I'm sure if they haven't, their false religion will soon reach them. Though they'll probably not find a good foothold due to the deification of the current rulers.

I say, probably not. It's far more likely that they'd find out they've been found out if we tell anyone. Celestia can be far too trusting, this is early her.

The Changeling War is a silent one fought with information.
That's why I think we should encourage missionaries from the various religions to go to Equestria. It will be much harder for the Lady of the Lakes cult to gain influence if there are other religions already established in the area. Our situation is proof that competing faiths make a population much more resistant to the changlings' attempts at cultural subversion. Ideally this wouldn't be public knowledge so both the Equestrians and the changelings will assume it's just a natural outcome of our people interacting with theirs instead of something we deliberately made happen.
 
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I don't think that's necessary, it will happen naturally, especially now that there's an open trade route.
I'm just suggesting we encourage it to happen a little faster to hinder the changelings. If the Lady of the Lakes cult gets a foothold before other faiths then it could eventually become the dominant religion in Equestria. Keep in mind that the Equestrians didn't have any concept of organized religion before meeting us, so they might be far more vulnerable to that sort of culteral subversion than we were.
 
Keep in mind that the Equestrians didn't have any concept of organized religion before meeting us so they might be far more vulnerable to that sort of culteral subversion than we were.
It's funnier if they do like the Imperial Cultists and take ques to organize their deification into a true religion of The 2 Sisters and it takes off like wildfire.
I can see their religious token being a coin of day and night. Ofcourse then they'd also inevitably further split into the churches of Night and Day, and probably Twilight/Dusk as well.
This might get interesting...
 
It's funnier if they do like the Imperial Cultists and take ques to organize their deification into a true religion of The 2 Sisters and it takes off like wildfire.
I can see their religious token being a coin of day and night. Ofcourse then they'd also inevitably further split into the churches of Night and Day,and probably Twilight/Dusk as well.
This might get interesting...
Them making their own religion in response would also work, ultimately we just want to fill the void so the Lady of the Lakes cult won't be uncontested in the region.
 
That's why I think we should encourage missionaries from the various religions to go to Equestria. It will be much harder for the Lady of the Lakes cult to gain influence if there are other religions already established in the area. Our situation is proof that competing faiths make a population much more resistant to the changlings' attempts at cultural subversion. Ideally this wouldn't be public knowledge so both the Equestrians and the changelings will assume it's just a natural outcome of our people interacting with theirs instead of something we deliberately made happen.
Equestria has Alicorns who defeated Discord himself within their living memory, leading it. I presume any claim of actual divine guidance by Queen of Canterburry is gonna end with the conversations going something like this:

"So your deity guides your queen?"
"Yes."
"Is your 'goddess' an alicorn?"
"Um... No?"
"Is you Queen an alicorn?
"Well, no but-"
"How often does your goddess meet with your queen?"
"What? You don't just meet with a goddess?!"
"Why not? The princesses are always around?"
*Angry sputtering*
 
yeah the amount of respect and power the princesses have I doubt any religion other than the one directed at the two of them is going to do well in Equestria. Especially if it's common knowledge that they took down discord in their homeland. Even if the princesses wished otherwise.

Though I am curious to see how they react when the see that the king of the empire has a similar problem.
 
Celestia: ... Does it ever stop being awkward?
Garrick: No.
Luna: *Lounges in palaquin while sipping fruity drink with tiny umbrella* Will you two sad sacks getteth over it?
 
Ehhhhh
There's a certain level of magnitude involved. An Emperor/Empress can have kings/queens under their command, while generally speaking a King/Queen can't have an Emperor/Empress below them in the food chain.

If such a situation were to develop the King/Queen would likely be made the new Emperor/Empress over the combined territory.

The key thing is to keep in mind that an Empire can contain multiple nations. Though as time goes on there's a tendency for those distinctions to blur.
 
Ehhhhh
There's a certain level of magnitude involved. An Emperor/Empress can have kings/queens under their command, while generally speaking a King/Queen can't have an Emperor/Empress below them in the food chain.

If such a situation were to develop the King/Queen would likely be made the new Emperor/Empress over the combined territory.

The key thing is to keep in mind that an Empire can contain multiple nations. Though as time goes on there's a tendency for those distinctions to blur.
you're talking about a world were a princess is the absolute highest level of governmental authority. Title really don't mean diddly doo here.
 
you're talking about a world were a princess is the absolute highest level of governmental authority. Title really don't mean diddly doo here.

