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There is a general consensus about rebuilding Maretonia, the real question here is it's future status and how much we should put in this rebuilding based on that.
Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest
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There is a general consensus about rebuilding Maretonia, the real question here is it's future status and how much we should put in this rebuilding based on that.
Honestly, at this point its clear that if we need to keep running interference with the whole Olenia situation, it's because Neighpon wants a war. We can't keep handholding them each time they seeminly want to escalate, just focus on our matters for a change.
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Personally, I'm in favor of sending him to Maretonia as there he will have to do other things beside diplomacy which should give him a glimpse about running an empire and forgein relations, plus it will be major focus for us either way (integration, or not)
Everything else doesn't seem pressing to me, yes mission to Equestria was success but further approach can be handled by our diplo advisor and Garrick (it's fitting that after Crown Prince they meet Emperor) and it won't be something new for Gawain, or something that would bring him further glory . Emerald islands and Ollenia don't seem to be escalating anytime soon and can also be taken over by Diplo advisor and Garrick, plus if Neighpoon is seeking to expand there , we'll there's nothing we can,or should do as we ourselves are expanding our influence exponentially.
Meeting forgein leaders can wait, he will meet them eventually and he should focus more on home front. He had proven himself diplomatically, now he needs to expand on that and prove his skills in intrigue/economic challenge that is Maretonia.
...Thinking about the talk of Garrick's military accomplishments, I think he may end up being considered the first in a new breed of commander. One that doesn't lead from the front, in the thick of combat, but rather, a strategist/tactician that lets his achievements of command speak for him, only personally entering the field if deemed necessary...
Yeah that surprised me as well, a part of me wants to call it out as a retcon to stop us from just straight up annexing Libertalia since we already control like half of its economy
But there is a significant difference between relatively popular and being the man who founded the nation, started the industrial revolution, integrated several other species into the Empire, won three significant wars, established at least one Protectorate and is literally worshipped by some of his people
As much as I love Gawain there will inevitably be a fall in unity and popularity when Garrick steps down or dies
Honestly if anyone thinks that if Garrick were to retire he wouldn't spend the whole time stressing out about things then I don't know if we've been following the same character
Plus it's worth considering that the only reason we have a third Diplomacy action is because that's what Gawain is assigned to
To be fair the one time we've intervened so far it was Olenia threatening Neighpon
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My idea is to see what lies in the direction between Maretonia and Equestria. Linking a diplomacy/trade route between them might help. Likewise send our son down there for the difficult task of ensuring they don't split into three nations.
And hope that nation between them isn't dragon territory, but given their size they might get raided and be wary to new folks.
Found the Maps of Equestria. The monsters in Canteburry make a trade route that way difficult. But there is land between the three nations. Maybe need to set up a joint project.
And hope that nation between them isn't dragon territory, but given their size they might get raided and be wary to new folks.
Found the Maps of Equestria. The monsters in Canteburry make a trade route that way difficult. But there is land between the three nations. Maybe need to set up a joint project.
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Garrick is in many sense's an example of what modern ruler should be. Yes Celestia and Luna achieved great things with Discord and have Sun/Moon under their belts, but that is more stuff of heroes, not rulers. It's ultimately Gryphus that is leader in the world, be it militarily, or diplomatically despite it's lack of Magic, plus if things go certain way it could even be leader, or at least to paar in that regard which are all accomplishments of Garrick. Now that i think about it maybe just seeing Gryphus and meeting Garrick could lessen Luna's jealousy, having a ruler more popular and successful than Celestia (or at least more successful) could lessen her jealousy as Celestia won't be as perfect.
I find myself agreeing to this, Garrick is unquestionably unifying figure in Gryphus .
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I believe that that land is the Buffaloes and I don't think it would particularly benefit us to set up a trade route there unless Maretonia became a Protectorate
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...beg your pardon?
Where was Neighpon ever shown or even hinted at *wanting a war with Olenia*?
They were simply protecting their trade routes with the Emerald Dogs from Olenian pirates - nothign more.
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Probably the fact they are not openly hostile is another bonus.
What is it with this Obsession of SV-Questers to make Protagonists retire?
I mean, granted, Garrick is a Character I could actually see deciding to retire eventually, but still. It's just too early for that. He has so far in-Character shown no desire to lay down the Crown just yet. Give it a few more years or decades.
