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SITB said:
FVM needs 225 sux, current level of FSS needs 100 sux and the next level would probably need 150~180 sux. The tournament starts at week 52 which means that Zeqing is only available for 11 actions. And in all probability FVM can probably be trained to another rank without Ling Qi needing to reach green 2.

I am extremely skeptical of the claim that FSS and FVM will reach their early green cap with only Zeqing tutoring.
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I have serious doubts that FVM will reach 7 at early green. That would basically imply it's not as good an art as we think it is. Even if it did, though, we'd still have the time to learn both FSS and FVM in the later weeks. If we were able to go for FVM7 and FSS4 then we would have to do some independent training, but that's fine, in the later weeks. I find it far more likely however that we will only be able to hit FVM6 and FSS3 at early green.

Arkeus said:
I guess you are assuming no training week 52?
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We've already confirmed no training in week 52.
 
Hmm, I'm not particularly attached to the Su Ling minor, it's not one I care about, so I'm not giving up anything, and I think this might be more interesting anyways. I think I'll switch.

[X] Plan Lunar Arts
 
At this point both Efficient Music and Lunar Arts are okay with me. I guess Lunar Arts is slightly better. What I really care about is not taking the Cai action. If she sends us a note asking for a meeting, fine. But no to being proactive and trying to be friends because that'll just cause more forum drama. As far as I'm concerned, the sect route seems to have the majority now so might as well act like it. So I'll switch votes depending on which plan gets traction.
 

Name
Current Status
Cultivation

Ling Qi
Early Green / Early Bronze

Zhengui
Early 2nd Realm (?)
Week 36 = Early 2nd Realm
Week 32 = Hibernation for breakthrough
Week 29 = Late 1st Realm
Week 26 = Mid 1st Realm
Week 22 = Born from egg

Bai Meizhen
? Green / ? Bronze
Week 21 = Breakthrough to Bronze
Week 19 = Breakthrough to Green

Cai Renxiang
? Green / ? Bronze
Week 29 = Early Bronze
Week 23 = Early Green

Sun Liling
? Green / ? Bronze
Week 32 = Early Green / Appraisal Bronze (?)

Kang Zihao
Peak Yellow / Early Bronze
Week 37 = Peak Yellow / Early Bronze

Gan Guangli
Peak Yellow / Early Bronze
Week 39 = Early Bronze
Week 23 = Late 2nd Realm

Lu Feng
Late Yellow / Late Silver
Week 37 = Late 2nd Realm

Xuan Shi
Early Green / Peak Silver
Week 37 = Early Green / Peak Silver

Ji Rong
Late 2nd Realm (?)
Week 31 = Late 2nd Realm
Week 19 = << Stasis >> End
Week 15 = << Stasis >> Start
Week 12 = Double breakthrough to 2nd Realm

Fu Xiang
Early Green / Peak Silver (?)
Week 32 = Breakthrough to Green
Week 23 = Peak 2nd Realm

Han Jian
Late Yellow / Late Silver (?)
Week 33 = Late Silver
Week 29 = Late Yellow (recap?)
Week 26 = Late Yellow / Mid Silver
Week 21 = Mid Yellow / Mid Silver
Week 19 = Mid Silver (probably)
Week 14 = Confirmed Breakthrough to Silver
Week 12 = Breakthrough to Silver (?)
Week 8 = Breakthrough to Yellow

Han Fang
Mid Yellow / Mid Silver (?)
Week 21 = "Not far behind Han Jian"
Week 18 = Breakthrough to Yellow
Week 14 = Confirmed Breakthrough to Silver
Week 12 = Breakthrough to Silver (?)

Gu Xiulan
Peak Yellow / Late Silver
Week 40 = Peak Yellow / Late Silver
Week 29 = Late Yellow
<< Tribulation >>
Week 26 = Mid Yellow / Mid Silver
Week 23 = Mid Yellow
Week 19 = Breakthrough to Silver
Week 12 = Breakthrough to Yellow

Fan Yu
Mid Yellow / Early Silver (?)
Week 40 = Mid Yellow / Early Silver
Week 33 = Mid Yellow
Week 21 = Early Yellow
Week 19 = Breakthrough to Silver
Week 14 = Peak Gold

Li Suyin
Mid Yellow / Early Silver (?)
Week 30 = Breakthrough to Silver
Week 25 = Mid Yellow / Peak Gold
Week 19 = Breakthrough to Yellow
Week 18 = In process of breakthrough to Yellow / Late Gold
Week 12 = Late Red and Mid Gold
Week 6 = Early Gold

Su Ling
Early Yellow / Early Silver (?)
Week 25 = Early Yellow / Early Silver
Week 19 = Breakthrough to Yellow