As long as Equestria is a single nation state there's a lot of leeway, I'm not sure but I think units as low ranked as baronies have been considered independent in the past, Wingbardy or the 12 cities for example.

Celestia and Luna could declare themselves Empresses of course and then add whatever levels of administrative division they felt appropriate between themselves and their territories in order to realize this concept, but they don't want to and have no significant pressure to do so.

Furthermore how are you defining the highest level of governmental authority? Because generally speaking that doesn't exist in a non-specializing Diarchy. Garrick, Rutherford, and Koryu are the Sovereigns of their empires, the sisters are both required to achieve ultimate authority within their domain, at least for now.


Speaking of Luna's future issues:

I wonder if she might do better roaming farther afield? Perhaps overseeing contact with the various other nations, or helping to arrange a larger diplomatic set up to allow for the various nations to more easily communicate with each other. Essentially she would be Equestria's field princess.

Yes it's inspired by the game faction omake where Luna was basically a roaming horde faction. I'm just translating that into a post unification wars setting.

Now normally we don't have that kind of control over the decisions of a foreign government, but I think we could nudge her in that direction with various projects, especially if we ran our plans for thestral immigration by her and just generally made her our point of contact.
 
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Are there Fey stand ins in MLP?
well, changelings ARE a type of Fey, aren't they? Shapeshifters feeding on love... I think there were stories/legends about them stealing children and taking their place, which would be a clever source of love.

There's also the Breezies, basically a mix of a pony and a dragonfly (dragonfly sized), living beyond some kind of portal, visiting Equestria once a year to... I think they gathered pollen for the winter, or something like that. They're VERY weak and fragile, with Pegasi basically forming a corridor of safe wind currents for them to go through I think. They only really appear in a single mlp episode.


Other than that, I'd argue that Discord, following somewhat alien morals and ethics, could count as well.
 
No, This would be one of Yewah's titles. King of king lord of lords.
A empire is a politic bodies than rule iver more than one nation. Griphus become a empire when the kingdom unifyed under garick's rule.
 
Sort of, the various components of the pre-Winter war gryphus empire never consolidated under the crown of griffonia. They're still distinct regions that swear fealty to the imperial crown. Similarly the protectorate is under imperial aegis, and will likely eventually become a normal province outright, but again under the imperial crown. For the most part this seems to work fine, and griffonia as a kingdom doesn't appear to take any especial focus or effort on our part beyond it's place in the empire. This may change in the future, and is one of the reasons I worry about our other kids having so much lower overall stats than Gawain. We may at some point need to have a separate administrator for griffonia specifically.
 
Just want to say that Principalities were a thing.
There are two principalities still in existence: the Principality of Liechtenstein, and the Principality of Andorra. Not all that important to your actual discussion. Just noticed you used past tense "were a thing" and wanted to give a bit of trivia! :D

Incidentally, Andorra is also the only monarchy with co-monarchs still in existence to my knowledge, a bit like Equestria with its two princesses. It is ruled by co-princes, those being the Bishop of Urgell and the President of France. The President of France being one of the co-princes of Andorra is due to how the Republican state had assumed all the duties, debts, and wealths of the feudal lords upon abolishing them. One of the feudal lords in Spain wanted to take control of Andorra away from the Bishop of Urgell so the bishop got another Spanish lord's protection. That Spanish lord's family later merged into one of the French county noble families and the French signed an agreement with the bishop for shared governance over Andorra as co-princes. Since the French state assumed control over noble responsibilities, being the co-Prince of Andorra automatically defaults to the current president in France.
 
Sort of, the various components of the pre-Winter war gryphus empire never consolidated under the crown of griffonia. They're still distinct regions that swear fealty to the imperial crown. Similarly the protectorate is under imperial aegis, and will likely eventually become a normal province outright, but again under the imperial crown. For the most part this seems to work fine, and griffonia as a kingdom doesn't appear to take any especial focus or effort on our part beyond it's place in the empire. This may change in the future, and is one of the reasons I worry about our other kids having so much lower overall stats than Gawain. We may at some point need to have a separate administrator for griffonia specifically.
Um they are still kids and kids don't usually have high stats you know? and why would a administrator be Needed?
 
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