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Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest

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Adhoc vote count started by Questor on Sep 19, 2021 at 4:51 PM, finished with 249 posts and 59 votes.
  • [X] Plan: The Great Big Mare-a-thon Fireball
    -[x] Let the dragons go to the city unimpeded and wait for them to be in the city limits, properly battling the defenders.
    -[x] While both sides are distracted, have your forces start prepping several barrels of explosive powder to be rigged to explode. Several of which are to be filled with various metal objects to create shrapnel.
    -[x] When all dragons are battling House Storm, have your forces' mages scry the battlefield and see where the dragon forces are and where the most dense House Storm forces are.
    -[x] Once this information is acquired, begin lighting the explosive barrels and have your mages teleport them to the location of the enemy.
    --[x] If the dragons seem to be more resistant to the explosives, then focus on them more in the subsequent bombings to ensure they are more weakened.
    -[x] Once the explosives are detonated, repeat the process a few more times, then wait for the fighting in the city to die down before your forces are sent into attack in force.
    [X] They Shall Pass
    [X] Plan: Clip Their Wings v2
    -[X] Objectives: Neutralize newly introduced Draconic forces, maintain Siege
    --[X] While it is hypothetically possible that these Armored Dragons could be potential Allies and reasoned with, they've already killed some of our men so we're not standing for that.
    -[X] Magic users will be split into three groups, Weather Specialists, Illusionists/Protectors, Amplifiers
    --[X] Weather Specialists will focus on manipulating air pressure and temperature to drag down the Dragons into range of our artillery. If the air below them is a much lower pressure than the air above them, the air will push very strongly downwards on the Dragons, making flying immensely difficult and hopefully drag them down towards us. If we can ice over their wings that should also create quite a few complications.
    ---[X] If the "Relief" Forces are caught up in the pull, then it really sucks to be them.
    --[X] Illusionists/Shield Specialists/Fire Specialists will be on stand by to attempt to magically intercede in Draconic action to disrupt attacks and limit lives lost, through sense manipulation, shield blocking, or attempting to redirect or just plain limit fires.
    --[X] Amplifiers will work with cannon crews to enhance cannon fire, through increased shot velocity or other means.
    -[X] Cannons in area will load Scattershot while waiting for Dragons to enter range. General objective will be to injure their wings enough that the opposition force will not be able to fly until after healing has been received. If ineffective or if the Dragons have been clipped, switch to Solid Shot.
    -[X] Knights will assume Dragon Slaying Taskforces and be on hand to intercept if the Dragons aggress towards our men. Godspeed you madmen.
    -[X] Normal Troops will get out of the way of the giant flying fire breathing lizards and besides the usual detachments to protect Artillery and the like, will focus on maintaining the siege.
    -[X] Assuming this all actually works, with the Magic attempts actually dragging the Dragons into range, the Cannons being effective against Dragons, and the Dragons being grounded and caught within a crossfire of artillery such that they are beat to the ground, one request for Surrender will be made. If not accepted, we tried.
    -[X] In the event that we don't manage to drag the Dragons into cannon range and they go on to Mare-A-Thon instead of pivoting to attack us, commence with The Great Big Mare-a-thon Fireball.
    [X] Southern Wall Siege
    [X] Southern Wall Siege: While an...unexpected development, this does not change the overall plan. A siege means no one is permitted to enter or exit the besieged city, and you intend to enforce that rule. Instruct the Southern Division to engage both the tattered remnants of Pegicles' relief force and the pursuing dragons, with the Eastern and Western divisions contributing some of their own forces to the fight if necessary. Once the threat has been dealt with, the siege will continue as it had before.
    [X]Have Unicorns ready: It would be wise to have our mages prepare a shield ahead of time for when they pass.
    [X] Plan: Clip Their Wings
    [X] They Shall Pass
    -[X]Have Unicorns ready: It would be wise to have our mages prepare a shield ahead of time for when they pass.
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Alright, vote seems to be fairly clear. The Empire will once again shows its love of high explosive problem solving.

Vote Called.
 
