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- Earth
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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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TimEd
Meteor maker
That just means we represent his employers, so same thing really.
That is from a book the GM told us to ignore in its entirety, so to answer your question we are not at all certain we averted his fall, but you should pay no mind to the silly snake pit.
Isn't Belegar paying?
- Location
- Russia
His betrayal could or could not happened in quest world independently of Mathilde's actions, and this snakepit bullshit definitely didn't happen because said novel explicitly was declared non-canon by Boney (thankfully).
or he hasn't yet and there will come a point where Horstmann's loyalty will be decided via author roll!BoneyM rolled a dice unseen to all of us
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A bit disappointed with Hubert. This was an excellent opportunity and excuse to expand his grasp on Azyr, and he wasted it by choosing the self-indulgent path of least resistance of bro-ing around with Ulricans while playing with swords.
In more important news, Johann has in the span of year or two become a Dawongr and even learned to speak Khazalid, thereby successfully passing over Max, who's still "only" Dawongr-ish.
Honestly, it was high time for it (the Johann bit, not the Max bit), since Johann had been talking about liking dwarfs ever since the middle of K8P expedition.
In more important news, Johann has in the span of year or two become a Dawongr and even learned to speak Khazalid, thereby successfully passing over Max, who's still "only" Dawongr-ish.
Honestly, it was high time for it (the Johann bit, not the Max bit), since Johann had been talking about liking dwarfs ever since the middle of K8P expedition.
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Asheram
Not quite altogether
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- Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground
We are kind of getting a bad record with Wizards who specialize in all kinds of stuff instead of continuing their education. But perhaps that's a good thing, all things considered, nurturing a generation of warriors and engineers instead of scientists.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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- within 2 hours of the White House
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- They/Them
Strictly speaking, they're both Pan
- Location
- Before the Ninth Gate
So this is one of two major things we should base our decision on. First, we either want more people in the council to increase our 'vote share' (yes, we don't actually vote, but the council does have influence, and more people on the council is more levers we have to pull), or we want less people on the council to not piss off the dwarves. This is all politics. So I'd maybe hide Arsenil away to avoid offense, and but keep the Knightly orders separate.
The other thing we want to consider is what we want to control in battle. I think that putting us in control of the Knightly orders screws up the chains of command too much, as we are suddenly in charge of two different areas of concern, magic and cavalry, which have very different uses, and don't tend to go together (with the Ambers and Huberts being exceptions). This would be fine if we were in control of all different things as the head of the expedition, and needed to coordinate them, but we aren't, so it's best not to mix up the level of coordination we have.
So the option if the dwarves won't like Asarnil and Asarnil doesn't care about a position in the council much
[X] Lead the Wizards and Asarnil
And the other option
[X] Lead only the Wizards
I don't suppose Asarnil any knows Death magic? At all? As as Elf he should have at least some ability with magic.
Essentially a long list of 'do not poke' reminders.
…she heard something we haven't?
Johann is obviously martial and Max stewardship. Hubert probably fits diplomacy best. Es and Se… learning I suppose, if only because their exotic skill set doesn't overlap with Mathilde's much.
No 'perhaps' about it.
Frostpunk has things called 'Land Dreadnoughts' that seem comparable to those 'wagons'.
Ok. Can someone please explain why the most mobile being on the expedition is being carried rather than moving under his own power?
At minimum I want the knight. Asarnil is more debatable.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
Cause he's old, supreme patriarch, there isn't someone at the time who should have his spot (Starke is canonically meant to be the youngest LM of the Grey a title we've swiped), a character like him kinda has to exist since a college supreme is needed, where as Mathilde doesn't, he's not heading into the chaos wastes for any reason regardless of how benevolent his stated intentions are and he's not a suspiciously perfect mirror to the character you've managed to not go chaos.*
Like in this hypothetical controlling Van Horstman quest to me the idea that Mathilde is the prodigal collegiate member that ends up going evil would almost be too telegraphed, especially with the QM being able to drop hints like an odd degree of knowledge on the inner workings of Dhar
. Them going bad would be about as equally bad, in fact Mathilde might even be worse, as a Grey she wouldn't be releasing a single chaos Dragon she could screw over/corrupt the Empire's intelligence apparatus for generations.*It is kinda everywhere beyond simply just being opposite winds, physically they're also opposites to seemingly their preferred modus Operandi, with Horstman having his choir and Mathilde being super sneaky solo badass stuff.
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Asheram
Not quite altogether
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- Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground
Conserving energy. The more he moves, the more he has to eat.
Also, wouldn't be surprised if Asarnil charges by minutes of airtime he has to perform.
consequences
Not A Nice Person At All
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- Jerkville
[X] Lead the Wizards, Knightly Orders, and Asarnil
Let's just nip any potential issues with 'which knightly order gets to tell the other what to do' in the bud.
Let's just nip any potential issues with 'which knightly order gets to tell the other what to do' in the bud.
No. Just because Elves have a natural affinity for magic doesn't mean that every Elf has actively cultivated it.
Why do cats sit on roombas?
Asarnil doesn't seem like a Shyish guy, that lore seems to require at least a little bit of aknowledging the mortality of all things, oneself included and I'm pretty sure Asarnil does not have the word "humble" in his dictonary.
If he knows spells at all, I suspect he'd be an Aqshy kind of guy.
- Location
- Texas
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Lead the Wizards and Asarnil
Ice witch's have a reputation for being touchy.
- Location
- Somewhere in the area
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
[X] Lead the Wizards, Knightly Orders, and Asarnil
WinterLantern
Smoked bird
- Location
- North England
[X] Lead only the Wizards
Ekzentric Lohner
I miss Wildstar...
Hmm. Is there a way to specify that being in charge of Asarnil is only if he agrees it's a good idea? On the one hand, he's a (very) grown up who can competently represent himself (and might take offense if Mathilde just appoints herself as his boss). On the other hand, he's a (very) grown up who could appreciate the value of having a dwarf-friend go-between to make this job easier if she offers the option.
[X] Lead the Wizards and Asarnil
There's a lot at stake and it's Mathilde's responsibility to do everything she can to make sure the Expedition is a success. Part of that is making decisions like this, and passing the buck on them is an abrogation of that responsibility. Besides, Asarnil's a mercenary, he won't take offence to being told who his point of contact is.