1842 Newspaper
Mmmm. That mention of the Qeshyks actually has me wondering what the worlds opinions on them are.
What more do you want from Hex? Khem already took all their holdings in north Africa.
No. We are in a wierd 7 sided mess of a war. We should stay out of the four sided mess of "Everyone invade Hes" until it is time to jointly invade with Khem.
I wonder if we should try to avoid war for the. next few turns.
Our armies are doing pretty well and all, but we have kinda been stumbling from one war to another for much of the quest now. I'm afraid that at some point war weariness could set in among our people. Or that all that focus on the army could lead to the military influencing the government (sorta like what happened in Imperial Germany or Japan)
Wars that the DC fought in:
Not real wars
- 1805-1806 - War of the Second Coalition - Defeat
- 1817-1819 - Third Coalition War - Victory
- 1821-1824 - Monsoon War - Victory
- 1832-1833 - Ochruhr War - Victory
- 1833 - Ymaryn-Nohonese War - Status Quo
- 1833-1834 - Opium War - Victory
- 1835-1839 - Nohonese-Hung Crisis - Strategic tie? Defeat? Won a port in Not!Saigon.
- 1840 - Sffyrn Revolutionary War
With the amount of wars we fought, we probably are the most experienced army of the 19th century. This is despite us being a diplomatic power.
- 1836 - Black Sheep Policing Action
Combine that reputation as free riding horse lords of the wild east with their six shooter pistols we're supplying them with and their probably legendary military reputation and it won't be Cowboys and Indians, but Qeshyks and Samurai who dominate the popular media instead.
On the Nohonese-Hung crisis, for us it was a victory, we seized land from Nohon and a port in Hung as well, it was a Hung defeat, not a Ymar defeat.The year that we got screwed. Luckily, most people are not keen on invading everyone.
Why would we invade Hes?
We're winning this war, so no war weariness this time.
11 years gap between the Second and Third Coalition War. Two years gap until a concon blowups gave us excuse to fight the Vortuga.
Finally, eight years later, we went to war with Ochruhr, and we been fighting wars non-stop ever since.
Fixed that for you
Not quite, Vortuga is fighting Hes and Ochruhr has peaced out with what's left of Etal to focus on us. I don't think Ochruhr is being fought by anywhere near that many people, we're the only ones in shape to fight two wars right now.Current Wars:
VS SKF: Sketch, DM, Hes, Styrnyr, Kielmar?, Behryvar (Formerly), possibly Papal Etal, Vortuga, and Khemetri but with low war score.
VS Ochruhr: DM, Styrmyr, Papal Etal, Hes?, Behryvar (Formerly), possibly Sketch, Kielmyr, Vortuga, and Khemetri but with low war score.
VS Hes: SKF, Ochruhr?, Khemetri (Colonial war)
Those are the big ones, right? Are Hes and Ochruhr at war? Have the non-bordering nations ceremonially declared war?
Huh. So we do. I was sure there wasn't a gap. Teaches me to go by memory.?
We share a border with Tortun so any expansions there will be contiguous.
Huh. So we do. I was sure there wasn't a gap. Teaches me to go by memory.
Still the point about it being ethically distinct and nationalist stands - as we lack the Federation's unifying cause - and there are limits to how deeply we can loot without causing generational grudges. Even if we're winning, pushing hard costs lives and resources. Behyvar and slow down still puts us at the top of the table for deciding post war settlement, there's no extra prizes for saving our rivals effort.
Remember we have another war still on in Syffryn, there's a war we'd like to resume in the east where we can keep what we take, and we need to push development and technology. All these things take resources too.
Courting them diplomatically does require the ability to actually provide significant resistance. Diplomatic fictions leverages real scenarios.Courting those colonies with diplomacy is not the same as going to war with Sketch. No doubt there will be dirty tricks but they aren't going to escalate to war when we and our allies have substantial Kus Ocean naval assets and can threaten their Kus holdings by land. Especially if we don't annex those colonies but merely prop them up for basing rights what's more likely is they sphere/grab some and we sphere others.