Saotome Nakazawa said:
What about civilian casualties, or giving the enemy a chance or a message to surrender
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For the former they're literally unavoidable in a siege where we've been dropping bombs and the vast majorly of people will see it as an unfortunate pride that had to be paid for ending this awful war and as for the latter, we've been here for days and they could have surrendered at any point prior to this though Pegicles probably wouldn't let them
 
KingElessar said:
Quick question are the Crystal Knights and Diamond Dog knights serving in the campaign or were they left at home?
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Diamond Dog Knights are incorporated into the Knightly Orders and are included in their total number count. The Order of Crystal Guardians, for a variety of reasons both practical and political, were tasked with securing the army's line of supply and acting as a rear guard to the main force. While acting in support of the campaign, they are not currently available for frontline combat or to assist with the siege.
 
Saotome Nakazawa said:
What about civilian casualties, or giving the enemy a chance or a message to surrender
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We've been sieging them for days, if they wanted to surrender they would have already. Also the tactics we've been using so far suggests that most of us, myself included, value the lives of our own troops and those of our allies more than the lives of civilians we're not responsible for. It might sound cruel but, if someone has to die I'd rather it be their people than ours.
 
AthetosAdmech said:
We've been sieging them for days, if they wanted to surrender they would have already. Also the tactics we've been using so far suggests that most of us, myself included, value the lives of our own troops and those of our allies more than the lives of civilians we're not responsible for. It might sound cruel but, if someone has to die I'd rather it be their people than ours.
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Though more likely, the threshold is whenever the defenders would try and off their leader so they could surrender...
 
AthetosAdmech said:
We've been sieging them for days, if they wanted to surrender they would have already. Also the tactics we've been using so far suggests that most of us, myself included, value the lives of our own troops and those of our allies more than the lives of civilians we're not responsible for. It might sound cruel but, if someone has to die I'd rather it be their people than ours.
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we're, after all, fighting a war with no rules against someone who has no qualms hiding behind his civilians, burning fields he can't control, or unleashing WMDs.

We'll avoid unnecessary casualties, especially if they surrender, but we just can't afford being too soft. Not once a war actually started.

We can be "softer" at the diplomatic table, both before and after, and gracious in victory... but we can't compromise our army's operations by allowing the enemy to use their civilians as effective shields/hostages.
 
Themarineguy said:
Though more likely, the threshold is whenever the defenders would try and off their leader so they could surrender...
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Not saying we shouldn't accept a surrender. I'm just saying that, based on the winning votes so far, most of us are probably not going to limit our options out of concern for civilians in a foreign nation that we are at war with. We'll try to help them when the fight is over but until then our own people's safety is more important.
 
AthetosAdmech said:
Not saying we shouldn't accept a surrender. I'm just saying that, based on the winning votes so far, most of us are probably not going to limit our options out of concern for civilians in a foreign nation that we are at war with. We'll try to help them when the fight is over but until then our own people's safety is more important.
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which is completely fair, really.

There's not international agreement/treaty on what's allowed in war and what's not, and even if there was our current enemies would likely ignore them.

We won't be needlessly cruel, so no "rape and pillage"... but we just can't afford to sacrifice our effectiveness for the wellbeing of people who are, currently, our enemies.

The MOMENT they surrender, we'll help. We'll likely help them rebuild too, no matter if we actually annex them or not (though obviously there would be MORE help if they were annexed), but you can't win a war by avoiding every distasteful action. It just doesn't work that way.
 
I just thought of this, but has anyone else considered the possibility that the delaying tactic down where the Ursa was butchered was an attempt to buy time for recruiting dragon mercenaries which backfired?
 
Somebodynobody10 said:
I just thought of this, but has anyone else considered the possibility that the delaying tactic down where the Ursa was butchered was an attempt to buy time for recruiting dragon mercenaries which backfired?
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Somebodynobody10 said:
I think they are neighbors that Pegicles planned on enlisting as mercs, but crit-failed his negotiation rolls.
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I assume the plan was to send a guy from the camp to alert Pegicles that we were coming, but also assumed that the Ursa Major would either deal with us or severely weaken us in the process. Then Pegicles sent a messenger to have his relief force show up to pincer us. Unfortunately, his relief forces either were ambushed by the dragons on their way to Mare-a-thon or they had the unfortunate luck to run into the dragons while they were attacking some place else.

Given that we know, OOC, that the dragons just attacked the nation because they noticed the civil war, I think this is the most likely scenario.
 
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