Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

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[X] Like Cordwood, Stack Terror
-[X] Release the Flagellants onto the enemy as the elites attempt to advance to reach the Final Wall of Salkalten, then let the cavalry follow behind to wreak havoc before retreating back through the gates
-[X] Focus on killing as many Druchii as possible
-[X] Re-task the Eonir to focusing on the flyers to support the Whitewings and Oskana+Natasha with their superior accuracy ensuring no chance of friendly fire
-[X] Stand at the gates to fight if they are opened or broken through, which carries its own dangers

I've outlined my thoughts in previous posts and can quote them as needed for clarification, but we aren't here to kill every last one of the Druchii, we're here to drive them off. And that means that with Druchii elites now on the field we're going to be striking at the core base of these Black Arks - their leadership.

Every Druchii killed from this point is another loss to their Heroes command structure. Their long term power base and ability to insulate themselves from the treachery plagued nature of Druchii society.

Our foes literally can not afford to spend all their forces on us, they live forever. We do not. This battle simply has different levels of meaning to us, outside of the Hand of Khaine dude who will fulfill his mission to the death.

But just one guy is a whole hell of a lot easier to manage than an army at his beck and call.

If we kill enough Druchii, chronic backstabbing order will begin to come into play, especially with the Grand Sorceress in the field.

AND EVEN IF IT DOESNT

The fear of it will.

Make no mistake, those artillery and war beasts are worth a lot more than Druchii chaff. But in a super top down hierarchal society like the ones the Druchiis have?

That's very much a bad thing. Chaos is a ladder after all, and why wouldn't those highly valuable elites not gun for a battlefield promotion?

There is a threshold for this phenomenon to occur as a chain cascading failure for the Druchii, and the closer we come to it the more their attention will split as their elites start to watch their own backs, now that they're clear of ablative armor to shield them from behind.

Killing the Druchii by the bushel is slitting their throats, and no one is gonna be more aware of that fact than the Druchii themselves
 
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torroar said:
Seriously though, I just could not justify myself saying 'and then you slice through the propatagium and the tenopatagium the length of the root chord'. Sometimes Frederick lets loose with more sophisticated vocabulary, but it just really didn't seem appropriate for the moment. So I sorta just settled for just sorta saying cutting through the wing. Frederick knows a lotta stuff, engineering, history, architecture, fancy words, etc, but he just...probably wouldn't know those sorts of scientific classifications for certain wing anatomy. A weird bit of lacking knowledge, when he'd just say, you know, the 'front part' of the wing, and such, I guess.
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It's worth remembering that a lot of technical vocabulary is actually just relatively normal words that are taken from dead languages to make them sound fancy. While the Empire as a culture does have languages it can raid for that kind of "use foreign and/or old languages to make things sound fancy" purpose, I would find it amusing to imagine a culture that just doesn't bother with the pretense and calls things "the front part" and "the back part" instead of, I dunno, dorsal and ventral and whatever.
 
Swapped back to [] Re-task the Eonir to focusing on the flyers to support the Whitewings and Oskana+Natasha with their superior accuracy ensuring no chance of friendly fire

Because Every Corpse Counts
 
And then there will be the Eonir version that would be less about castration or even bravery but how the Fancy khaine worshiper was mega murrdered.
 
Ganurath said:
The defeat of Caledor's Bane could be described as a chain of indignities.
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On the upside, imagine the further salt in Druchii quest. Or when Malekith hears of his utter failure and humiliation.

MightbeaMimic said:
The songs are going to be written in a way where we beat the dragon and rider in a totally heroic manner while the double meaning (because it's impossible to not have at least a double meaning in eltharin) implies the castration
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Fortunately, Elves are great poets and such, they can handle that easily.
 
I honestly kinda wish we had a look at Caledors banes internal monologue over the course of that fight

The raw disbelief and mounting rage and horror at the end of it mustve been hilarious
 
The fundamental issue I have with the Unleash the Martyr variants is that it stems our immediate losses while incentivizing further investment of elite forces by the Druchii, thereby prolonging the fight at its current tempo (killing Freddy gogogogogo) which isnt exactly good for us because that leaves more Druchii alive and thus feeds the sunk cost fallacy that lead to the Druchiis remaining leadership into investing themselves in field actions in the first place

This is a problem because the strategic payoff of that move (committing leadership elements to the board and thus risking themselves) has already taken place.

Continuing to focus on the heavier Druchii elements misses truly exploiting the inherent volitality of a Chaos faction, which relies on its quite literal middle management Caste to keep their entire machine running.

Black Arks are floating cities.

And cities need a lot of manpower to run, especially with their chaff as diminished as it has been. Like, straight up.

If we get to kill that last Dragon Rider and shoot down enough dark Pegasii, then boarding the smaller Black Ark legit becomes viable. They simply won't have the hero units to contest the action, and though itd be costly, itd still be on the table.

The Druchii are aware of this, so they'll only risk that potential outcome if they think the payoff outweighs those risks.

Only hitting their expensive - but ultimately replaceable - weapons doesn't alter the existing calculus enough to change this dynamic into one more advantageous for us.

Because that's what the War Beasts and artillery ultimately are. Ultimately replaceable. Thus spending them to spare the lives of their actually important middle management elites is a worthwhile trade for them since it wears us out as well and gives them an opportunity to fight on their terms (i.e. danger close ranges). Which with the dragon still being in play means that if its rider sees an opening he can exploit for maximum breakthrough potential, he can and will take it so long as the battlefield otherwise reaches a manageable equilibrium for us. Which is again bad because giving the Dragon Rider a chance to serve as a breakthrough element during this delicate stage is beyond disastrous for ourselves.

The Druchii themselves are also expendable in the wider context of their society...But they surely dont see themselves as the replaceable ones. And that's the most important distinction here.
 
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To put it another way, the Unleash the Martyrs variants commits the battlefield to a largely equal slugfest exchange now that our artillery numbers have been pared down, and their qualitative advantage is checked by our defensive advantage.

In essence, we smash our strengths against their strengths and hope that a breakthrough element occurs in our favor sooner rather than later.

The issue with this is that our current spread of forces does not possess a check to the third Dragon Rider returning and continuing to fuck over our artillery. Our aerial heroes are all committed to fighting already with our carefully husbanded own hero units under threat from mostly fresh peer threats.

We simply don't have the aerial forces to counter the third dragon Rider right now, so we need to approach this stage of the fight from a position of maximizing our advantages before it can possibly return and rob us of them.
 
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[X] Like Cordwood, Stack Terror
Not sure Freddy's more useful at the gates, I feel like he'd be better on the walls so he has a better view of things, but I've been swayed on prioritising the Druchii infantry.
 
Both the Company Of The Dragonfly and Los Espantos del Torricelli are not totally wiped out the infrantry yes but they both have still 500 Light Cavalry, 500 Heavy Cavalry and 100 Light Cavalry in each group

so if those cav survive this battle they can rebuild
 
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