Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

Dammit, Ling Qi, doors exist for a reason! :p
Ling Qi: Yes ? They do look pretty.

Hmm~ If they were Liu minions rather than just loan sharks, then CRX's assistance may have been more useful than we otherwise thought. Even if the Imperial Bureaucracy is supposed to be impartial, a clan like the Liu can probably apply more pressure than a newbie cultivator, no matter how skilled. But with CRX doing the letter equivalent of coughing meaningfully in their direction...
It does add a layer to the discussion we had with CRX a bit ago, where she was a bit worried on our "past grievances". And what we felt about Nobles...
 
I don't get what you're missing?
154(FVM6) + 180(FSS3) + 99 (PLR2) + 228(SCS6) + 192(TRF5) + 240(AM5) are immediately trainable at this moment.
AE3 and AC4 don't contribute, but AE4 and AC5 afterwards (estimated 200 and 240) do and are apparently not too difficult to achieve with some slack room?

All of that adds to 1533 ~ 153 plus the 30 we already have.
Ah I was misreading your Argent Current stuff. Mah bad.
 
We'll see. If the argent arts give xp on their interim levels we can get to 158 xp or just AM5 will put us at 144 xp. 54 combat exp would be a bit of a trek. 42 is more doable in my estimation.
I think there should be a way to train Domain weapons directly without having it ride piggyback upon Arts or Combat. Maybe there's even Arts tailored specifically for Flying Swords. Of course that would cost Major actions to train...
Maybe we can find out how to do so by:
  • Asking Meizhen
  • Looking it up in the Library
  • Asking a Tutor (preferably a Elder)
 
We'll see. If the argent arts give xp on their interim levels we can get to 158 xp or just AM5 will put us at 144 xp. 54 combat exp would be a bit of a trek. 42 is more doable in my estimation.

On the surface it does seem Appraisal might be easier than Domain 1. My personal intuition is that trying to get Appraisal precludes getting Domain 1 and that it is possible to get Domain 1 if we drop Appraisal. And if we can't get Domain 1, we stand very little chance against the Monsters because they will be able to beat us down with their poorly contested Domain Weapons, Appraisal or not. Domain 0 makes us about evenwith our peers I would expect. Together this means to me that Domain 1 is much more valuable to me than Appraisal.

But this is a discussion for another time, as I don't feel comfortable continuing it without more math in hand.
We don't have any pure domain training actions, effort to train domain is included in our green arts, so we get 0 more there. At best we can go seeking fights, but our only semi-reliable method of doing that is do more missions, and we were already planning 1/week. I simply don't see Domain 1 as being negatively affected by going after Appraisal. At most we lost 1-2 actions from the single art we might have to drop (and can still train halfway), but we weren't going to be able to achieve Domain 1 without yrs spoon-feeding us surprise combat anyway.
 
I don't get what you're missing?
154(FVM6) + 180(FSS3) + 99 (PLR2) + 228(SCS6) + 192(TRF5) + 240(AM5) are immediately trainable at this moment.
AE3 and AC4 don't contribute, but AE4 and AC5 afterwards (estimated 200 and 240) do and are apparently not too difficult to achieve with some slack room?

All of that adds to 1533 ~ 153 plus the 30 we already have.
Actually we get a little less than that due to
Domain Xp from Arts gets rounded down : this week TRF training's 54 suxx "only" gave 5 domain xp, an almost 10% loss. That theorical total of 1533 would imo give something closer to 140xp.
Weekly Art Xp gain from the Vent, Grinning Moon and now Hidden Moon EPC bonuses. So about -300 theorical xp missing ? depends on how much Hidden Moon gives of course.
 
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We don't have any pure domain training actions, effort to train domain is included in our green arts, so we get 0 more there. At best we can go seeking fights, but our only semi-reliable method of doing that is do more missions, and we were already planning 1/week. I simply don't see Domain 1 as being negatively affected by going after Appraisal. At most we lost 1-2 actions from the single art we might have to drop (and can still train halfway), but we weren't going to be able to achieve Domain 1 without yrs spoon-feeding us surprise combat anyway.
Black Noise's Kitchen Sink plan gets us to ~180 domain xp with 5 slots dedicated to spirtual training. If those slots went to green arts (e.g. advancing FSS/PLR/FVM even if they aren't able to reach anther level, AE5, AS5) instead that's ~25 successes.

