Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

ctulhuslp · Sep 20, 2019

[X] Keep to the original plan. Find the invasion force and join them as they fight their way through Karag Nar.

I doubt that informing people of the exact details would alter the battleplan to any degree.
Just stick to the plan, prepare the fortified position they can fall back to. Especially since we are so exhausted.

Katahiraga · Sep 20, 2019

Still shouldn't the rangers be able to take Karag But without Mathildes help, and why should Mathilde choose to sit out the critically important battlefield where her fellow stirlanders are at the most danger and when they need her more than ever, tired or not, besides don't the dwarves or journeymen have some sort of potion or magic that gives Mathilde a emergency boost for a emergency situation?

NibblyGribbly · Sep 20, 2019

[X] Keep to the original plan. Find the invasion force and join them as they fight their way through Karag Nar.

Alratan · Sep 20, 2019

Katahiraga said:
Still shouldn't the rangers be able to take Karag But without Mathildes help, and why should Mathilde choose to sit out the critically important battlefield where her fellow stirlanders are at the most danger and when they need her more than ever, tired or not, besides don't the dwarves or journeymen have some sort of potion or magic that gives Mathilde a emergency boost for a emergency situation?

Trying to use more magic to get over the exhaustion from channeling too much magic seems like a poor idea.

ctulhuslp · Sep 20, 2019

Katahiraga said:
Still shouldn't the rangers be able to take Karag But without Mathildes help, and why should Mathilde choose to sit out the critically important battlefield where her fellow stirlanders are at the most danger and when they need her more than ever, tired or not, besides don't the dwarves or journeymen have some sort of potion or magic that gives Mathilde a emergency boost for a emergency situation?

Dwarves are way more fellow to her than vast majority of humans, especially prejudiced stirlanders, at this point.

And miscasting magic may well make us a liability and not an asset. Warp Perils are scary yo.

Alratan · Sep 20, 2019

I do think that the best Mathilde can do is sit tight. She's exhausted, and an exhausted wizard is a liability.

Mathilde has also done a lot. She's decapitated the orcs of Karag Nar. Their warboss-shaman is dead, and his closest lieutenants have probably gone with him.

If we're extra lucky the orcs of Karag Nar will be trying to sally out to the battle at the Citadel right now, abandoning their defences to charge right into the Expedition's prepared lines.

ctulhuslp · Sep 20, 2019

Alratan said:
I do think that the best Mathilde can do is sit tight. She's exhausted, and an exhausted wizard is a liability.

Mathilde has also done a lot. She's decapitated the orcs of Karag Nar. Their warboss-shaman is dead, and his closest lieutenants have probably gone with him.

If we're extra lucky the orcs of Karag Nar will be trying to sally out to the battle at the Citadel right now, abandoning their defences to charge right into the Expedition's prepared lines.

She can still decapitate some Orks I guess lol.
She is a decent enough fighter even without too much magic.

Noname1 · Sep 20, 2019

[X] Keep to the original plan. Find the invasion force and join them as they fight their way through Karag Nar.

Sinsystems · Sep 20, 2019

ctulhuslp said:
She can still decapitate some Orks I guess lol.
She is a decent enough fighter even without too much magic.

Plus we could hit the enemy defenses from behind while they are concerned about the angry dwarves in front of them.

Qazplm · Sep 20, 2019

[X] This wealth is the future of Karak Eight Peaks. Stay here with the Hoard.

Alratan · Sep 20, 2019

ctulhuslp said:
She can still decapitate some Orks I guess lol.
She is a decent enough fighter even without too much magic.

She's physically exhausted as well though, not just magically.

Humbaba · Sep 20, 2019

jjffjhjf said:
Tired as she is, she can't help out much. Continuing the current plan lets the dwarfs get a stable position behind them, which is exactly what dwarfs like best when fighting. Probably the best we can really do for right now.

Yes she can.

BoneyM said:
Torc of Fire: A reward from the Bright College, it inspires allies and intimidates enemies when activated. Lasts a few minutes, requires fire to recharge

If literally all she does is turn up and use the torc a single time before retreating that is a pretty useful contribution to the battle. And it's an item so we have no risk of miscasting due to exhaustion.

Alratan · Sep 20, 2019

Humbaba said:
Yes she can.

If literally all she does is turn up and use the torc a single time before retreating that is a pretty useful contribution to the battle. And it's an item so we have no risk of miscasting due to exhaustion.

