Actual warships protect your supply lines even better than some last ditch 50% effective desperation PD on the ammo barge. Like, the admirals are straight up asking for Governors over PD refits, it's not that PD refits are useless if only because there's very little that makes it to our desk that's outright useless, but they aren't remotely the navy's top priority and they openly say as much.
Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition
Actual warships protect your supply lines even better than some last ditch 50% effective desperation PD on the ammo barge. Like, the admirals are straight up asking for Governors over PD refits, it's not that PD refits are useless if only because there's very little that makes it to our desk that's outright useless, but they aren't remotely the navy's top priority and they openly say as much.
500 points at 25R per die and a bunch of power consumption isn't worth doing solely for a hidden 5% narrative boost to train construction or whatever. I think our next HI capital goods project, besides finishing out the rolling stock factories finally, is Kure because it's tagged as High Priority and we've been letting it sit for a really long time.
- Location
- The Underdark
Er, they don't actually. The current PD refit project is just for the Battleships and Carriers. UNREP ships and the like would be a separate project.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Maybe MARVs could just... be their own category, and you'd just say "yeah, this is what we spent on MARVs, this is what we spent on all other military dice combined, make of that what you will?"
Because the military is specifically messaging us saying "please chill on the MARVs a little, I know they're important but please," which is probably not something they'd be doing if we'd spent the same amount of effort building killy shit for the Army or swarms of flying killbots for the Air Force or whatever.
Alright I threw together a plan, dominated by the military and capital goods production of course. I'm trying to stick to the urgency tags we just got from interdepartmental communications, those do help demystify a lot, but there are two places I deviated - chemical precursor plants over pharmaceuticals and spending 2 Military dice just to keep our already-committed MARV projects moving instead of doing something priority tagged with them.
I think the chemical plants are worthwhile to prioritize over the pharma despite Welfare or Health or whoever demanding the pharma, my goal is to scrape together enough cap goods to do the strategic planning apparatus next turn which means we'll need the chemical plants and macrospinner complex (rolling stock will cover the shipyard cap goods). If people don't like that, well, we're still in the drafting phase please yell at me so I can change it but I think it's a worthwhile delay.
[] Plan Capitally Urgent
Infrastructure (5 dice)
-[] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 2), 4 dice (40 Resources)
-[] Yellow Zone Arcologies (Phase 1), 1 die (15 Resources)
Heavy Industry (5 dice)
-[] Fusion Peaker Plants, 1 die (20 Resources)
-[] Heavy Rolling Stock Plants, 2 dice (20 Resources)
-[] Kure Machine Works, 2 dice (30 Resources)
Light and Chemical Industry (4 dice)
-[] Chemical Precursor Plants, 2 dice (30 Resources)
-[] Johannesburg Myomer Macrospinner (Phase 1), 2 dice (40 Resources)
Agriculture (3 dice)
-[] State Operated Breweries, 1 die (10 Resources)
-[] Perennial Aquaponics Bays, 2 dice (20 Resources)
Tiberium (5 dice)
-[] Tiberium Prospecting Expeditions (Repeating Phase), 3 dice (15 Resources)
-[] Chicago Planned City (Phase 3), 1 die (20 Resources)
-[] Hewlett-Gardener Method Development, 1 die (30 Resources)
Orbital (3 dice + 1 Free)
-[] GDSS Enterprise (Phase 3), 3 dice (60 Resources)
-[] Orbital Cleanup (Phase 3), 1 die (10 Resources)
Services (4 dice)
-[] Fashion Development Houses, 2 dice (20 Resources)
-[] Game Development Studios, 1 die (5 Resources)
-[] Domestic Animal Programs, 1 die (10 Resources)
Military (5 dice + 5 Free)
-[] Reclamator Hub Red Zone 7 North, 1 die (20 Resources)
-[] Reclamator Fleet YZ-5a, 1 die (20 Resources)
-[] Zone Suit Factories (Oslo), 1 die (15 Resources)
-[] Ablat Plating Deployment (Phase 2), 3 dice (30 Resources)
-[] Governor Class Cruiser Shipyards (Yokohama), 3 dice (60 Resources)
-[] Security Reviews (Military), 1 die
Bureaucracy (3 dice)
-[] Security Reviews (Military), 2 dice
-[] Search For A Successor, 1 die
Total cost: 540 Resources
I think the chemical plants are worthwhile to prioritize over the pharma despite Welfare or Health or whoever demanding the pharma, my goal is to scrape together enough cap goods to do the strategic planning apparatus next turn which means we'll need the chemical plants and macrospinner complex (rolling stock will cover the shipyard cap goods). If people don't like that, well, we're still in the drafting phase please yell at me so I can change it but I think it's a worthwhile delay.
[] Plan Capitally Urgent
Infrastructure (5 dice)
-[] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 2), 4 dice (40 Resources)
-[] Yellow Zone Arcologies (Phase 1), 1 die (15 Resources)
Heavy Industry (5 dice)
-[] Fusion Peaker Plants, 1 die (20 Resources)
-[] Heavy Rolling Stock Plants, 2 dice (20 Resources)
-[] Kure Machine Works, 2 dice (30 Resources)
Light and Chemical Industry (4 dice)
-[] Chemical Precursor Plants, 2 dice (30 Resources)
-[] Johannesburg Myomer Macrospinner (Phase 1), 2 dice (40 Resources)
Agriculture (3 dice)
-[] State Operated Breweries, 1 die (10 Resources)
-[] Perennial Aquaponics Bays, 2 dice (20 Resources)
Tiberium (5 dice)
-[] Tiberium Prospecting Expeditions (Repeating Phase), 3 dice (15 Resources)
-[] Chicago Planned City (Phase 3), 1 die (20 Resources)
-[] Hewlett-Gardener Method Development, 1 die (30 Resources)
Orbital (3 dice + 1 Free)
-[] GDSS Enterprise (Phase 3), 3 dice (60 Resources)
-[] Orbital Cleanup (Phase 3), 1 die (10 Resources)
Services (4 dice)
-[] Fashion Development Houses, 2 dice (20 Resources)
-[] Game Development Studios, 1 die (5 Resources)
-[] Domestic Animal Programs, 1 die (10 Resources)
Military (5 dice + 5 Free)
-[] Reclamator Hub Red Zone 7 North, 1 die (20 Resources)
-[] Reclamator Fleet YZ-5a, 1 die (20 Resources)
-[] Zone Suit Factories (Oslo), 1 die (15 Resources)
-[] Ablat Plating Deployment (Phase 2), 3 dice (30 Resources)
-[] Governor Class Cruiser Shipyards (Yokohama), 3 dice (60 Resources)
-[] Security Reviews (Military), 1 die
Bureaucracy (3 dice)
-[] Security Reviews (Military), 2 dice
-[] Search For A Successor, 1 die
Total cost: 540 Resources
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X]Plan One LCI A Turn, Part 1
-[X]Infrastructure 5/5 55R
--[X] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 2) 0/450 4 dice 40R
--[X] Yellow Zone Arcologies (Phase 1) 136/170 1 die 97% 15R
-[X]Heavy Industry 5/5 + 1 85R
--[X] Fusion Peaker Plants 172/240 1 die 20R 66%
--[X] Heavy Rolling Stock Plants 171/250 2 die 20R 55%
--[X] North Boston Chip Fabrication (Phase 4) 64/1200 3 die 45R
-[X]LCI 4/4 65R
--[X] Chemical Precursor Plants 36/200 3 dice 45R 82%
--[X] Johannesburg Myomer Macrospinner (phase 1) 73/90 1 dice 20R 100%
-[X]Agriculture 3/3 30R
--[X] State Operated Breweries 85/125 1 die 10R 91%
--[X] Perennial Aquaponics Bays 177/350 2 dice 20R 97%
-[X]Tiberium 5/5 105R
--[X] Chicago Planned City (Phase 3) 49/320 4 Tib dice 80R 91%
--[X] Improved Tiberium Containment Facilities Development 0/40 1 die 25R 100%
-[X]Orbital 3/3 3/3F 60R
--[X] GDSS Enterprise (Phase 3) 68/390 3 dice 60R
-[X]Services 4/4 20R
--[X] Game Development Studios 0/300 4 dice 20R 73%
-[X]Military 5/5 + 4 110R
--[X] Reclaimator Hub RZ-7 North 49/105 1 dice 20R 75%
--[X] Super MARV Reclaimator Fleet (YZ-5a) 88/210 1 die 20R 9%
--[X] Titan Mark 3 Deployment 0/175 2 dice 20R 26%
--[X] Governor Class Cruiser Shipyards
---[X]Hampton Roads 0/200 1 dice 20R 11%
--[X] Remote Weapons System Deployment Predator 0/240 1 die 10R
--[X] Ablat Plating Deployment (phase 2) 38/200 2 dice 20R 36%
--[X] Security Review 1 die
-[X]Bureaucracy 3/3
--[X]Security Reviews
---[X]Military, 2 dice
--[X] Search For A Successor 1 die auto
530/540R, 5/5 free dice.