It's not that far away.
 
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We don't have any pure domain training actions, effort to train domain is included in our green arts, so we get 0 more there. At best we can go seeking fights, but our only semi-reliable method of doing that is do more missions, and we were already planning 1/week. I simply don't see Domain 1 as being negatively affected by going after Appraisal. At most we lost 1-2 actions from the single art we might have to drop (and can still train halfway), but we weren't going to be able to achieve Domain 1 without yrs spoon-feeding us surprise combat anyway.
We aren't going to cap ALL of our arts, I don't think. At the very least it should be impossible to max the argent arts in addition to everything else, so if necessary we could train more of those for domain progress.
 
It doesn't do that.

Argent arts are not green except for level 5.
We are getting at least 19-20 of those successes from Grinning Moon bonus, which doesn't give domain xp.
I took Argents not being green until 5 into account.
Did not take grinning moon, so -15 to -20.

So we end up with 160 + 25 if we do an art focus with 0 spiritual. That's still easily within reach.
 
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it was strange, none of the silly stories told to little girls were about a prodigal child coming to sweep one away. She thought she might prefer this though
Hey, Ling Qingge is outside of Liu-controlled territory. She can find new employment, now.

She also had her musical spirit complimented by a music-aligned Cyan spirit. If she put in the time and effort, it should be possible for Ling Qingge to compose a song encompassing her feelings and containing the story of a prodigal girl coming back to whisk away her mother to a life of luxury. With some assistance, perhaps the song could become popular enough it enters the province's zeitgeist, mortals passing it along to their children as a nursery rhyme.

Even touched by ice, they brought to mind another set. Her lips twisted into a scowl as she she retrieved everything she would need to prepare her tea.
Ah, this hurts me right in the feels. Ling Qi's best-liked features are also the parts of her Ling Qingge hates most. Ling Qi never knew -- I can't imagine she wouldn't have internalized it alongside her feelings about her skin, hair, and build, if she heard her mother disparage her eyes, too -- and the mismatch is just painful.

She could still recall the day that the duchess had come to Tonghou, when she was a young girl of six. She could remember huddling between her Mother and Father in the family compound, with the rest of the mortal members of the clan, and though she had never seen the Lady Cai, she could remember the terrible, crushing presence that had descended upon the upper ring of the city along with the rows of white helmed guards, and lingered there, oppressive and heavy, making it difficult to so much as breath.
Ah, so this should be the Cloud Peak guards Gan mentioned, which are also the guards protecting the White Room we're using. Not too surprising: the White Room is ridiculously valuable, and so should have the very best guarding it.

This is also the most explicit reference we have in the story itself about how higher-level cultivators are capable of deleteriously affecting lower-level people through their presence alone, isn't it? Gives another reason for the promotion of lower-level clans, as well as the efforts to maintain that status -- every lower-level servant is an intermediary for the high nobles, the loss of which also prevents the useful interaction with people too low on the totem pole.

Though, the most important thing I see. What the hell did the Liu do to warrant the personal visit by the Duchess?! They're just Viscounts; the natural course of action would be through their Count liege. Was it just a routine tour of her cities or was it an administrative correction?!?

Now whether they leave well enough alone or start sniffing at Sect business to find out what happened remains to be seen
I'm sure the Sect informed the Liu of the transport of a Sect-relevant person from their city. Even if they didn't, the Liu should be retaining records of everything and everyone that passes through their gates, which would heave the Sect-employed guardsmen informing the Liu that they were transporting Ling Qingge to the Argent Sect on the behalf of Lady Ling Qi. If they're a large noble clan, they should have sent scions into every Great Sect in their province, and every social noble in the Outer Sect should have heard of Ling Qi's acceptance of Cai's proposal, which should then tell them of what a bad idea pursuing this particular small grudge is.
 