She should really have leant the Torc to someone else before the battle.

Captain Spatula · Sep 20, 2019

SuperSonicSound said:
Unrelated to the current strain of thought but we're probably going to want to research ritual magic both of Ulgu and other winds of magic (which would definitely draw some attention) if we want to make use of the snake juice. Having bottled high magic already stable means really only need to find the current patterns to pour the magic into ahead of time as we don't need to channel any of it ourselves. So ritual enhanced enchanting or rune worked high magic is theoretically possible for Mathilde with the snake juice.

My memory is coming up short here, but runesmithing is declining both because of the lost holds and because magic is more 'stable' now right? Like, way back when all the bigger works were made there was magic storms when they were runesmithed? Like the count weapons.

Now the main question, if the dwarves had access to the snake juice would that go a ways to alleviating limited magic? Liquid high magic seems like something that would/should go a good way to making some really good runesmithed items.

veekie · Sep 20, 2019

Humbaba said:
If literally all she does is turn up and use the torc a single time before retreating that is a pretty useful contribution to the battle. And it's an item so we have no risk of miscasting due to exhaustion.

She was half dead just going up the stairs because she had to refresh the armor spell just to climb

Alratan · Sep 20, 2019

Captain Spatula said:
Now the main question, if the dwarves had access to the snake juice would that go a ways to alleviating limited magic? Liquid high magic seems like something that would/should go a good way to making some really good runesmithed items.

Now we just need a radical Runelord willing to experiment...

Instead, we have Kragg the Grim.

Captain Spatula · Sep 20, 2019

Alratan said:
She's physically exhausted as well though, not just magically.

veekie said:
She was half dead just going up the stairs because she had to refresh the armor spell just to climb

If she can cast her armour spell before going off to fight she wouldn't feel the physical exhaustion anymore. It's a decently large if to be fair, but it's an option.

SuperSonicSound · Sep 20, 2019

Mathilde isn't just physically tired, her literal soul is tired and rubbed raw. Sending her into battle right now is probably a terrible idea.

Alratan · Sep 20, 2019

Captain Spatula said:
If she can cast her armour spell before going off to fight she wouldn't feel the physical exhaustion anymore. It's a decently large if to be fair, but it's an option.

Her mastered Aethyric Armour seems like it would stop her becoming more tired, but doesn't seem to remove exhaustion already present.

Zero Gravitas · Sep 20, 2019

[X] Keep to the original plan. Find the invasion force and join them as they fight their way through Karag Nar.

Smg1223 said:
Ha that was fucking awesome. I only wish we rolled a 5 instead.

I wonder what rolling a 6 would have done considering higher meant better outcomes. Probably something pretty significant?

Akasha · Sep 20, 2019

[X] Keep to the original plan. Find the invasion force and join them as they fight their way through Karag Nar.

NukeDaSun · Sep 20, 2019

[x] This wealth is the future of Karak Eight Peaks. Stay here with the Hoard

noliar · Sep 20, 2019

The caldera greenskins have long way to come through a thunderstorm. The battle for this mountain is happening now. Win it and they'll have to siege a Karak from the surface rather than swarm us in a field battle. That'll give us plenty of time to rest then contribute.

Deathbybunnies · Sep 20, 2019

Katahiraga said:
Still shouldn't the rangers be able to take Karag But without Mathildes help, and why should Mathilde choose to sit out the critically important battlefield where her fellow stirlanders are at the most danger and when they need her more than ever, tired or not, besides don't the dwarves or journeymen have some sort of potion or magic that gives Mathilde a emergency boost for a emergency situation?

She will be of more help clearing out Karag Nar with the dwarves so the others can retreat into the fortified Karags as planned, than running off to help with the explicitly defensive action that will be forced to continue until Karag Nar is cleared anyway. And that's before considering her current exhaustion.

Alliterate · Sep 20, 2019

Captain Spatula said:
If she can cast her armour spell before going off to fight she wouldn't feel the physical exhaustion anymore. It's a decently large if to be fair, but it's an option.

BoneyM said:
If it weren't for Aethyric Armour preventing your muscles from aching worse than they already did, you reflect as you make your way up an mountain-length staircase, you'd probably leave the riches to their fate.

Mathilde is already exhausted, physically.
Aethyric Armour doesn't appear to remove existing exhaustion and muscle ache, just prevent more accumulating while it's active.

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