I thought about swapping out for Vaccines like I talked about earlier, but we're going to need the R for Q2, because Superconducters are expensive.
EDIT: Governor Shipyard: I don't know where I should put it exactly. Any ideas?
-[X]Infrastructure 5/5 55R
--[X] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 2) 0/450 4 dice 40R
--[X] Yellow Zone Arcologies (Phase 1) 136/170 1 die 97% 15R
-[X]Heavy Industry 5/5 + 1 85R
--[X] Fusion Peaker Plants 172/240 1 die 20R 66%
--[X] Heavy Rolling Stock Plants 171/250 2 die 20R 55%
--[X] North Boston Chip Fabrication (Phase 4) 64/1200 3 die 45R
-[X]LCI 4/4 65R
--[X] Chemical Precursor Plants 36/200 3 dice 45R 82%
--[X] Johannesburg Myomer Macrospinner (phase 1) 73/90 1 dice 20R 100%
-[X]Agriculture 3/3 30R
--[X] State Operated Breweries 85/125 1 die 10R 91%
--[X] Perennial Aquaponics Bays 177/350 2 dice 20R 97%
-[X]Tiberium 5/5 105R
--[X] Chicago Planned City (Phase 3) 49/320 4 Tib dice 80R 91%
--[X] Improved Tiberium Containment Facilities Development 0/40 1 die 25R 100%
-[X]Orbital 3/3 3/3F 60R
--[X] GDSS Enterprise (Phase 3) 68/390 3 dice 60R
-[X]Services 4/4 20R
--[X] Game Development Studios 0/300 4 dice 20R 73%
-[X]Military 5/5 + 4 110R
--[X] Reclaimator Hub RZ-7 North 49/105 1 dice 20R 75%
--[X] Super MARV Reclaimator Fleet (YZ-5a) 88/210 1 die 20R 9%
--[X] Titan Mark 3 Deployment 0/175 2 dice 20R 26%
--[X] Governor Class Cruiser Shipyards
---[X]Hampton Roads 0/200 1 dice 20R 11%
--[X] Remote Weapons System Deployment Predator 0/240 1 die 10R
--[X] Ablat Plating Deployment (phase 2) 38/200 2 dice 20R 36%
--[X] Security Review 1 die
-[X]Bureaucracy 3/3
--[X]Security Reviews
---[X]Military, 2 dice
--[X] Search For A Successor 1 die auto
530/540R, 5/5 free dice.
I thought about swapping out for Vaccines like I talked about earlier, but we're going to need the R for Q2, because Superconducters are expensive.
EDIT: Governor Shipyard: I don't know where I should put it exactly. Any ideas?
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F0lkL0re
Officially not an Inquisitor
- Location
- Shetland
[] Plan Some Important Items Included
Infrastructure 5/5 75R
-[] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 2) 4 dice 40R 0%
(progress 0/450: 10 resources per die) (++++ Energy)
-[ ] Yellow Zone Arcologies (Phase 1) 1 die 15R 97%
(Progress 136/170: 15 resources per die) (+++ Housing) (High Priority)
-[ ] Chicago Planned City (Phase 3) 1 Tiberium die 20R 0%
(Progress 49/320: 20 resources per die) (++ Housing, --- Labor, -- Logistics, --- Energy) (Can spend mixed Tiberium and Infrastructure dice, at least 1 die must be Tiberium) (+2 Red Zone Abatement, +3 Yellow Zone Abatement, +100 Tiberium Processing Capacity)
Heavy Industry 5/5 55R
-[ ] Fusion Peaker Plants 2 dice 20R 99%
(Progress 172/240: 20 resources per die) (+++ Energy) (High Priority)
-[ ] Heavy Rolling Stock Plants 2 dice 20R 96%
(Progress 171/250: 10 resources per die) (++ Logistics, ++ Capital Goods, --- Energy) (High Priority)
-[ ] North Boston Chip Fabricator (Phase 4) 1 die 15R 0%
(Progress 64/1200: 15 resources per die) ( +++++ Capital Goods ++++ Consumer Goods -- Labor --- Energy)
Light and Chemical Industry 4/4 65R
-[ ] Chemical Precursor Plants 3 dice 45R 82%
(Progress 36/200: 15 resources per die) (++ Capital Goods, -- Energy)
-[ ] Johannesburg Myomer Macrospinner (phase 1) 1 dice 20R 100%
(Progress 73/90: 20 resources per die)
Agriculture /3 30R
-[ ] State Operated Breweries 1 die 91%
(progress 85/125: 10 resources per die) (+++ Consumer goods, --- Food)
-[] Perennial Aquaponics Bays 2 dice 97%
(Progress 278/350: 10 resources per die) (++++ Food over 8 turns, +++ Consumer Goods over 8 turns) (5 Political Support)
Tiberium 5/5 65R
-[] Tiberium Prospecting Expeditions (Repeating Phase) 2 dice 10R 36%
(Progress 2/200: 5 resources per die) (Small additional income trickle [5 Resources])
-[ ] Improved Tiberium Containment Facilities Development 1 die 25R 100%
(Progress 0/40: 25 resources per die)
-[ ] Hewlett-Gardener Method Development 1 die 30R 100%
(Progress 0/40: 30 resources per die)
Orbital 3/3 4 fusion dice 60R
-[ ] GDSS Enterprise (Phase 3) 3 fusion dice 60R 1%
(Progress 68/390: 30 resources per die) (+ Capital Goods, + Consumer Goods)
Services 4/4 30R
-[ ] Fashion development houses 2 dice 20R 13%
(Progress 0/225: 10 resources per die) (+++ Consumer Goods)
-[ ] Game Development Studios 2 dice 10R 0%
(Progress 0/300: 5 Resources per die) (+++ Consumer Goods)
Military 5/5 155R
-[] Stealth Disrupter System Development 1 die 25R 91%
(Progress 0/40: 25 resources per die)
-[ ] Reclamator Hubs
--[ ] Reclamator Hub Red Zone 7 North 1 die 20R 75%
(Progress 49/105)
-[ ] Reclamator Fleet YZ-5a
--[ ] Super MARVs 1 dice 20R 9%
(progress 88/210: 20 resources per die) (3 Points Yellow Zone Mitigation, 15 RpT)
[ ] Zone Suit Factories
--[ ] Oslo 1 die 15R 71%
(Progress 0/60: 15 resources per die) (-- Labor, -- Energy) (Very High Priority)
-[ ] Orca Refit Package Development 1 free die 15R 91%
(Progress 0/40: 15 resources per die) (High Priority)
-[] Ablat Plating Deployment (phase 2) 3 free dice 30R 83%
(Progress 38/200: 10 resources per die) (Very High Priority)
-[ ] Governor Class Cruiser Shipyards
--[ ] Rosyth 1 free die 20R 0%
(Progress 0/200: 20 resources per die) (- Capital Goods, -- Energy, - Labor)(Very High Priority)
-[ ] Titan Mark 3 Deployment 1 free die 10R 0%
(Progress 0/175: 10 resources per die) (-- Energy)
Bureaucracy 3/3
-[ ] Security Reviews (Military) 1 Military die + 2 dice 99%
(DC 60 + 1 operations die)
-[] Search For A Successor 1 die
Free Dice 6/6
535/540 0/0 Reserve
Anyone have any feed back or spot any errors?
