How would the Empire react to Pinkie
Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest
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Gawain, get ze flammenwerfer.
Oh boy that would encourage her more
Depends on the situation
The nobility would probably hate her, she might be more popular among the more adventurous and raucous people but her popularity would probably plummet during a situation like a war where people become a lot more serious
What about the others
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Honestly they'd probably be confused and not really sure what to think of us. Mostly because it would come down to how Questor said Equistra views harmony and how our empire views it. Where they think harmony is the natural order of things and chaos only seeps in when someone is there deliberately mess with things where our empire believes that chaos is the natural order of the world and harmony can only come when someone is there to tame the chaos. As ultimately both parties do have the same goals but the way they approach said goal is usually pretty different.
Twilight would probably be lost on how someone could try to achieve harmony in a way that differs from what she knows and would probably badger everyone around her to try and figure out who's right or wrong before probably making a friendship report about how people are different and won't always have the same ideas but this doesn't necessarily mean one party is right or wrong.
Rainbow Dash would probably think we're cool because we're not afraid to take action when needed.
Apple Jack would probably dislike us because we do some things in the shadows which would probably twist at her honest personality and the fact that she can be really damn stubborn when she wants to so she would probably dig her feet into the ground and believe the Equestrian way is not only the best way but the only way.
Fluttershy would probably dislike how "aggressive" the empire is and would probably wish we'd take more peaceful stance in the world but probably wouldn't challenge anyone about their opinions.
Rarity would probably disagree with the Empires more aggressive stance on the world believing it to be a bit brutish but could probably be won over if she finds some kind of fashion trend within the empire that would catch her eye
Pinkie Pie... well who the hell knows with her. She has at times shown herself to be the most understanding and other times the most oblivious of the main 6 so she would either just accept the empire as it is without much question or would try and find some way to win everyone over to make them see the world in a more Equestrian view. Either way it would probably be her braking the laws of reality as we know them and depending on why they came to the empire maybe throwing a party or two. Though if people from the empire where coming to Equestria then yeah she'd definitely throw a party no mater what.
….wow most of them would just hate us….at least the ones in our universe (Questor) will understand
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I don't think they would hate us per say, but just disagree strongly
Someone make an omake on this
Most of our people will probably have very bad opinions on Equistra if they ever tried to push their stuff on them since there is a lot of people that have lost there love ones actually now I think about it a lot could be violent towards them because the ponies don't stop pushing into very touchy and bad memories?
…yeah I definitely expect that possibly even to the point of asking their leaders to ban them from coming to the border
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I don't think they would come to try and change our views unless something popped up on the friendship map and if such a crossover did happen it would probably be an episode on culture shock or something about how different places have different believes and even though they can be similar it can be the small differences that are the most shocking and how everyone should be a bit more open minded as everyone views and experiences the world differently and blah blah blah it's a kids show trying to teach kids the moral message of don't be an asshole. Honestly I'd find it hard to believe equestrian and the empire would ever get into anything more serious then a Cold War with each other bearing some catastrophic event. Though I could see them talking shit about each other behind their backs.
I can only imagine the Bronies reaction to this
To be fair I do think that the Empire's open and unconditional acceptance of others regardless of race, nationality or religion and our willingness to provide aid to people would win us some support with them
Though our stance on nature, ie "kill it with fire", might lose us some with Fluttershy
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Well Equestria is also suppose to be like that as well and without the harder stance on their world view. Though I again I don't believe they would outright hate us or love us just be confused on how something so similar to their own beliefs can also be so different.
Though thinking about it a bit more if they did make a cross over episode I'd probably guess the reason they'd come over would be because Celestia is trying to train twilight on how to deal with foreign powers as the next princess of Equestria and figured the Griffin empire would be one of the best places to learn as it's similar enough to feel familiar yet different enough to be alien so she'd have footholds to ground herself with while still getting a feel for how to deal with different cultures and beliefs.