Huang Da
Mid Yellow / Mid Silver (?)
Week 37 = Mid Yellow / Mid Silver
Week 21 = Mid Yellow / Mid Silver
Week 10 = Breakthrough to Yellow
Laugh at Huang Da. Pity Fan Yu.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Erebeal on Feb 27, 2018 at 4:13 AM, finished with 52973 posts and 40 votes.
  • [X] Plan Efficient Music
    -[X] Grinning Moon Bonus -> Eight Phase Ceremony
    -[X] Argent Vent Bonus -> Argent Storm
    -[X] Overflow -> Spiritual
    -[X] Use 2 virtual and 2 real YSS, Heavy Rains Pill, 5 dice of music bonuses, 10 dice of darkness bonuses, 10 dice of water bonuses (total cost: 20 + 15 + 15 + 40 + 30 = 120 RSS)
    -[X] (MAJOR) Take the Lost And Found job
    -[X] Train Music arts with Zeqing
    --[X] (MAJOR) Forgotten Vale Melody
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] (MAJOR) Frozen Soul Serenade
    --[X] (attached minor) Fulfill your offer with Su Ling, train her in Argent Current for another silverblood
    -[X] (MAJOR) Attempt to placate the Dragon of the Valley
    -[X] Cultivate in the White Room With Xiulan
    --[X] (MAJOR) Open Leg Meridian
    --[X] (attached minor) Perhaps Xiulan could use some help. Track down her training ground and see what she's been up too.
    -[X] (minor) Invite Meizhen out shopping, you could use some advice for what to look for in flying swords
    -[X] (minor) Zhengui's efforts are coming along well, but Gu Tai mentioned that he might be able to help, take him up on it
    -[X] (minor) You… should probably look into what Sixiang is actually doing. The spirit did follow you home.
    [X] Plan Lunar Arts
    -[X] Overflow to spiritual, vent drip to AS, EPC successes to SCS
    -[X] Use 2 virtual and 2 regular YSS (20), 10 dice Moon pills (40), 5 dice Music pills (15), 5 dice Water pills (10), Heavy Rains Pill (15), (total 100 rss)
    -[X] Cultivate in the White Room
    --[X] Leg Meridian
    --[X] With Xiulan
    --[X] (attached minor) Perhaps Xiulan could use some help. Track down her training ground and see what she's been up too.
    -[X] Train Music arts with Zeqing
    --[X] FVM
    -[X] Hire a Tutor (30 sect points)
    --[X] EPC/occult
    --[X] PLR/expression
    -[X] Attempt to placate the Dragon of the Valley
    -[X] Take a job
    --[X] Tournament Preparations
    -[X] (minor) Invite Meizhen out shopping, you could use some advice for what to look for in flying swords
    -[X] (minor) You… should probably look into what Sixiang is actually doing. The spirit did follow you home.
    -[X] (minor) Zhengui's efforts are coming along well, but Gu Tai mentioned that he might be able to help, take him up on it
    [X] Plan Sneaking Terror
    -[X] Grinning Moon Bonus -> Eight Phase Ceremony
    -[X] Argent Vent Bonus -> Argent Storm
    -[X] Overflow -> Spiritual
    -[X] Use 2 virtual and 2 real YSS, Heavy Rains Pill, 5 dice of music bonuses, 10 dice of darkness bonuses, 10 dice of water bonuses (total cost: 20 + 15 + 15 + 40 + 30 = 120 RSS)
    -[X] (MAJOR) The Shambling Terror
    --[X] (attached minor) Zhengui's efforts are coming along well, but Gu Tai mentioned that he might be able to help, take him up on it
    -[X] Train Music arts with Zeqing
    --[X] (MAJOR) Forgotten Vale Melody
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] (MAJOR) Sable Crescent Step
    --[X] (attached minor) You and Suyin could continue working on the pale manual formations, perhaps you could ask Xuan Shi for a tip or two?
    -[X] (MAJOR) Attempt to placate the Dragon of the Valley
    -[X] Cultivate in the White Room With Xiulan
    --[X] (MAJOR) Open Leg Meridian
    -[X] (minor) Take Cai up on the implicit offer, have a chat about tea or... sword techniques, or something less serious
    -[X] (minor) Invite Meizhen out shopping, you could use some advice for what to look for in flying swords
    -[X] (minor) You… should probably look into what Sixiang is actually doing. The spirit did follow you home.
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[X] Plan Lunar Arts

If we're going to be a moon arts cultivator and interact with moon spirits, I'd like to make an acquaintance with others who are in the same situation as us as they'll likely have some helpful advice and perhaps more specific expertise on the eight aspects of the moon than Ling Qi has found in the library.
 
[X] Plan Efficient Music

The other plan has Gu Tai interaction which is a big No No for me.
 
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[X] Plan Lunar Arts

Interesting that we lost the "tell Meizhen about dragon valley" minor. I do hope we'll do that if we get the site.

Unrelatedly, @yrsillar, can we get Music exotic element pills, and if yes, would they apply to PLR or just FSS/FVM?
 
[X] Plan Lunar Arts

The big points of Domain cultivation and Meizhen sword stuff are in all plans so I'm mostly ok with all of them, but another moon cultivator sounds really interesting. I doubt they'll be hugely useful as they are unlikely to be exactly like us, but other incarnations of the same element will definitely give us some more info and ideas on how we could possibly advance.

One of the big things about the moon is change, so I wouldn't be surprised if spine based transformation arts were very common. Who knows, maybe we'll get a straight up werewolf type cultivator, or a more extreme combat version of SCS where they become an intangible shadow in combat.

We might be support focused, but what if we could adapt some of these alternative ideas so that for example our mist (when we get around to making arts) causes allies bodies to transform intangible as a defence, or our song causes enemies to go berserk with a failure turning them into rampaging pseudo werewolves.

I do wonder how Yrs is going to set this all up, maybe we'll mediate on certain elements which will give us insight into them (and we'll start with plus insight into moon and such for obvious reasons), which will then give us bonuses dependent on those insights, a sort of research for perks in art making based system.

Gone a bit far in speculating there, but whatever happens it's sure to be interesting, both now and later.

Actually, our moondiscomoth friend could probably help some with this too, even if she sounds closer to us (which isn't bad of course).
 
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