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If we don't tell anyone about it, what's the harm in trying the magic more? We've kept secrets since the beginning of this quest, what's one more going to do to us.
A) Mathilde can confidently say that she has never broken the Articles. I do think following them is valuable, for her own peace of mind and other reasons.

B) We have no reason to think that the line of inquiry would lead to something that we could teach anybody else, or use in front of other wizards, without getting burnt at the stake.
 
If we don't tell anyone about it, what's the harm in trying the magic more? We've kept secrets since the beginning of this quest, what's one more going to do to us.
Why though?

We literately have other viable paths for expanding our magic like windherder, apparitions, AV, rituals, Languages, and maybe some of the grey college secrets and Alchemy if we get bored I guess if we decide to explore it without us getting burned at the stake and insights gained from them can be given to the entirety of the colleges.
 
Well, alas. I had hoped for a different answer with Tongs, but at least we have an answer now.

For what it's worth it does look like it's possible to do something like Ulgu tongs, there's probably a second Ulgu tongs research action unlocked but it involves using Ulgu -> dhar -> pure other wind. So absolutely 100% illegal nothing like envisaged before but something that would allow using more than one wind of magic. In hindsight ofcourse using Nagashs works as Inspiration would lead to a viable method that revolves around using dhar as the intermediary.

The last avenue for using a 2nd wind without dhar is the divine now.
 
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[x] Edda and the Cult of Valaya
[x] Panoramia, Hluodwica, and the Halflings
[x] Kazrik and the Dwarves of Karak Azul
 
[x] Kazrik and the Dwarves of Karak Azul
[x] Gotri, the K8P Air Corps, and the Cult of Morgrim
[x] Panoramia, Hluodwica, and the Halflings
[X] Belegar Ironhammer
 
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Even in WHF, diplomats and spies will conduct their top secret meetings by duck ponds.
Recall Mathilde meeting quadruple-agent Krammovitch earlier in the thread. The spymaster routinely inspects the ducks in the Tempelgarten to see if they're fatter than usual, as it would imply an uptick from the normal number of spies meeting by the duck pond.
 
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If we don't tell anyone about it, what's the harm in trying the magic more? We've kept secrets since the beginning of this quest, what's one more going to do to us.

Well the real question with this as with other actions is not so much 'what's the harm?' but 'what's the use?' What do you expect to get out of it? A lore of magic we can only use in secret and can't teach? What good is that?
 
Your letter to Wilhelmina broaching the idea of Eike paying a visit to Karak Eight Peaks seems to have been very convincing indeed, because their response comes carried in the hands of Eike herself, who Wolf spots halfway up the stairs of Karag Nar and gives her a ride the rest of the way, leaving her minder from the local EIC branch far behind.
...Hold up. Did... did I just read that right? Some fucking asshole tried to have an eleven-year-old girl climb the literal mountain of stairs? Like, not just a mountain, I know from experience that that's hard enough and a several-hour-long workout, but made out of stairs? Good god, Even if Wolf wasn't best boy before, he'd certainly earn the title for saving her from that torture.
 
Why is Edda so popular?

All the other top picks I get, but that's the one that's making me scratch my head.

even the 'main trade partner' argument makes more sense for Francesco as he is the one that will be middlemaning the trade.
 
Why is Edda so popular?

All the other top picks I get, but that's the one that's making me scratch my head.

even the 'main trade partner' argument makes more sense for Francesco as he is the one that will be middlemaning the trade.
Her primary trait is that she knows better than most the points of friction in dwarven/human interaction in trade. She doesn't know how to solve that friction, but she knows where she gets confused.
 
While obviously I would have liked Mathilde to revolutionize human magic right here and now it is also nice to set the foundation for future research. Perhaps one day when magical science has advanced far enough that Dhar creation is an acceptable risk Mathilde's insight will be used as a guide to further inquiry. Ideally the field gets named with another Mathilde acronym and pun.
 
[X] Kazrik and the Dwarves of Karak Azul
[X] Edda and the Cult of Valaya
[X] Gotri, the K8P Air Corps, and the Cult of Morgrim
 
Her primary trait is that she knows better than most the points of friction in dwarven/human interaction in trade. She doesn't know how to solve that friction, but she knows where she gets confused.
I don't see how that's helpful when teaching an 11 year old about how best to interact with different groups.

an adult, sure, but that kind of Abstract connecting needs Formal operational stage reasoning, otherwise all she will get from it is 'dwarfs are hard to work with.'

there are 14 year olds that aren't at the Formal operational stage.
 
I don't see how that's helpful when teaching an 11 year old about how best to interact with different groups.

an adult, sure, but that kind of Abstract connecting needs Formal operational stage reasoning, otherwise all she will get from it is 'dwarfs are hard to work with.'

there are 14 year olds that aren't at the Formal operational stage.

Her grandmother seems to be trying to teach her as an adult and it is working fine. Why mess with something that's working?

Seriously though I am not really wedded to Edna as a choice, but I think we should avoid the dragon or the giant spiders, she is unlikely to have any sort of fun with either and I would rather we did not have to explain why the kid has nightmares now.
 
While obviously I would have liked Mathilde to revolutionize human magic right here and now it is also nice to set the foundation for future research. Perhaps one day when magical science has advanced far enough that Dhar creation is an acceptable risk Mathilde's insight will be used as a guide to further inquiry. Ideally the field gets named with another Mathilde acronym and pun.
...yeah, no. Dhar is literally a pure evil and destructive substance that corrupts everything it touches and drives people insane. There will never, ever come a time where its creation is at all acceptable.
 
...yeah, no. Dhar is literally a pure evil and destructive substance that corrupts everything it touches and drives people insane. There will never, ever come a time where its creation is at all acceptable.

Yeah, Dhar is literally the thing that makes Dark Magic Dark Magic.

We've read Liber Mortis, which accounts how a person went from rather reasonable and choosing to risk his own self in order to protect Sylvania to ranting about how the Emperor was clearly in league with the Skaven and needed to be fought. It fucks you up baaaaad.

...Also, imo we should probably burn liber mortis sooner rather than later. We've gotten all we can use from it, and given Mathilde started regretting Killing castle Drakenhof, I think we can say that it's not impossible for her to be tempted by it.
 
[X] Edda and the Cult of Valaya
[X] Kazrik and the Dwarves of Karak Azul
[X] Panoramia, Hluodwica, and the Halflings

On second though, Edda might be a bit too... advanced a lesson for now. Plus we don't really need to teach Eike how to deal with someone rather similar to her own mother. Meanwhile we can't go wrong with Belegar. He fits into basically any combination of choices. So this is what I'm hoping the winning vote looks like now.
 
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