I mean, granted, Garrick is a Character I could actually see deciding to retire eventually, but still. It's just too early for that. He has so far in-Character shown no desire to lay down the Crown just yet. Give it a few more years or decades.
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Honestly I'd wait until Garrick gains the old trait before thinking about retiring him or some kind of even that would make since for him to step down or have his son step up.
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We should get Maretonia and Olenia introduced to each other so that they can trade. Both countries desperately need trading partners right now.
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Tbh I feel like we should give Gawain more... "blooding" in terms of some claim to fame or experience-wise. We've already given him diplomatic experience, we should get him some economic and directly martial accomplishments at least before we can even Think about retiring Garrick. Just so he doesnt overspecialize or get viewed as overspecialized.
My bet is developing Kestrella (Stewardship), the Yeti situation (Diplo AND Martial), and maybe the Canterbury changeling thing if we want some intrigue/diplo/steward depending on what the paths are. Idk about Learning but I really wish we could boost that.
My bet is developing Kestrella (Stewardship), the Yeti situation (Diplo AND Martial), and maybe the Canterbury changeling thing if we want some intrigue/diplo/steward depending on what the paths are. Idk about Learning but I really wish we could boost that.
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I read this title and thought it would be Olenia. Kind of sad that they aren't the ones known for sugar despite us setting up the sugar beets trade with them, but maybe give it a turn or two.
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It would likely be a good idea to check in with our fellow Leader before deciding that if that's actually what's going on.
Would be a solid idea to couple that with the Gifted Sword action.
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I kinda want to provide Government of Maretonia very big, low-interest, hundred-year-repayment loan for reconstruction.
Not to three powers that don't get along, not to abolitionists, but to whatever kind of government those three will decide for themselves.
Humanitarian aid would continue for a little while.
Not to three powers that don't get along, not to abolitionists, but to whatever kind of government those three will decide for themselves.
Humanitarian aid would continue for a little while.
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Definitely
Koryo needlessly antagonizing Olenia doesn´t sound like him at all anyway.
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Regarding Maretonia, before we think about introducing them we should consider that there is weary real chance of them becoming our protectorate.
Opposition to it within Maretonia isn't to big, population doesn't care, abolitionists love us and noble's are in our pocket. Even original Royal guard that was initially against it is gone with fall of Roam.
But nobility and elite of Neighpoon? That sounds more like it . But generally i don't think this is as much about Olenia as it's about securing Neighponese interests in Emerald Islands.
Opposition to it within Maretonia isn't to big, population doesn't care, abolitionists love us and noble's are in our pocket. Even original Royal guard that was initially against it is gone with fall of Roam.
But nobility and elite of Neighpoon? That sounds more like it . But generally i don't think this is as much about Olenia as it's about securing Neighponese interests in Emerald Islands.
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Do we even know what the Neighpon nobility and elite think of us as well?
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They probably don't view us as enemies, but probably want to emulate us and seek to expand their influence in similar way to us.
Though i believe that status of that city they leased from Crystal protectorate is rising a few eyebrows as integration of Crystal protectorate approaches, as that is about to break status quo there created with defeat of Sombra.
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It would be incredibly easy to just have GARRICK take Gawain's place and take care of that third diplo action.
After all, a former emperor would certainly be suitable to the position. It's less stressing on him, and it shows respect to whoever we send him to meet.
It's been 30 years and 3 wars, and Garrick is 56, which is an age at which he's likely to start feeling tired sooner that in the past.
He CAN continue, and probably has an easy 10 years on him yet... but I'd rather make it so that he can take it easier in his twilight years rather than having him die on the job.
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Actually, I asked Questor about this a while back and may I refer ya'll to the answer:
Basically, I think we've got that third diplomacy action slot for good unless shit changes, which I assume Questor will tell us if/when it happens. So really, we could safely reassign Gawain to get more experience in other departments without an action slot loss I think (and net that third action slot for em? Just a thought lol). Maybe even assign our other kids to the departments as well, and get even moar action slots. X3
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Mh.. we could probably put Gilda on diplomacy duty, and move Gawain to either stewardship or martial if needed.
Gleaming Pearl could go on stewardship, or just be assigned to the crystal protectorate region (maybe make her duchess?), especially if we outright annex it (and they're fine with it, but they should. I think she's fairly popular)
Gwindlyn still has adolescent status, but... What about asking Hardbeak to take her as a squire?
What better way to continue protecting the empire than to teach all he can to the future regent, that will live on for hundreds to thousands of years.