Black Noise's Kitchen Sink plan gets us to ~180 domain xp with 5 slots dedicated to spirtual training. If those slots went to green arts (e.g. advancing FSS/PLR/FVM even if they aren't able to reach anther level, AE5, AS5) instead that's ~25 successes.

It's not that far away.
The problem is we'd need green arts to cultivate, and this plan already get us everything. So we'd need to get a new art, and then get it to level 2+ before getting domain XP. This probably means 2 actions for sect points, then 2/3 actions for art levelling before we get any domain XP.

So it ends up not actually losing any domain XP.

EDIT: Or am I wrong about BN's plan getting us everything?
 
The problem is we'd need green arts to cultivate, and this plan already get us everything. So we'd need to get a new art, and then get it to level 2+ before getting domain XP. This probably means 2 actions for sect points, then 2/3 actions for art levelling before we get any domain XP.

So it ends up not actually losing any domain XP.
Nope - we don't know where PLR/FVM/FSS actually are gated by, and AE5 and AS5 will be available.
 
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The problem is we'd need green arts to cultivate, and this plan already get us everything. So we'd need to get a new art, and then get it to level 2+ before getting domain XP. This probably means 2 actions for sect points, then 2/3 actions for art levelling before we get any domain XP.

So it ends up not actually losing any domain XP.

EDIT: Or am I wrong about BN's plan getting us everything?


it leaves AS5, technically
 
No? We don't know where PLR/FVM/FSS actually are gated by, and AE5 and AS5 will be available.
I had missed it not getting AS5.

However, as far as I can tell PLR/FVM/FSS/AE are all fully cultivated on BN's plan (or rather, they are cultivated to the limit of early green, and as we get to appraisal it opens up TRF6/FVM7/SCS7/PLR3/FSS4/AE5).
 
we get to appraisal it opens up TRF6/FVM7/SCS7/PLR3/FSS4/AE5
I'm not sure if that was stated anywhere or is it an assumption by more or less everyone, but potentially an issue. I thought AE5 would be definitely be free?
FSA+ with 1 archive option is also something that going art focus over spiritual would allow as much as that will apparently cause a thread descent into chaos (muhahaha).

But essentially - domain levelup isn't far way just like appraisal isn't far away as people think.
 
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BN's plan also doesn't have any drugs planned.

And there's an alternative plan where we can get Appraisal mostly out of putting grinning/hidden bonuses to Spiritual (with the exception of 1 to AE later on and 1 to SCS this week), reducing training actions to 3 spiritual, or even 2 actions if we swapped the last AE or SCS action. This has the advantage of moving PLR and SCS training to actions where we can domain experience for them, as well as potentially freeing more actions and allowing the failure mode simply being that we don't quite hit Appraisal rather than losing out on anything else.

I rather prefer this plan because it means we get the most Domain xp even if we get art-capped. It also back-loads spiritual cultivation actions so we can swap them quite easily.
 
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[X] Plan: Museic + Appraisal
-[X] Overflow to Spiritual, vent drip to AC, Moon successes to SCS
-[X] Buy/use stuff
--[X] Use two YSS, two virtual YSS
--[X] Heavy Rains Pill (15 RSS), 10 Dice Wood Pills (30 RSS), 5 Dice Water Pills (10 RSS), 5 Dice Darkness Pills (15 RSS)
--[X] Total: 70 RSS, 2 YSS
-[X] (MAJOR) Train Music arts with Zeqing
--[X] FSS
--[X] (attached minor) Zeqing wanted to speak with you about something aside from your lessons, indulge her?
-[X] (MAJOR) Train with Gu Xiulan
--[X] TRF
-[X] (MAJOR) Take a job
--[X] Haunted Mansion
-[X] (MAJOR) Cultivate in the White Room
--[X] Leg meridian
--[X] With Xiulan
-[X] (MAJOR) Visit the Archive
--[X] Look into the items you found during your quest
--[X] (attached minor) Meizhen has been withdrawing a bit again. See what you can do to talk her back out of her shell, and ask about what has been bothering her
-[X] (minor) Playing music with Sixiang was fun, even if you didn't get to do as much fun composing as you might have liked. See if the muse has any suggestions.
-[X] (minor) Zhengui did a good job, take him out on a hunting trip, and maybe start working on getting him ready to introduce to your family.
-[X] (minor) It's time for testing! You should work for some prototypes. Suyin has invited you to join her in her mentors workshop to do some more experimentation