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I get the sense that Garrick would view Twilight Sparkle's Friendship in the same way a person living during the Industrial Revolution would view some time-traveler from the future talking about cold fusion: Sure, it SOUNDS impressive, and it's really cool that you have the infrastructure that make that work for you, but we need something that reliably works right NOW or else the factories don't run and families will freeze during the winter. Unless they've brought enough Elements of Harmony to share, Garrick isn't going to put his country's safety and prosperity in an untested energy source when claw and steel have been what gets the job done up to this point.
To be fair I don't think they'd be going around and deducing points from us for being similar to Equestria
Plus afaik Equestria doesn't actually have that much diversity so we should have them beat there at the very least
I mean, if someone could provide actual proof of the theory there's a decent chance we'd invest in it
But yes, most likely Garrick and most Imperials would see Twilight as extraordinarily naive at best and completely deluded at worst
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Honestly, as long as things don´t get fucky enough to allow/force Equestria to go full-on TCB, our two polities should be able to look past each other kinks.
Some of you guys seem to look at feudal states with a to modern viewpoint. Patriotism and nationalism is not really a thing in a feudal monarchy and with most of the stronger contenders either dead, weakend or on our side it should not be too difficult to integrate at least parts of the nation as a protectorate, vassals or simply fully annex them.
I don't think most of them would hate us but most of them would have very mixed feelings about us.
Twilight would probably be somewhat conflicted on what stance to take because while we share many of the same goals we use very different means to achieve them due to opposing world views. She would probably be more accepting once she realised why those differences exist.
Applejack would admire the work ethic of the average imperial citizen but would consider the royal family untrustworthy if she learned of the dishonest means we sometimes employ to protect our people.
Rarity would admire our generousity towards both our own people and our neighbors but would find our militancy brutish.
Rainbow Dash would think that our militant honor culture was cool and find the war stories exciting but might be less enthusiastic about it when she finds out how many people died in those wars.
Pinkie Pie and Spike would probably both be ok with us since they're both open minded and have had positive experiences dealing individuals from radically different cultures. Spike was one of the first to befriend Thorax and Pinkie managed to befriend the Yaks in the OTL.
The only one that would have a strong dislike of the empire as a whole would be Fluttershy who would be horrified by our desire to completely dominate nature and change it to better suit us instead of finding some way to live in harmony with it.
So I think one would would have a strong dislike of us (I don't think she'd outright hate us), one would like us (two if you count Spike), the other four would be either neutral or only slightly positive due to their concerns.
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I think it's worth noting that Rainbow Dash wouldn't exactly hold the casualties against us since we've been the good guys every time and with her whole thing being loyalty I think she'd admire how loyal our people are to the royal family, and each other,
Though there may be a bit of a tossup over our command style. Don't know enough to say either way how miss dash may take the command style of Garrick Golden-Feather.
Good point, I guess she'd be ok with us then. Now that I think about it Twilight probably would too once she recovered from the initial culture shock and looked into our history.
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and then we remind her of all the secrets CELESTIA kept.
like the SMILE secret service (BonBon/Sweetie Drops was a secret agent), how she basically allowed Luna to be forgotten (and arguably most villains too, though that might not be her fault), how THE WHOLE SENDING TWILIGHT TO PONYVILLE was based on a "white lie" of Nightmare Moon not being real...
Funny enough Fluttershy basically tamed all of her animals. This goes back to how, to a gryphon, what the Equestrians do is basically "enslave/heavily regulate nature" in a way even WE just never managed to (...yet...).
I think even Applejack would come around once you show the hypocrisy of holding us to higher standards that she does her princesses (as they DEFINITELY keep multiple secrets and have AT LEAST one secret organization).
She'd be stubborn, and initially deny it... I think Celestia would later on admit that, sometimes, heads of state just HAVE to lie and do distasteful things in order to minimize casualties and suffering. We could easily point out to how we basically "freed/kidnapped" the slaves in a series of deniable ops, for example. or even to how we're trying to deal with the changelings in a way that will NOT Result in calls for genocide.
Fluttershy... I don't know. She's the strangest mix of "soft" and "hardcore". I don't think she's actually as naive as she sometimes seems, so I'd like to think she'd undestand the necessity of many of the things we do, even if she wouldn't like them.
Hmm somehow I think as time goes on the Griffin empire might be idolize as the most noblest kingdom in the world making others want to go there even equestria might worship it