Hence our distraction fighting two different wars let them buy some time. Our full undivided attention would have just gone through like a freight trainMore like they used fanatics to buy time with lives, until the number disparity became too much and they started to crumble.
A - lolCome what may I want the Saffron states to pay us significant concessions in trade and tech for saving all their asses.
A - because they will be grateful for our timely intervention.
B - They will be properly terrified of our armies who just crushed TWO armies each big enougj to stop them.
Not that bad.My chief concern here would be the logistical implications of trying to make this switch in the middle of the war.
Certainly desirable yes, we'd want to keep the port we got.We really should consider beelining ironclads ourselves.
We have a slot in military academy open next turn, and we also can build a second military academy.
We should be able at least to research ironclads simultaneously with Nohon, if probably not with the Sketch. We really do not want to lead a war with ironclad armed Nohon otherwise.
Hardly. We're going to need to beat them all up enough to show that the Dual Crown means it, which means actually threatening their respective administrations.Once we've regained Behyvar from the Federation, we've basically achieved our strategic goals for that war - our regional clients and allies have their territories, we have prestige and the Federation is wounded severely enough that other powers can finish it off if they commit. We must not do their work for them. I'm not saying we should peace out but we should halt offensive operations until the Sketch have poured out their share of blood and treasure. Then join in again at the very end to snipe more of the spoils.
OTOH the Ochruhr seem content to stop expanding - it might be worth setting them some terms.
What more do you want from Hex? Khem already took all their holdings in north Africa.
Khem don't want or need more Hes land. They got all the Not!African stuff, so Hes can't stage an invasion anymore.Well if the Khem decide to move their party you KNOW we have zero ability to turn down a dance.
Khemetri's entire casus belli is reconquista.Well if the Khem decide to move their party you KNOW we have zero ability to turn down a dance.
They've only taken the Hespranxer's northern Africa holdings, not their colony on the gold coast, nor the islands near south Africa. They lack the navy to claim either of those locations though.Khem don't want or need more Hes land. They got all the Not!African stuff, so Hes can't stage an invasion anymore.
That'll likely end in tears. If I recall things correctly, social customs and culture (among else a heavy resistance to wage earning) in sub-saharan Africa didn't mesh well with modern ideas.
In truth the Khemetri have never cared for Greater Khem, what with that basically denoting all of Africa. I doubt they'll try to conquer a lot of it, maybe some choice bits in the nearby area and certainly anything the Syffrynites try to claim that looks interesting to them, but not much more.Khemetri's entire casus belli is reconquista.
After they're done taking their stuff back from Vortuga and Hespranxer they'd fortify to prevent another landing(star forts ho) then look south to reconquer Greater Khemetri.
Maybe they have a greater them ambition like we have a kyberia ambition.In truth the Khemetri have never cared for Greater Khem, what with that basically denoting all of Africa. I doubt they'll try to conquer a lot of it, maybe some choice bits in the nearby area and certainly anything the Syffrynites try to claim that looks interesting to them, but not much more.
Just because they're a significant power on the continent doesn't mean that the Khem have, nor should have, dibs on the entire continent.They've only taken the Hespranxer's northern Africa holdings, not their colony on the gold coast, nor the islands near south Africa. They lack the navy to claim either of those locations though.
I don't think we know, but chances are the Vortuga and Hex didn't treat the locals so well so I'm not overly worried.Do we even know when the Khem lost those north African territories to the Vortuga and Hex? Depending on how well they were integrated, the reconquest alone might stirr up enough trouble.
Just because they're a significant power on the continent doesn't mean that the Khem have, nor should have, dibs on the entire continent.
among else a heavy resistance to wage earning) in sub-saharan Africa didn't mesh well with modern ideas.
Unfortunately, even if they lack the moral right (and even though it is almost certainly against our Geo-political interests) to unify the continent, that doesn't mean that they don't have ambitions to do so. We are about to enter the age of imperialism, and they are one of the major world powers.Do we even know when the Khem lost those north African territories to the Vortuga and Hex? Depending on how well they were integrated, the reconquest alone might stirr up enough trouble.
Just because they're a significant power on the continent doesn't mean that the Khem have, nor should have, dibs on the entire continent.