Infrastructure 5/5 75R
-[] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 2) 4 dice 40R 0%
(progress 0/450: 10 resources per die) (++++ Energy)
-[ ] Yellow Zone Arcologies (Phase 1) 1 die 15R 97%
(Progress 136/170: 15 resources per die) (+++ Housing) (High Priority)
-[ ] Chicago Planned City (Phase 3) 1 Tiberium die 20R 0%
(Progress 49/320: 20 resources per die) (++ Housing, --- Labor, -- Logistics, --- Energy) (Can spend mixed Tiberium and Infrastructure dice, at least 1 die must be Tiberium) (+2 Red Zone Abatement, +3 Yellow Zone Abatement, +100 Tiberium Processing Capacity)
Heavy Industry 5/5 55R
-[ ] Fusion Peaker Plants 2 dice 20R 99%
(Progress 172/240: 20 resources per die) (+++ Energy) (High Priority)
-[ ] Heavy Rolling Stock Plants 2 dice 20R 96%
(Progress 171/250: 10 resources per die) (++ Logistics, ++ Capital Goods, --- Energy) (High Priority)
-[ ] North Boston Chip Fabricator (Phase 4) 1 die 15R 0%
(Progress 64/1200: 15 resources per die) ( +++++ Capital Goods ++++ Consumer Goods -- Labor --- Energy)
Light and Chemical Industry 4/4 65R
-[ ] Chemical Precursor Plants 3 dice 45R 82%
(Progress 36/200: 15 resources per die) (++ Capital Goods, -- Energy)
-[ ] Johannesburg Myomer Macrospinner (phase 1) 1 dice 20R 100%
(Progress 73/90: 20 resources per die)
Agriculture /3 30R
-[ ] State Operated Breweries 1 die 91%
(progress 85/125: 10 resources per die) (+++ Consumer goods, --- Food)
-[] Perennial Aquaponics Bays 2 dice 97%
(Progress 278/350: 10 resources per die) (++++ Food over 8 turns, +++ Consumer Goods over 8 turns) (5 Political Support)
Tiberium 5/5 65R
-[] Tiberium Prospecting Expeditions (Repeating Phase) 2 dice 10R 36%
(Progress 2/200: 5 resources per die) (Small additional income trickle [5 Resources])
-[ ] Improved Tiberium Containment Facilities Development 1 die 25R 100%
(Progress 0/40: 25 resources per die)
-[ ] Hewlett-Gardener Method Development 1 die 30R 100%
(Progress 0/40: 30 resources per die)
Orbital 3/3 4 fusion dice 60R
-[ ] GDSS Enterprise (Phase 3) 3 fusion dice 60R 1%
(Progress 68/390: 30 resources per die) (+ Capital Goods, + Consumer Goods)
Services 4/4 30R
-[ ] Fashion development houses 2 dice 20R 13%
(Progress 0/225: 10 resources per die) (+++ Consumer Goods)
-[ ] Game Development Studios 2 dice 10R 0%
(Progress 0/300: 5 Resources per die) (+++ Consumer Goods)
Military 5/5 155R
-[] Stealth Disrupter System Development 1 die 25R 91%
(Progress 0/40: 25 resources per die)
-[ ] Reclamator Hubs
--[ ] Reclamator Hub Red Zone 7 North 1 die 20R 75%
(Progress 49/105)
-[ ] Reclamator Fleet YZ-5a
--[ ] Super MARVs 1 dice 20R 9%
(progress 88/210: 20 resources per die) (3 Points Yellow Zone Mitigation, 15 RpT)
[ ] Zone Suit Factories
--[ ] Oslo 1 die 15R 71%
(Progress 0/60: 15 resources per die) (-- Labor, -- Energy) (Very High Priority)
-[ ] Orca Refit Package Development 1 free die 15R 91%
(Progress 0/40: 15 resources per die) (High Priority)
-[] Ablat Plating Deployment (phase 2) 3 free dice 30R 83%
(Progress 38/200: 10 resources per die) (Very High Priority)
-[ ] Governor Class Cruiser Shipyards
--[ ] Rosyth 1 free die 20R 0%
(Progress 0/200: 20 resources per die) (- Capital Goods, -- Energy, - Labor)(Very High Priority)
-[ ] Titan Mark 3 Deployment 1 free die 10R 0%
(Progress 0/175: 10 resources per die) (-- Energy)
Bureaucracy 3/3
-[ ] Security Reviews (Military) 1 Military die + 2 dice 99%
(DC 60 + 1 operations die)
-[] Search For A Successor 1 die
Free Dice 6/6
535/540 0/0 Reserve
Anyone have any feed back or spot any errors?
- Location
- Mobile, Alabama
MARVs may trip over the occasional Nod refinery base. But they're basically useless offensive weapons. I mean they are mega tanky but they don't exactly project power like aircraft, ships and tanks. They are great defensive weapons. Even if they are just defending themselves and munching on green rocks.
As written there's only 4 Tiberium dice active, but it says 5/5, I think you meant to put 3 dice on Tiberium prospecting not 2?
F0lkL0re
Officially not an Inquisitor
- Location
- Shetland
I put a tib die on Chicago in infrastructure.
Ah yeah ok that would explain it, didn't think to look up there
My plan for the coming turn with as focus the Johannesburg Myomer Macrospinner where I am trying to get two phases done(92% with 4 dice) and 3 dice on Kure
I am going for the Remote Weapons System Rollout to support yellow zone harvesting next turn where improved tanks and additional zone suites will help with the ground fighting.
The cruiser yard is in Japan as our other yards are in Copenhagen and Oman and wanted to give that part of the world a working naval yard.
[ ] Plan Myomer Titan next turn
Infrastructure (5 dice)
-[ ] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 2), 4 dice (40 Resources)
-[ ] Yellow Zone Arcologies (Phase 1), 1 die (15 Resources)
Heavy Industry (5 dice)
-[ ] Fusion Peaker Plants, 1 die (20 Resources)
-[ ] Heavy Rolling Stock Plants, 1 dice (10 Resources)
-[ ] Kure Machine Works 3 dice (45 Resources)
Light and Chemical Industry (4 dice)
-[ ] Johannesburg Myomer Macrospinner, 4 dice (80 Resources)
Agriculture (3 dice)
-[ ] State Operated Breweries, 1 die (10 Resources)
-[ ] Perennial Aquaponics Bays, 2 dice (20 Resources)
Tiberium (5 dice)
-[ ] Tiberium Prospecting Expeditions, 4 dice (20 Resources)
-[ ] Hewlett-Gardener Method Development 1 die (30 Resources)
Orbital (3 dice )
-[ ] GDSS Enterprise (Phase 3), 3 dice (3 Fusion) (60 Resources)
Services (4 dice)
-[ ] Game Development Studios, 4 dice (20 Resources)
Military (5 dice +6 Free)
-[ ] Reclamator Hub (RZ-7 North), 1 die (20 Resources)
-[ ] Reclamator Fleet YZ-5a (Super MARVs), 1 dice (20 Resources)
-[ ] Zone Suit Factories 0/60 1 die 15R 71%
-[ ] Stealth Disruptor System Development 0/40 1 die 25R 91%
-[ ] Yokohama (Progress 0/200: 20 resources per die) (- Capital Goods, -- Energy, - Labor) 3 dice (60 Resources)
-[ ] Remote Weapons System Rollout, 3 dice (30 Resources) 0/240
-[ ] Security Review, 1 die
Bureaucracy (3 dice)
-[ ] Security Review (Military), 2 dice
-[ ] Search For A Successor
Resources Available: 540
Resources Used: 540
I am going for the Remote Weapons System Rollout to support yellow zone harvesting next turn where improved tanks and additional zone suites will help with the ground fighting.
