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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[X] The death of the Warboss and the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol.
[X] Taking Kvinn-Wyr would mean we have every Karag flanking the Eastern Valley.

Why stop now?

[X] Write-in: Leave her a note someplace conspicuous (to her) to either obey her commanding officer or hide her involvement better. This half-hearted middle-ground is a bad mix. You'll lecture her later, when it's more convenient.
 
[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol, and the weakening of Mork.
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.

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adaer said:
Embezzling from the elector count we were serving probably qualifies. Not immediately destroying/surrendering The Book probably does as well. Working for the conspiracy early on was technically us following the commands of our immediate superior, but was definitely worse than what Panoramia did just now.
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All sort of fits, but not in the context of "charged into glorious battle despite being ordered not to." Mostly corruption, not somewhat foolhardy bravery.
 
[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol
[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol, and the weakening of Mork.
Let's not talk about Ranald, key? That's a no-no.

[X] Visit her when she is on her lonesome and ask her how her rest was? Give her a chance to explain herself. Educate her on the topic of how the dwarfs might respond to knowing you have a young-ling Wizard who doesn't understand or respect the chain of command. And that what she does reflects not only on herself, her college and us, but on the Empire and humans as a whole.
-[X] But do praise her initiative. That she could judge how close to the edge she was. She exceeded your expectations. You did not think she had so much mortal and magical endurance. You will certainly take that into consideration for future plans and be sure to assign her more difficult tasks. How did fighting after casting all night and on no sleep go? On that topic, how does she feel about miscasts and was there any trouble during the battle?

When a subordinate breaks orders to go above and beyond, the only real option is to let them come forward, discuss the risks, and punish them by promising them that now you expect that above and beyond to be their standard. That way, they can only blame themselves.

[X] While the orc threat seems to be well in hand, you'd feel a lot better if you had more information about the tunnels and the scope of the Skaven threat. And some idea how to deal with a mountain full of trolls.
 
[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol, and the weakening of Mork.

[X] She disobeyed a superior Wizard and her commanding officer. Lecture her harshly but inflict no punishment.

[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.

[X] Write-in: Leave her a note someplace conspicuous (to her) to either obey her commanding officer or hide her involvement better. This half-hearted middle-ground is a bad mix. You'll lecture her later, when it's more convenient.
 
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[X] The death of the Warboss and the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
[X] She disobeyed a superior Wizard and her commanding officer. Lecture her harshly but inflict no punishment.

She's a junior officer who disobeyed orders during battle. Good intentions or not, good result or not, that doesn't get an understanding lecture. That gets a strip torn out of your hide if you're lucky.

If we're not actually her commanding officer, then I don't understand why we've been given the option to give her orders.
 
[X] The death of the Warboss and the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.

That we were considering doing it doesn't change the fact we didn't, and with a decisive lead in votes. Moreover, this isn't just doing battle with magic while exhausted, it's disobeying a superior officer.
 
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[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
[X] The death of the Warboss and the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol.
 
Guile said:
How would we kill a million orcs in the Citadel?

Slowly, carefully and very, very thoroughly.
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Orcs don't regenerate, aren't physically strong enough to make Dwarf armor a liability, lack acidic bile that does the same, and aren't Monstrous Infantry. They've also had their numbers greatly thinned, which the Trolls haven't.
 
Hmm. I think the best choice is either leave out the detail about Mork getting weakened (because a wise thief knows you never brag about a big score) or making sure we mention Ranald (because some heists are so legendary that the story has to be told, nevermind the first rule). Taking credit for another's score is right out.

Question for @BoneyM. If we tell everyone about Ranald's involvement will we preface it with leaning over a mug of ale, looking both ways as if to make sure nobody is listening and telling the gathered persons that 'you didn't hear it from me but...' or will it be a more academic report of the situation. Honest question.
 
[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol.
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility
 
[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol, and the weakening of Mork.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
[X] Write-in: Leave her a note someplace conspicuous (to her) to either obey her commanding officer or hide her involvement better. This half-hearted middle-ground is a bad mix. You'll lecture her later, when it's more convenient.
 
[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol, and the weakening of Mork.
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
 
EVA-Saiyajin said:
How does one even explain the weakening of Mork absent Ranald's part without outright lying?

Nevermind unless for some reason it the Council of War counts as a normal turn and what we did counts as defending everyone (which is one hell of a long shot), there's no way for us to prove anything...though Kragg MIGHT be able to, if he knows what he's looking for, examine the area to find out, but that's more trouble then it's worth.
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we just say "I used Ulgu to divert the Mork Energies involved elsewhere"

[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol, and the weakening of Mork.
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
 
[ ] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol, and the weakening of Mork.
[ ] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.

I'm leaning towards these two options. No need to mention Ranald, and while unhappy that Pan didn't follow our instructions, she is not formally under our command. I'm not surprised she went off and joined the battle.

As for if we are done? I honestly don't know. Kvinn-Wyr is the one with all the trolls right? I really don't want to go there right now. Either of the Citadel options would work for me. Can we talk with Belegar first? I'm curious if he considers the reclamation 'done'.
 
There's also the issue of telling them we'd been a conduit for Waaagh energies. I don't want Kragg to march up to us and start poking and prodding...the idea of him marching at us period is terrifying enough.
 
That fight went near perfectly. Sure the orks got a nat 100 for cohesion, but honestly, that just meant they fed more orks into the grinder. The mercs rolling so well that they held is more or less why that went so well for us. Sure I suspect they are now fairly mauled, but they were always here as the campaigns crumple zone.

we just killed most of the orks in the citadel and the nearby settlement, and another throng is on its way as reinforcements. things are going very well for this campaign so far.
 
[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.

If in a possible future Belegar could hold the citadel with 500 dwarfs we can hold it with a lot more. The Goblins and orcs are severely weakened. Lets teach the orcs to fear the blitzkrieg!
 
Can we absolutely prove Mork was weakened? No.

Can we present a strong case and prefix it with a "in my opinion"? Oh yes.

"I'm pretty sure he isn't getting all the power he invested back, and considering how greenskins started streaming out of everywhere the exact moment I was done, and he was smashing his own people in frustration, I think I'm right."
BoneyM said:
The Colleges only new the very basics of what an Anvil of Doom was capable of, and now you get to see it for yourself, as conducted by the oldest and most powerful of Runelords.
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New -> knew.
BoneyM said:
Flight would be Lore of Heavens, or starting with the battle magic Steed of Shadows.
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Is Shadow!Kittybird more in the Fiendishly Complex wheelhouse?
 
[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol, and the weakening of Mork.
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.

They had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
I was expecting some uber Warlord to come out of the citadel, but luckily he burned out before he could reach whatever potential he had.
 
[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol, and the weakening of Mork.
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.

Can't we just use the coin we got from Ranald to prepare lies as an alibi?
- The Deceiver: Lies you have developed beforehand will be delivered perfectly. The listener may believe you to be mistaken, but they will never believe that you are lying. Cannot be used to tell truths.
 
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[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.

Hm. Well Panoramia is a Mathilde fangirl so a harsh lecture would be kinda kicking a puppy, and likely unnecessary as the important point is to emphasize how casting while tired can harm the very people you're trying to protect through a miscast.

Also only mentioning the shattering of the Idol keeps everything nice, and mysterious as is proper for a Magister of the Grey.
 
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