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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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SuperSonicSound said:
QM literally just told us that only the whim of the dice precluded us from assassinating military leadership in which case a better sword would have been useful.
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That's more of an argument against your position than in favor.

You're talking about 1 opportunity out of a list of opportunities, a list which only exists because of a crit, and on one specific action.
It's a very niche thing.
 
ctulhuslp said:
That's quitter's talk.
Substance of Shadow can render items weightless and immaterial, after all. Now, it has plenty of limits, but we can probably still work with it.
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Obvious solution: spend 25 favor to get Kragg's rune on a repeating hand crossbow :V
10ebbor10 said:
Why would it not stack with the belt?

If it's some kind of interference, then shouldn't the sword interfere too?
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No, because the issue is magics mixing (and making Dhar). The Seed is inside us, and the Belt projects a field around is, so they don't interfere. But they also prevent us from adding on any other effects, because stacking would just make Dhar that would immediately get burned off by the belt, and end the enchantment in the process.
 
noliar said:
In pure melee...
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Shaman was a dispel, Boar Boy Boss was already downed, we fought only his bodyguards, essentially. Killed far less mooks than we could have. We also gain a disproportionate amount of rep from open combat due to dorfs liking their open combat song-worthy deeds; much more impressive stuff we did later was far less favour efficient.

That said, yeah, alright. East Gates were far less bad than I remember. I mostly recall bad rolls and flailing around not doing anything of particular significance for some reason.
 
Looking at the spiders I think an alliance is the best option. After that we could help them relocate somewhere nearby and trade some livestock for silk.

I doubt full scale integration could work.
 
BungieONI said:
Now someone please let me know if Boney has commented on the communication thing, I'm still catching up on the thread.
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He has. It would cost about 3 favors to get a talisman that had "Talk to Beasts" on it, unless Belegar arranged something with the Colleges. Additionally, it seems that it might be possible to teach them how to write and understand writing, which would be another means of communicating with them but would take a whole lot more work.

To be fair, he hasn't explicitly stated that it would take more work, to my knowledge, but I kind of figured that it would be implied. Arranging and teaching a non-magical means of communication will take a lot more work than a simple request from the Colleges.
 
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10ebbor10 said:
That's more of an argument against your position than in favor.

You're talking about 1 opportunity out of a list of opportunities, a list which only exists because of a crit, and on one specific action.
It's a very niche thing.
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If Mathilde has a super weapon, there's a much wider range of things she can assassinate, so they options are more likely to be available.

Also, that feels like shifting the goalposts when the original claim was that we wouldn't have the opportunity to use the sword in regular campaign turns, and an opportunity to do so was pointed out in return.
 
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a welcome addition to the multispecies community of Karak Eight Peaks.
[X] [ARMOUR] It should be returned to the Hold it was stolen from, to build strong ties among the Karaz Ankor.
[X] [UNDUMGI] Soizic, Bretonnian Questing Knight
 
NSMS said:
Cool, so second secret can be used safely.

Well. Sort of. So long as we have an explanation ready for how we knew how to do that-

-why hello there, magic coin of deceitfulness! So nice to see you!
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"It definitely wasn't because I read the Liber Mortis."
"Hm. That checks out."
"What's the Liber Mortis, anyway?"
"I dunno, some manling thing."
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Thorek: "HAHAHAHAHA!!! And people say you have no sense of humour, Kragg old pal!"
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Kragg: /Kraggface

Kraggface, of course, is like Stoneface, but moreso.
BoneyM said:
No. But isn't immersion its own reward?
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We have failed you, Mathilde.
 
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spiritualatheist said:
No, because the issue is magics mixing (and making Dhar). The Seed is inside us, and the Belt projects a field around is, so they don't interfere. But they also prevent us from adding on any other effects, because stacking would just make Dhar that would immediately get burned off by the belt, and end the enchantment in the process.
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Okay, back to my other, old idea.

A magic protection collar for Wolf.
 
It is literally impossible for me to catch up with this thread. Every time I move to a new page, there is a new page to keep the amount I'm behind by the same. Sometimes there are two new pages. I can only shout into the future and hope that nothing has made my words irrelevant by the time they become the present (when I read up to them).

At the point I'm at in the past there is a pointless circular argument about swords going on, which I will ignore. Hopefully the present will be better.
 
spiritualatheist said:
No, because the issue is magics mixing (and making Dhar). The Seed is inside us, and the Belt projects a field around is, so they don't interfere. But they also prevent us from adding on any other effects, because stacking would just make Dhar that would immediately get burned off by the belt, and end the enchantment in the process.
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The Belt doesn't do Dhar.

Dhar comes from color magics touching each other; the seed is dormant until used, and the torc would have set it above our head, but our Aethyric armor spell covers us in a pall of Ulgu, and any magic items touching it would have created interference. The belt in fact slightly increases our cap by burning off stray shreds of dhar at lower levels, although if it did any more of this the magic items it effected would cease functioning as effectively.
 
@BoneyM with us having an official position now, how will that affect dwarven rep gain? Like, there was discussion a few pages ago over if either or both of the armor find and the spider solution would garner rep; i've been assuming the armor would give a point or two of rep (depending on what it gets used for, maybe no points if some of its metal does get used for a 25 favor sword commission) since its not directly from our job, but the spider solution wouldn't since its 'just' our job, and wasn't an amazing over-success, 'just' a good success. Is that about accurate?
 
Say @BoneyM for the spiders could a Trade alliance work? Like we make an agreement to give them goblin/skaven corpses (not like there is going to be a shortage of those anytime soon) and in exchange they give us Silk and Venom?
 
Alratan said:
If Mathilde has a super weapon, there's a much wider range of things she can assassinate, so they options are more likely to be available.

Also, that feels like shifting the goalposts when the original claim was that we wouldn't have the opportunity to use the sword in regular campaign turns, and an opportunity to do so was pointed out in return.
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My original point was that it could only be used very rarely. You'll note I pointed out that it could be useful on critfails, for example.
 
DarkLight140 said:
It is literally impossible for me to catch up with this thread. Every time I move to a new page, there is a new page to keep the amount I'm behind by the same. Sometimes there are two new pages. I can only shout into the future and hope that nothing has made my words irrelevant by the time they become the present (when I read up to them).

At the point I'm at in the past there is a pointless circular argument about swords going on, which I will ignore. Hopefully the present will be better.
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Don't worry, now we're acknowledging what's really important: harlequin romance novels.
 
Abby Normal said:
@BoneyM with us having an official position now, how will that affect dwarven rep gain? Like, there was discussion a few pages ago over if either or both of the armor find and the spider solution would garner rep; i've been assuming the armor would give a point or two of rep (depending on what it gets used for, maybe no points if some of its metal does get used for a 25 favor sword commission) since its not directly from our job, but the spider solution wouldn't since its 'just' our job, and wasn't an amazing over-success, 'just' a good success. Is that about accurate?
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I'm still thinking about that. You'll find out my eventual decision next update.

Sinsystems said:
Say @BoneyM for the spiders could a Trade alliance work? Like we make an agreement to give them goblin/skaven corpses (not like there is going to be a shortage of those anytime soon) and in exchange they give us Silk and Venom?
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It would take time and exposure for them to understand the concept of trade.

Valarauko said:
So ranged weapons can be runed. What options exist there?
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Crossbow runes exist. They're like bolt thrower runes except smaller. Hit harder, more accurate, more reliable, burning bolts.
 
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