The cruiser yard is in Japan as our other yards are in Copenhagen and Oman and wanted to give that part of the world a working naval yard.
[ ] Plan Myomer Titan next turn
Infrastructure (5 dice)
-[ ] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 2), 4 dice (40 Resources)
-[ ] Yellow Zone Arcologies (Phase 1), 1 die (15 Resources)
Heavy Industry (5 dice)
-[ ] Fusion Peaker Plants, 1 die (20 Resources)
-[ ] Heavy Rolling Stock Plants, 1 dice (10 Resources)
-[ ] Kure Machine Works 3 dice (45 Resources)
Light and Chemical Industry (4 dice)
-[ ] Johannesburg Myomer Macrospinner, 4 dice (80 Resources)
Agriculture (3 dice)
-[ ] State Operated Breweries, 1 die (10 Resources)
-[ ] Perennial Aquaponics Bays, 2 dice (20 Resources)
Tiberium (5 dice)
-[ ] Tiberium Prospecting Expeditions, 4 dice (20 Resources)
-[ ] Hewlett-Gardener Method Development 1 die (30 Resources)
Orbital (3 dice )
-[ ] GDSS Enterprise (Phase 3), 3 dice (3 Fusion) (60 Resources)
Services (4 dice)
-[ ] Game Development Studios, 4 dice (20 Resources)
Military (5 dice +6 Free)
-[ ] Reclamator Hub (RZ-7 North), 1 die (20 Resources)
-[ ] Reclamator Fleet YZ-5a (Super MARVs), 1 dice (20 Resources)
-[ ] Zone Suit Factories 0/60 1 die 15R 71%
-[ ] Stealth Disruptor System Development 0/40 1 die 25R 91%
-[ ] Yokohama (Progress 0/200: 20 resources per die) (- Capital Goods, -- Energy, - Labor) 3 dice (60 Resources)
-[ ] Remote Weapons System Rollout, 3 dice (30 Resources) 0/240
-[ ] Security Review, 1 die
Bureaucracy (3 dice)
-[ ] Security Review (Military), 2 dice
-[ ] Search For A Successor
Resources Available: 540
Resources Used: 540
Why RWS over more ablative plating though? They're the same cost, they're both Ground Forces projects, except the plating is Very High Priority while the RWS is just plain High Priority. If we want to take more YZ territory (and I at least do), the ablat plating increases survivability of all hardware, including but not limited to the Predators, for fewer points at the same per-die cost as RWS, and the generals want it more on top of (or because of) all that.
trooperist
Cinnamon Roll AI
Breakdown of available Capital Goods. (Assuming Tokyo is complete inverse of Boston)
Reminder that we need 16 Capital Goods in 2 years/8 turns.
Heavy Industry
Heavy Rolling Stock - +2 Capital, -4 Energy, 171/250, 10 Resource
Kure Machine Works - +2 Capital, -4 Energy, 0/280, 15 Resource
Heavy Industrial Sectors - +8 Capital, -8 Energy, 0/500, 25 Resource
Boston Phase 4 - +16 Capital, +8 Consumer, -4 Energy, 64/1200, 15 Resource
Tokyo Phase 1 - 0/125, 15 Resource
Tokyo Phase 2 - +2 Consumer?, 0/300?, 15 Resource
Tokyo Phase 3 - +4 Capital?, +8 Consumer?, -4 Energy?, 0/600?, 15 Resource
Tokyo Phase 4 - +8 Capital?, +16 Consumer?, -4 Energy?, 0/1200?, 15 Resource
Light and Chemical Industry
Chemical Precursor - +2 Capital, -2 Energy, 36/200, 15 Resource
Superconductors - +2 Capital, +4 Energy, 0/200, 30 Resource
Orbital
Enterprise Phase 3 - +1 Capital, +1 Consumer, 68/390, 30 Resource
Right now it's possible to complete the requirements of the Plan by completing all the various minor projects and doing Heavy Industrial Sectors. We wouldn't even have to touch either Chip Fabricator project. Heavy Industrial Sectors does take a lot of energy, but it does give us a bunch of immediately usable Capital Goods rather than piecemeal.
Reminder that we need 16 Capital Goods in 2 years/8 turns.
Heavy Industry
Heavy Rolling Stock - +2 Capital, -4 Energy, 171/250, 10 Resource
Kure Machine Works - +2 Capital, -4 Energy, 0/280, 15 Resource
Heavy Industrial Sectors - +8 Capital, -8 Energy, 0/500, 25 Resource
Boston Phase 4 - +16 Capital, +8 Consumer, -4 Energy, 64/1200, 15 Resource
Tokyo Phase 1 - 0/125, 15 Resource
Tokyo Phase 2 - +2 Consumer?, 0/300?, 15 Resource
Tokyo Phase 3 - +4 Capital?, +8 Consumer?, -4 Energy?, 0/600?, 15 Resource
Tokyo Phase 4 - +8 Capital?, +16 Consumer?, -4 Energy?, 0/1200?, 15 Resource
Light and Chemical Industry
Chemical Precursor - +2 Capital, -2 Energy, 36/200, 15 Resource
Superconductors - +2 Capital, +4 Energy, 0/200, 30 Resource
Orbital
Enterprise Phase 3 - +1 Capital, +1 Consumer, 68/390, 30 Resource
Right now it's possible to complete the requirements of the Plan by completing all the various minor projects and doing Heavy Industrial Sectors. We wouldn't even have to touch either Chip Fabricator project. Heavy Industrial Sectors does take a lot of energy, but it does give us a bunch of immediately usable Capital Goods rather than piecemeal.
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I think laser weapons are still rare they were seen only in South America so far so I think the RWS is more useful in the short term. It is also part of unlocking the next generation of tanks and we have a small amount of production for the units that do face lasers. I agree we need more ablative materials this year but I like to get the RWS done first so the other branches can use it.
Laser weapons aren't rare, NOD getting more and more lasers worldwide has been a recurring theme in the intel reports for years at this point. The South American branches are unusually laser-heavy even by NOD standards because the guy running them has a laser fetish, but the entire planet is seeing more and more lasers beyond the already-pretty-common laser standards of TW3. Everyone everywhere is facing lasers and wants Ablat Plating done yesterday, that's what the flavor text said last update and it's why the generals are marking it as the highest priority project in the Ground Forces sector. The reason we did interdepartmental communications initiatives was to get this exact kind of advice, immediately ignoring it without a clear reason is silly imo.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
OK, gonna do a reactionpost.
If you've already answered this question, sorry.
This is a sign of our confidence on matters of Housing and, to an extent, Logistics.
Although I can't shake the feeling that megaprojects don't get High Priority in part because the relevant departments look at the price tag, go into sticker shock, and are afraid to recommend something so mind-crogglingly pricey to their boss.
@Ithillid , care to comment?
THIS. This this this.
These projects are how we run up the Political Support to do that, while remaining popular enough that we have influence in picking our successor, and so that our successor is not forced into a bad position making too many promises for next Plan.
I strongly recommend we spend 2056 working on the first few phases of Shala, finishing orbital cleanup, and launching commsat spam. If we must do Enterprise Phase 3 first I accept that, but none of these projects should still be neglected as of New Year's 2057.
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I will say, though, that given that a much larger proportion of humanity now lives in cramped housing in very large apartment buildings or arcologies, that I think that we're gonna need to either quietly discourage dog ownership, or genetically engineer them not to bark so much. I know lots of people love their doggos and I don't begrudge them that, but unless the state of soundproofing in GDI's residential buildings is vastly superior to what's found in early 21st century America... it's gonna be a problem.
