damage isn't the answer to beating them. But obviously this is something where we want to know in advance how it works.
 
Skippy said:
I'm assuming all the nine attacks don't need to hit in order to launch the big one, but do they generate Stoked Dice like Basic Attacks from a Stoked Engage which are then added to the finisher? My assumption was yes since this technique was sort of derived from Stoked Engage, but it's worth checking.
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They don't all need to hit, but I'm going to say that they generate stoked dice dependent on Threadcutter's level of refinement. At Rough, it would generate 0, at Refined, it would generate 1, at Mastered, it would generate 2, and at Perfected, it would generate 3 per attack.
Skippy said:
(1) Whether deploying something from a Fast costs an action or not for the purposes of TSS. From what you're saying, it does cost an action slot?
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It does, correct
Skippy said:
(2) Folded Attacks delivered during a TSS. Given the way Folded attacks work, if we were at let's say Mastered, we could deliver a Three-Folded attack, then a Two-Folded attack, and then a single attack, with the subsequent attacks of the folded techniques would hit on the second and third free rounds we get within the stopped time. This means that Perfected TSS would let us deliver ten attacks, whilst Mastered is six, and Refined is at three.
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Right
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But obviously this is something where we want to know in advance how it works.
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Absolutely. I'm just waiting to get a chance to playtest it properly.
 
Imperial Fister said:
They don't all need to hit, but I'm going to say that they generate stoked dice dependent on Threadcutter's level of refinement. At Rough, it would generate 0, at Refined, it would generate 1, at Mastered, it would generate 2, and at Perfected, it would generate 3 per attack.
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So, this answers almost everything, the only remaining question is how fast Threadcutter puts out those attacks.

Like, doing 9 attacks with Stoking Engage is at +3 Speed, is Threadcutter that fast? Faster? Slower? How fast are we talking? And I'm guessing if used with Contested Movement only the first hit would go undefended?

EDIT: Oh, I guess the question of whether things like Sharpen and Puncture need to be applied to each attack individually or apply to the whole Threadcutter sequence is also relevant. I was assuming individually, but it seems worth asking.
 
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Summer 10/Troll? Cave 2
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    • [X] Wake the troll
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    Resolving not to rummage through the troll's things—no matter how attractive the idea of moving things around slightly before leaving may be—you reach a hand out and gently prod the troll right on top of his surprisingly well-groomed noggin—seriously, his hair, though dark, is luxurious. It's thick and full and shockingly soft to the touch!

    "Wha?" The troll grumbles as you swiftly skip back well out of reach. Blinking through bleary eyes, the troll gropes around near the bedpost next to his head. Finding whatever he was looking for, the troll sits up in bed, carefully unfolds the odd, flimsy-looking metal contraption, and gently places it on his strong, hawkish nose.

    The troll turns towards you with sleep-encrusted eyes, a rather annoyed look on his face like chiseled stone. The accent is a bit hard to understand—like his tongue is too big for his mouth—but it's not that bad compared to Danes, "Firstly, what in the realms is wrong with you, waking a man up when he's trying to sleep? Secondly, who in the realms are you and what are you doing in my damned house?!"

    He's not reaching for his weapons yet, but it's clear that he's thinking about it. You'll have to be careful here, if you want things to stay peaceful.

    Regardless, some things immediately stand out to you when compared to the other troll you've met. The first is that he's actually not that bad looking and isn't that much larger then you. The second is that he doesn't seem to have much in the way of a back—though you only caught a brief glimpse of something iridescent before he turned towards you. The third is that there's something moving around behind him, beneath the furs he was sleeping under.

    What do you do?
    [ ] Write in

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    AN: Not much to say here

    No moratorium, small chance for a third update.
     
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    • This guy seems interesting, let's apologize and say hello.

    [X] Apologize for entering uninvited, introduce ourselves as his new neighbors and suggest that we've had previous bad experiences with trolls, and were perhaps mistaken as to the nature of our new neighbor. Offer something we brought (probably a freshly slaughtered sheep or something like that) as an apology gift/housewarming present.
    -[X] Use Contention Connection and Light Touch to try and avoid violence, Goal Tell to see what the Troll(?) wants, and Cool Off to avoid going off half-cocked ourselves if things get heated.
     
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    Man, now I feel bad for barging in uninvited.

    @Imperial Fister, can we be reasonably assumed to have brought something with us we could use for a peace offering? Freshly slaughtered sheep, something like that?

    I assume when Halla was planning this out, she would have considered the possibility of bribing the troll for information - we approached this without immediately resorting to violence after all.

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    The second is that he doesn't seem to have much in the way of a back—though you only caught a brief glimpse of something iridescent before he turned towards you.
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    Hmm.

    It's possible this isn't a troll, or at least, it's not the kind of troll we've met before.

    One possibility he's some kind of male and earth-oriented version of a hulder, which is a traditional Scandanavian version of a dryad or nymph who appeared beautiful from the front but were hollow from the back. Another thing that occurs to me from "iridescent" is that perhaps his back is actually like a beetle's carapace, and he's got some sort of semi-insectoid thing going on, similar to the svartalves.
     
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