This is just Plan Museic but keeping qi successes to spiritual. I think Appraisal is a lot easier than people have been fearmongering. A full auto against even the monsters is nothing to sneeze at, it's as good as an extra art level except we don't have any arts that would give such a level.


e: Also, if 1-2 extra qi was so important, then we should be doing the Week 50 Appraisal rush so we can do a 2GSS SLP week. Since we aren't doing that, it looks like we've decided 1-2 qi isn't going to matter. The overflow to qi isn't significant to our qi score but is significant to our spiritual cultivation.
 
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Edit: Hm, they might also try some less pleasant legal fuckery like claiming that since the father's ID can't be proven, Ling Qi would be a ward of the Lui/He family since she "obviously has noble blood as a cultivator", though that's just asking to get shut down.

Yeah, that's not happening.

"I lived freely for a few months," her Mother replied wistfully. "I made questionable choices… though I do not regret you Ling Qi, some of the decisions involved were not my best." She shook her head, her eyes dropping back to the tabletop. "I could escape notice forever though. My father expelled me from the family, in hopes of limiting the Liu's retaliation. He succeeded I suppose, the man who had wanted me was satisfied with ensuring that that the only occupation I could find was the one which he felt I deserved."

Qi-Mama got expelled from the family.

There's no connection between them any more legally or socially. Even if there were some twisty bullshit they could resort to, it would probably involve jumping through a fuck load of hoops and lots of bribery to get their foot in the door. Especially since this would be a super transparent attempt to snatch up a fully Third Realm cultivator with great potential.

Then they'd have to go through Cai.

Like, for them to try would require them to have the sort of brain power as the antagonist of a Lord Potter-Black-Gryffindor-Ravenclaw-Hufflepuff-Slytherin-Hogwarts-Azkaban fic and they'd get shut down just as hard.

In short, it's the set up to a joke, not an actual threat.
 
BN's plan also doesn't have any drugs planned.
Technically my plan has appropriate max pills for SLP weeks and 5 dice elemental pills for the rest (besides wood which gets 10), the plan doesn't cost over 800 rss in pills for nothing.

As for Domain, the xp we gets rounded down, so let's look at it this way:
- AC5, AM5: 4 actions each, 5-6xp/action
- FVM/FSS: 2 actions, 7-8xp/per, +1 FSS action next week
- SCS6: 3 actions, 5-6 per
- AE4: 3 actions, 6-7 per
- TRF5: 4 actions (including next week), 5-6xp per
- PLR2: 1 action, 5-6 xp

This totals at 133-158xp, depending on rolls, leaving us with 163-188xp total from arts before any training, combat or omake xp.

I'd say Domain 1 is doable, reasonable even compared to Appraisal, but dropping any Green arts besides PLR makes it iffy.

Oh and one last thing:
[X] Plan: Museic

Betrayal most fowl :drevil:
 
Whelp. We need an action to test QiMom and our little sister for talent. But this can likely wsit till after the tourney (unless getting them tested is just a minor) we also need a minor BEFORE the tourney asking crx if she has leftover trick arrows from the sun liling raid alternatively we need to look for better arrows on the market or place an order to reproduce the ones we have.
 
Was it just a routine tour of her cities or was it an administrative correction?!?

If it were an administrative correction by the duchess, well, we wouldn't have to take vengeance against the Lui. :V

It mean that they got some stuff from the duchess. One of Mama stalin apprentices might be a Liu or some shit like that.

So taking revenge against the whole clan is probably not viable. Urge to plant drugs and call the police on the young master rising.

[X] Plan: Museic + Appraisal

I have a dream. A dream of a world were people aren't judged for their boundless optimism toward cultivation success.
 
[X] Plan: Museic + Appraisal

Only been skimming the number crunching, but I don't really mind missing out on some Qi successes if some people think Appraisal's possible.
 
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