This will also help us find and roll back Nod bases, which are apparently often stealthed.
Or just quietly mark them on the map for a MARV to 'accidentally' drive right over their Construction Yard a week later, 'coincidentally.'
Nod's situation in the air seems to have been kind of the reverse of what everyone's been feeling from them on the ground. Even in Tib War III it wasn't their strong suit and they were already on the back foot, and then we started rolling out the Apollos and it just started ripping them to shreds. Their commanders must have been screaming at them that the air situation was shitty even by Nod standards.
The 'Barghest' (which I prefer to think of as the Banshee-bis because as far as I can tell it's a barely updated repeat model of the old Banshee) is something they had to frantically throw in the air to have something capable of countering the Apollo.
From our perspective the air situation was bad because GDI has the implicit expectation of air supremacy over pretty much any place it cares to flex its muscles, and we didn't have that. From Nod's perspective the air situation was always bad because GDI has air superiority almost all the time, they just live with it as best they can. There's probably some Noddie equivalent of Havoc who's such a beloved old warhorse that Kane tolerates his constant back-talk about how he should never have stood down the Banshee program.
Anyway, back on topic. As the Air Force actually starts encountering more Banshee-bis 'Barghest' air superiority fighters, which will almost certainly swat Orcas out of the sky even if we refit them and which are worryingly capable of responding to Apollos... they're gonna want to get killier. Any of the three programs is in some ways a counter to the Banshee-bis.
Airborne lasers mean we have a very reliable means of shooting them down if they don't notice us coming, or don't react in time, and with computer control and a bit of flexibility in the targeting optics we may even be able to pot them at longer ranges or while they're maneuvering. The ability to pull twenty-gee maneuvers in a dogfight may let you outrun a pilot's ability to lay a gun on you, and it may let you outturn a guided missile, but it sure as hell doesn't let you outturn a goddamn thermonuclear flashlight.
Quick-maneuvering missiles (Ace Combat fans will think QAAM) are more of a stopgap measure but they will help by bringing missile kill probabilities up markedly and letting us restore the existing air-to-air paradigm where long range engagement and electronics matter more than heroic ballsy pilots dogfighting in gun range. Since Nod has a larger population base than we do from which to draw its ace pilots, but a weaker overall military-industrial complex as a whole, we very much want the paradigm to be about the impersonal machinery of radar-guided warfare and NOT ballsy banzai ace pilots.
Wingman drones can very possibly match the Banshee-derived craft for maneuverability, and are hilariously expendable compared to actual trained pilots that Nod must spend precious resources equipping with some of the highest-end technology in their arsenal. The most hilarious option would be a wingman drone with a Gatling laser that just sticks on the enemy like white on rice and inflicts chip damage to the enemy aircraft a little at a time until it dies. Unstoppable, unshakable, and intimidating as fuckall.
If the guns are more accurate, we can get the same results while expending less shells.
If the guns are smaller-caliber, we can produce and transport vastly more shells for the same price and logistics footprint.
If the guns are physically lighter, that means more room for ammunition at the frontline and more ease of transporting them (especially by air), which in turn means fewer guns are actually required to cover the same frontage as long as Nod doesn't launch gigantic army-level attacks all along the front lines all at once, which usually isn't their style.
Meanwhile, MLRS and railgun munition diversification are good too. All these projects fall into the same general "big guns for the Army" role, of course. Notably we need progress on this front if we want to build more fortress towns and expand our operations in the Yellow Zones.
Fortunately we DO have enough short-term Capital Goods options that we don't HAVE to panic and delay all this until North Boston completes.
Though if we aggressively commit to the Navy,
While we do have straightforward options for radically improving the Capital Goods and Food situations, we do need to recognize that we are not doing great on those plan commitments.
Hmmokay, good to know this is seen as high priority. On the other hand it is painfully expensive, both in dice and in resources. We may just plain not be able to afford this scale of arcology expansion by the end of the Plan, because we're looking at something in the general neighborhood of nine dice to make it happen.
Synergy here: we can operate a lot more trains if we have this, but we need more train cars and locomotives if we're going to use this.
Given that this provides just as much Housing as a wave of arcologies for a tiny fraction of the cost, I'm a bit frustrated that this isn't a high priority along with Phase 2 of Blue Zone Arcologies. @Ithillid , would you care to comment?
A very tempting megaproject and we shouldn't forget it exists.
@Ithillid , I know there was talk of setting up around Mecca to keep the Red Zone from eating it. Do you have any comments about that? Is it gated behind Karachi, is it actually a MARV hub site, or... I dunno?
If you've already answered this question, sorry.
It's noteworthy that this is actually damn near twice as efficient from a "dice per energy" perspective as Tidal Power. It's just that we have so many other things we see as more important to do with our Heavy Industry and Free dice, that our Infrastructure dice are worth using on +Energy projects even if it means using them literally half as efficiently.
This is a sign of our confidence on matters of Housing and, to an extent, Logistics.
Good to know the thread isn't in disagreement with the bureaucrats about everything.
Given that we've been putting this off for a while, I'm kind of weirdly glad it's not High Priority.
Although I can't shake the feeling that megaprojects don't get High Priority in part because the relevant departments look at the price tag, go into sticker shock, and are afraid to recommend something so mind-crogglingly pricey to their boss.
@Ithillid , care to comment?
It should be noted that this is probably the best damn +Logistics option we have right now. Quick and easy and not TOO expensive. Roughly a third of the cost of the Integrated Logistics System in Progress, about 40% of the expected Resource cost, and every bit as efficient in Capital Goods. The only drawback is that it's Energy-inefficient compared to Integrated Logistics, but we... actually DO have enough +Energy options on the table that this isn't necessarily a show-stopper. This may bear considering if we can maintain a mild Capital Goods surplus, because it'd give us a LOT more freedom of action to do Logistics-consuming things.
I'm honestly surprised that this isn't High Priority, and kind of relieved given how slow we've been about actually doing it. It's still a valuable project, though, even if no one's begging for it.
Mm. A gentle reminder to do +Health options for once. And this probably would make a lot of people happy even if it isn't directly measured in Consumer Goods output.
You know, it occurs to me that having this near the Myomer Works is actually some nice synergy. Just an idle thought.
This is a yummy option and if we weren't so hard up for Capital Goods I'd strongly recommend it.
This is great, I know, but the Resource cost is a ballbuster. I think it would be better to wait on this until, say, a turn when we get a +Resource surge from an orbital cleanup phase or something, so that there's a bit more slack in the budget.
This would solve our Plan goal problems all by itself, and indeed overfulfill them once Perennials are factored in... if we were willing to spend Capital Goods on agriculture, which realistically... nah, not happening.
These two projects would effectively have to be taken in tandem but there's a lot to say for them. The exorbitant Water surplus it gives the Green Zones (that is, our parts of the Yellow Zones) will have knock-on effects, I suspect.
This plus finishing Perennials this turn will at least meet our Food target for the Plan, I think, and give us a comfortable enough margin of surplus that we can seriously consider pursuing -Food +Consumer Goods options in greater numbers. Should definitely be a priority, but because of the high Resource cost per die we should probably take it slow to avoid wasting dice. It's important, but not super urgent.
I don't know if this will do much for our actual infantry armor needs given that we already mass-produce boron carbide, but it's worth a shot.
Ahhh, and here is where underground tiberium mining starts helping us keep our Blue Zones nice and Blue. I was wondering when we'd see this, @Ithillid . I also really appreciate the basic idea of having the 'repeating phase' option for a low-cost low-value Tiberium option.
Still realistically and sadly off the table until the military has more confidence and more kaboom to lob at Nod.
This is seriously worth doing, yeah. It's been ignored for a while mostly because of Chicago sucking the oxygen out of the room, but those who want to do it are not wrong.
Shiny but not urgent; we're not in imminent danger of hitting our refinery cap.
This should almost certainly be completed before the big +500 Refineries project, and arguably before Chicago Phase 3..
Delicious, but it'd cost us something like 12 Orbital dice to complete, which is something like a full year of maximum effort. If we're careful we can probably fit it in before the end of the Plan but I'd rather not monofocus on it. Other stuff needs doing. For instance...
This will almost certainly unlock space industry options that in turn give us +RpT that ISN'T coming from tiberium mining and so bypasses our refinery cap. That would be... pretty sweet.
ATTENTION, EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO BOOST CO-OPS and LABOR UNIONS.
THIS. This this this.
These projects are how we run up the Political Support to do that, while remaining popular enough that we have influence in picking our successor, and so that our successor is not forced into a bad position making too many promises for next Plan.
I strongly recommend we spend 2056 working on the first few phases of Shala, finishing orbital cleanup, and launching commsat spam. If we must do Enterprise Phase 3 first I accept that, but none of these projects should still be neglected as of New Year's 2057.
With Enterprise likely to be scaling up to the point where it can use space-mined materials within the next year or two, and given that scouting the asteroid belt will definitely take time, this is important and we should start it ASAP. Otherwise we may be stuck with a big factory in orbit and no raw materials to feed into it.
Ahhh, a -Health option. Worth doing for the political support if we can get our ducks in a row.
VERY worth doing, but not cheap. I'm not surprised to see new Services projects like these.
Oooh, appealing. The ratio of -Food to +Consumer Goods isn't great, but +5 Political Support is sweet, and we can probably scoop this up easy and cheap in Resources and dice.
...
I will say, though, that given that a much larger proportion of humanity now lives in cramped housing in very large apartment buildings or arcologies, that I think that we're gonna need to either quietly discourage dog ownership, or genetically engineer them not to bark so much. I know lots of people love their doggos and I don't begrudge them that, but unless the state of soundproofing in GDI's residential buildings is vastly superior to what's found in early 21st century America... it's gonna be a problem.
This is particularly important given that some of the changes we've made to GDI's military posture make us MORE vulnerable to stealth vehicles, not less. The old big stompy Juggernauts are almost certainly less susceptible to a sudden sneak attack by Stealth tanks than our new artillery batteries- if nothing else because the Juggernaut is less likely to suffer immediate crippling damage before its escorts' antitank weapons blow the Stealth Tanks to smithereens.
This will also help us find and roll back Nod bases, which are apparently often stealthed.
Or just quietly mark them on the map for a MARV to 'accidentally' drive right over their Construction Yard a week later, 'coincidentally.'
Notably, ZOCOM doesn't seem to really be hurting for sonic artillery, but they really wish we'd get off our butts and finish the Oslo plant. I'm kind of surprised, but I guess that with five factories making almost enough power armor for everyone in their forces, they're kind of feeling sheepish and self-conscious about always not quite having enough and having to tell that one squad to bare-ass it. Given how hard we surged construction on the first five plants, during a Plan that was very scanty on military spending in general, I can't blame them for wondering why we never got around to this.
I feel vindicated that the Air Force wants this most; I've been stumping for it.
Frankly, the Air Force is probably gonna start screaming for at least one of these as Nod continues deployment of the Banshee-bis.
Nod's situation in the air seems to have been kind of the reverse of what everyone's been feeling from them on the ground. Even in Tib War III it wasn't their strong suit and they were already on the back foot, and then we started rolling out the Apollos and it just started ripping them to shreds. Their commanders must have been screaming at them that the air situation was shitty even by Nod standards.
The 'Barghest' (which I prefer to think of as the Banshee-bis because as far as I can tell it's a barely updated repeat model of the old Banshee) is something they had to frantically throw in the air to have something capable of countering the Apollo.
From our perspective the air situation was bad because GDI has the implicit expectation of air supremacy over pretty much any place it cares to flex its muscles, and we didn't have that. From Nod's perspective the air situation was always bad because GDI has air superiority almost all the time, they just live with it as best they can. There's probably some Noddie equivalent of Havoc who's such a beloved old warhorse that Kane tolerates his constant back-talk about how he should never have stood down the Banshee program.
Anyway, back on topic. As the Air Force actually starts encountering more Banshee-bis 'Barghest' air superiority fighters, which will almost certainly swat Orcas out of the sky even if we refit them and which are worryingly capable of responding to Apollos... they're gonna want to get killier. Any of the three programs is in some ways a counter to the Banshee-bis.
Airborne lasers mean we have a very reliable means of shooting them down if they don't notice us coming, or don't react in time, and with computer control and a bit of flexibility in the targeting optics we may even be able to pot them at longer ranges or while they're maneuvering. The ability to pull twenty-gee maneuvers in a dogfight may let you outrun a pilot's ability to lay a gun on you, and it may let you outturn a guided missile, but it sure as hell doesn't let you outturn a goddamn thermonuclear flashlight.
Quick-maneuvering missiles (Ace Combat fans will think QAAM) are more of a stopgap measure but they will help by bringing missile kill probabilities up markedly and letting us restore the existing air-to-air paradigm where long range engagement and electronics matter more than heroic ballsy pilots dogfighting in gun range. Since Nod has a larger population base than we do from which to draw its ace pilots, but a weaker overall military-industrial complex as a whole, we very much want the paradigm to be about the impersonal machinery of radar-guided warfare and NOT ballsy banzai ace pilots.
Wingman drones can very possibly match the Banshee-derived craft for maneuverability, and are hilariously expendable compared to actual trained pilots that Nod must spend precious resources equipping with some of the highest-end technology in their arsenal. The most hilarious option would be a wingman drone with a Gatling laser that just sticks on the enemy like white on rice and inflicts chip damage to the enemy aircraft a little at a time until it dies. Unstoppable, unshakable, and intimidating as fuckall.
Yeah, this is a good idea. This would let us mount more flexible ASAT defenses on the actual sensitive platforms that need work. That's important. This should be the first thing we do for Space Force... though frankly we may not do it any time soon because Military dice are tight and everyone's screaming at us.
Well, that settles which project we do first. Ablatives is more strongly desired (because the Ground Forces want to not die when shot with laser cannons more than they want machine guns for their tanks), and takes 1-2 less dice to complete. Let's throw a fuckton at it, knock it halfway up into Phase 3, and then proceed from there.
Probably unsurprising that the military wants more of what they already have and know will work, as opposed to new weapons that do the same thing marginally better than the existing tube artillery. On the other hand, I really DO think that in this general category we should slip in a die for Tube Artillery Development to explore our options, because improvement of the guns might make any given level of shell supply stretch farther.
If the guns are more accurate, we can get the same results while expending less shells.
If the guns are smaller-caliber, we can produce and transport vastly more shells for the same price and logistics footprint.
If the guns are physically lighter, that means more room for ammunition at the frontline and more ease of transporting them (especially by air), which in turn means fewer guns are actually required to cover the same frontage as long as Nod doesn't launch gigantic army-level attacks all along the front lines all at once, which usually isn't their style.
Meanwhile, MLRS and railgun munition diversification are good too. All these projects fall into the same general "big guns for the Army" role, of course. Notably we need progress on this front if we want to build more fortress towns and expand our operations in the Yellow Zones.
OK, the good news is that the Navy wants these as badly as we do, and they only cost 1 Capital Goods per. The bad news is oh God the Navy needs six of them. And they actually NEED all these, or at least most of them, for the Governors to serve their intended role. They need to surge a lot of these ships to fill out holes in their ranks. They can't possibly expect or even hope for us to finish all six in just 1-2 turns (the combined shipyard expansions are a project on the same scale as North Boston Phase 4, and with greater demands for energy and valuable machinery)... but they need us to get this done.
Fortunately we DO have enough short-term Capital Goods options that we don't HAVE to panic and delay all this until North Boston completes.
No hope of getting these actually out into the water any time soon, and frankly we can't spare enough dice for the Navy to do this along with all the Governor yards anyway.
Oh God how is this so energy-hungry compared to Governor yards...!? Probably due to mass production needs; we make a LOT of hydrofoils and we're not repurposing existing yards for them. I hope the Navy will understand if this gets delayed; the extreme Energy hunger of this project is kind of a big deal.
This, meanwhile, is a tragic casualty of the dice requirements.
Though if we aggressively commit to the Navy,
Bluntly, we can't afford to spend enough dice to do the Titan Mk III rollout and seriousface efforts on the Governor yards AND the stuff the Army and Air Force are begging for AND MARVs. We may have to walk back to 1 die/turn on Steel Talons projects and plink away, probably starting with the quick-firing Gatling laser since that has broad applications if integrated into existing platforms.
Military is badly overdue for this and Nod almost has to be trying to infiltrate them.
Important but not this-turn urgent. Can wait one more turn.
Can wait two more turns, while we build Political Support. These are projects we want to hit with all three dice at once, or not attempt at all.
Another reason is overflow we want 3 more deployments before we can resume glacier mining and ablative plating and the RWS are two of those by starting RWS with the minimum amount of dice it can complete with we can put another dice into it next turn if it fails and be glad it completed with three if it completes. if we wait till the turn we are planning on having all 3 deployments done we probably going to put a 4th dice on it to make sure we can start mining. Ablative does not have that issue as it is phased and we will do several phases more.
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[X] Plan Cap Goods, PS and Military
Infra 5/5 55R +15
-[X] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 2) 0/450 4 dice 40R 0%
-[X] Yellow Zone Arcologies (Phase 1) 136/170 1 die 97% 15R (High Priority)
HI 5/5 70R +18 (-2 for 8/8 due to graduates)
-[X] Fusion Peaker Plants 172/240 1 die 20R 66% (High Priority)
-[X] Heavy Rolling Stock Plants 171/250 2 dice 20R 96% (High Priority)
-[X] Kure Machine Works 0/280 2 dice 30 R 0% (High Priority)
LCI 4/4 + 1 dice 80R +15
-[X] Chemical Precursor Plants 36/200 2 dice 30R 34%
-[X] Personal Pharmaceuticals Plants 0/180 2 dice 30R 22% (High Priority)
-[X] Johannesburg Myomer Macrospinner (phase 1) 73/90 1 die 20R 100% (High Priority)
Agri 3/3 30R +15
-[X] State Operated Breweries 85/125 1 die 10R 91%
-[X] Perennial Aquaponics Bays 278/350 2 dice 20R 97%
Tiberium 5/5 70R +33 (-2 for 8/8 due to graduates)
-[X] Tiberium Prospecting Expeditions (Repeating) 2/200 3 dice 15R 91%
-[X] Improved Tiberium Containment Facilities Development 0/40 1 die 25R 100%
-[X] Hewlett-Gardener Method Development 0/40 1 die 30R 100%
Orbital 3/3 +1 dice 75R +15 (4 Fusion dice)
-[X] GDSS Shala (Phase 1) 0/90 3 dice 60R 99% (13% for phase 2)
-[X] Asteroid Belt Survey Probes 0/90 1 die 15R 41%
Services 4/4 20R +30
-[X] Game Development Studios 0/300 4 dice 20R 73%
Military 5/5 + 4 dice 140R +15
-[X] Security Review 1 dice
-[X] Reclaimator Hub Red Zone 7-North 49/105 1 die 20R 75%
-[X] Super MARV Reclaimator Fleet (YZ-5a) 88/210 2 dice 40R 72%
-[x] Ablat Plating Deployment (phase 2) 38/200 2 dice 20 R 36% (Very High Priority)
-[X] Governor Class Cruiser Shipyards (Hampton Roads) 0/200 3 dice 60R 59% (Very High Priority)
Bureau 3/3 +15
-[X] Security Reviews (Military) 2 dice DC 60 +1 Mil dice
-[X] Search For A Successor 1 dice
Free 6/6
1 LCI, 1 orbital, 4 Military
540/540
PS 50
What this plan focuses on is clearing out high priority projects where we can and for those with a sub 50% chance to finish this turn puts us in an easy position to finish them Q2, though some of them should finish this turn. It also goes heavy on PS gain with +10-15 expected (Shala should finish phase 1, and be fairly far into phase 2 with a chance to finish) which we need for the new bureau options.
I am also going for 2 dice on the marv fleet because we need the mitigation and we need the income badly and 1 dice is 9% compared to 72% for 2 dice. In addition we should be opening up the RZ-7 North MARV for work next turn and I want to throw 3 dice at that and not have to worry about the YZ-5a MARV given all the other spots we have to spend dice on mil. For a note- I had to cut both Superconductor and Chicago in order to free up resources to fit everything in (unless you are leaving multiple dice idle which is a bad idea since we need to clear projects out everywhere).
Of note-rough follow up mil for Q2 is:
RZ-7 N Super Marv 0/210 3 dice
Governor Shipyards 3 dice total (finish Hampton Roads and start a 2nd shipyard if Hampton does not finish this turn)
Ablat Phase 2 1 dice depending on if it finishes (if phase 2 finishes this turn put this towards another high priority mil project)
Stealth Disruptor System Development 0/40 1 dice
Rapid Fire Laser Weapons Development 0/40 1 dice
PS: +5 Perennial, +5 Shala Phase 1, possible +5 Shala Phase 2
Cap Goods: +2 Rolling Stock, possible +2 Chem processors (next turn should see Chem processors finish if they fail this turn as well as finishing Krue Works for another +2 Cap Good)
Cons Good: +4 Game Dev, +4 Breweries, possible +2 Personal Pharma Plants
Income: +5 Tiberium mining (91%), +15 Super MARV (72%)
+3 YZ Mit
As for why I am pushing on Mitigation? We are on a deadline and the more mitigation we add the more we extend that but unless we luck out on research rolls or Kane brings us the TCN we will eventually lose the Earth to tiberium and anyone not evacuated to space dies. To that end more mitigation extends how long we have to do that (or work towards TCN for that matter) since the more mitigation we get the more times we can pop scirin research
Infra 5/5 55R +15
-[X] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 2) 0/450 4 dice 40R 0%
-[X] Yellow Zone Arcologies (Phase 1) 136/170 1 die 97% 15R (High Priority)
HI 5/5 70R +18 (-2 for 8/8 due to graduates)
-[X] Fusion Peaker Plants 172/240 1 die 20R 66% (High Priority)
-[X] Heavy Rolling Stock Plants 171/250 2 dice 20R 96% (High Priority)
-[X] Kure Machine Works 0/280 2 dice 30 R 0% (High Priority)
LCI 4/4 + 1 dice 80R +15
-[X] Chemical Precursor Plants 36/200 2 dice 30R 34%
-[X] Personal Pharmaceuticals Plants 0/180 2 dice 30R 22% (High Priority)
-[X] Johannesburg Myomer Macrospinner (phase 1) 73/90 1 die 20R 100% (High Priority)
Agri 3/3 30R +15
-[X] State Operated Breweries 85/125 1 die 10R 91%
-[X] Perennial Aquaponics Bays 278/350 2 dice 20R 97%
Tiberium 5/5 70R +33 (-2 for 8/8 due to graduates)
-[X] Tiberium Prospecting Expeditions (Repeating) 2/200 3 dice 15R 91%
-[X] Improved Tiberium Containment Facilities Development 0/40 1 die 25R 100%
-[X] Hewlett-Gardener Method Development 0/40 1 die 30R 100%
Orbital 3/3 +1 dice 75R +15 (4 Fusion dice)
-[X] GDSS Shala (Phase 1) 0/90 3 dice 60R 99% (13% for phase 2)
-[X] Asteroid Belt Survey Probes 0/90 1 die 15R 41%
Services 4/4 20R +30
-[X] Game Development Studios 0/300 4 dice 20R 73%
Military 5/5 + 4 dice 140R +15
-[X] Security Review 1 dice
-[X] Reclaimator Hub Red Zone 7-North 49/105 1 die 20R 75%
-[X] Super MARV Reclaimator Fleet (YZ-5a) 88/210 2 dice 40R 72%
-[x] Ablat Plating Deployment (phase 2) 38/200 2 dice 20 R 36% (Very High Priority)
-[X] Governor Class Cruiser Shipyards (Hampton Roads) 0/200 3 dice 60R 59% (Very High Priority)
Bureau 3/3 +15
-[X] Security Reviews (Military) 2 dice DC 60 +1 Mil dice
-[X] Search For A Successor 1 dice
Free 6/6
1 LCI, 1 orbital, 4 Military
540/540
PS 50
What this plan focuses on is clearing out high priority projects where we can and for those with a sub 50% chance to finish this turn puts us in an easy position to finish them Q2, though some of them should finish this turn. It also goes heavy on PS gain with +10-15 expected (Shala should finish phase 1, and be fairly far into phase 2 with a chance to finish) which we need for the new bureau options.
I am also going for 2 dice on the marv fleet because we need the mitigation and we need the income badly and 1 dice is 9% compared to 72% for 2 dice. In addition we should be opening up the RZ-7 North MARV for work next turn and I want to throw 3 dice at that and not have to worry about the YZ-5a MARV given all the other spots we have to spend dice on mil. For a note- I had to cut both Superconductor and Chicago in order to free up resources to fit everything in (unless you are leaving multiple dice idle which is a bad idea since we need to clear projects out everywhere).
Of note-rough follow up mil for Q2 is:
RZ-7 N Super Marv 0/210 3 dice
Governor Shipyards 3 dice total (finish Hampton Roads and start a 2nd shipyard if Hampton does not finish this turn)
Ablat Phase 2 1 dice depending on if it finishes (if phase 2 finishes this turn put this towards another high priority mil project)
Stealth Disruptor System Development 0/40 1 dice
Rapid Fire Laser Weapons Development 0/40 1 dice
PS: +5 Perennial, +5 Shala Phase 1, possible +5 Shala Phase 2
Cap Goods: +2 Rolling Stock, possible +2 Chem processors (next turn should see Chem processors finish if they fail this turn as well as finishing Krue Works for another +2 Cap Good)
Cons Good: +4 Game Dev, +4 Breweries, possible +2 Personal Pharma Plants
Income: +5 Tiberium mining (91%), +15 Super MARV (72%)
+3 YZ Mit
As for why I am pushing on Mitigation? We are on a deadline and the more mitigation we add the more we extend that but unless we luck out on research rolls or Kane brings us the TCN we will eventually lose the Earth to tiberium and anyone not evacuated to space dies. To that end more mitigation extends how long we have to do that (or work towards TCN for that matter) since the more mitigation we get the more times we can pop scirin research
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[X] Plan Some Important Items Included
[X] Plan Cap Goods, PS and Military
It They has have tiberium storage and tiberium refinement. Those are the two things I'm most interested in right now.
[X] Plan Cap Goods, PS and Military
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- He/Him
[X] Plan Cap Goods, PS and Military
[X] Plan Capitally Urgent
Infrastructure (5 dice)
-[X] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 2), 4 dice (40 Resources)
-[X] Yellow Zone Arcologies (Phase 1), 1 die (15 Resources)
Heavy Industry (5 dice)
-[X] Fusion Peaker Plants, 1 die (20 Resources)
-[X] Heavy Rolling Stock Plants, 2 dice (20 Resources)
-[X] Kure Machine Works, 2 dice (30 Resources)
Light and Chemical Industry (4 dice)
-[X] Chemical Precursor Plants, 2 dice (30 Resources)
-[X] Johannesburg Myomer Macrospinner (Phase 1), 2 dice (40 Resources)
Agriculture (3 dice)
-[X] State Operated Breweries, 1 die (10 Resources)
-[X] Perennial Aquaponics Bays, 2 dice (20 Resources)
Tiberium (5 dice)
-[X] Tiberium Prospecting Expeditions (Repeating Phase), 3 dice (15 Resources)
-[X] Chicago Planned City (Phase 3), 1 die (20 Resources)
-[X] Hewlett-Gardener Method Development, 1 die (30 Resources)
Orbital (3 dice + 1 Free)
-[X] GDSS Enterprise (Phase 3), 3 dice (60 Resources)
-[X] Asteroid Belt Survey Probes, 1 die (15 Resources)
Services (4 dice)
-[X] Fashion Development Houses, 2 dice (20 Resources)
-[X] Game Development Studios, 2 dice (10 Resources)
Military (5 dice + 5 Free)
-[X] Reclamator Hub Red Zone 7 North, 1 die (20 Resources)
-[X] Reclamator Fleet YZ-5a, 1 die (20 Resources)
-[X] Zone Suit Factories (Oslo), 1 die (15 Resources)
-[X] Ablat Plating Deployment (Phase 2), 3 dice (30 Resources)
-[X] Governor Class Cruiser Shipyards (Yokohama), 3 dice (60 Resources)
-[X] Security Reviews (Military), 1 die
Bureaucracy (3 dice)
-[X] Security Reviews (Military), 2 dice
-[X] Search For A Successor, 1 die
Total cost: 540 Resources
Infrastructure (5 dice)
-[X] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 2), 4 dice (40 Resources)
-[X] Yellow Zone Arcologies (Phase 1), 1 die (15 Resources)
Heavy Industry (5 dice)
-[X] Fusion Peaker Plants, 1 die (20 Resources)
-[X] Heavy Rolling Stock Plants, 2 dice (20 Resources)
-[X] Kure Machine Works, 2 dice (30 Resources)
Light and Chemical Industry (4 dice)
-[X] Chemical Precursor Plants, 2 dice (30 Resources)
-[X] Johannesburg Myomer Macrospinner (Phase 1), 2 dice (40 Resources)
Agriculture (3 dice)
-[X] State Operated Breweries, 1 die (10 Resources)
-[X] Perennial Aquaponics Bays, 2 dice (20 Resources)
Tiberium (5 dice)
-[X] Tiberium Prospecting Expeditions (Repeating Phase), 3 dice (15 Resources)
-[X] Chicago Planned City (Phase 3), 1 die (20 Resources)
-[X] Hewlett-Gardener Method Development, 1 die (30 Resources)
Orbital (3 dice + 1 Free)
-[X] GDSS Enterprise (Phase 3), 3 dice (60 Resources)
-[X] Asteroid Belt Survey Probes, 1 die (15 Resources)
Services (4 dice)
-[X] Fashion Development Houses, 2 dice (20 Resources)
-[X] Game Development Studios, 2 dice (10 Resources)
Military (5 dice + 5 Free)
-[X] Reclamator Hub Red Zone 7 North, 1 die (20 Resources)
-[X] Reclamator Fleet YZ-5a, 1 die (20 Resources)
-[X] Zone Suit Factories (Oslo), 1 die (15 Resources)
-[X] Ablat Plating Deployment (Phase 2), 3 dice (30 Resources)
-[X] Governor Class Cruiser Shipyards (Yokohama), 3 dice (60 Resources)
-[X] Security Reviews (Military), 1 die
Bureaucracy (3 dice)
-[X] Security Reviews (Military), 2 dice
-[X] Search For A Successor, 1 die
Total cost: 540 Resources
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We have 540 resources and 6 free dice. Unless my math is wrong, your plan only spends 525 R and 5 free dice.
If we're going to invest in Enterprise for its space mining, we should do [] Inner System Survey Probes since the lead-time on finding those resources is multiple turns long.
Again, we're only going to have +4 Food after the Breweries complete, and this would bring that down to +1 Food. We shouldn't risk going back to rations; instead we should wait on this project until we have a bigger food surplus.
Each phase is double the progress of the previous phase. So it'll go:
Tokyo Phase 1 - 0/125
Tokyo Phase 2 - 0/250
Tokyo Phase 3 - 0/500
Tokyo Phase 4 - 0/1000