Is it okay to keep Maretonians in Little Maretonia enclaves?

I kinda worry about them later turning into Chinatown analogues - impossible to dismantle and regulate...
 
Is it okay to keep Maretonians in Little Maretonia enclaves?

I kinda worry about them later turning into Chinatown analogues - impossible to dismantle and regulate...
Some kind of regulations should be placed, but no need to outright dismantle such areas methinks.



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I want to create a small omake depicting a small part of the negotiations. Can you wait writing the update a tad, @Questor?
 
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Yep, we should not wipe it out, but we should not encourage the isolation it may encourage. Get people from outside to explore it, and vice versa. We don't want china-towns where some who live there could not feasibly live outside of that area due to something like never bothering with working to close the language gap.
 
Breadbasket of the World: With the recent advances in agricultural techniques pioneered by Archimedes, Genevieve and the arcane scholars in the Imperial Court, the numerous land reclamation efforts undertaken by the government, and the introduction of Earth Pony magic to the Empire, the nation's agricultural output has skyrocketed to previously unimaginable levels. Average national crop yields have nearly quadrupled over the course of the past decade, far exceeding population growth and causing a corresponding drop in food prices, further feeding the population boom that began in the aftermath of Discord's disappearance.



The Empire's agricultural productivity is such that it has begun to export foodstuffs by the ton to its neighbors and trade partners, Gryphus-grown produce finding its way onto the plates of Yaks, Qilin, Minotaurs, and the Ponies of Canterbury, further swelling the Imperial coffers as foreign funds flow into the economy. +250 Trade Income

ALL HAIL THE MERCHANT EMPEROR!
Little Maretonia: The steady influx of thousands of Maretonian refugees entering the Empire in general and the Crystal Protectorate in particular over the past few years has resulted in the establishment and rapid growth of ethnic enclaves in several major cities, the largest of which exists in the Crystal City. While the formation of such neighborhoods provides the refugees with a sense of community and familiarity, questions and concerns have been raised regarding how the Ponies living within these neighborhoods cling to the culture of their original homeland. Others see the ethnic enclaves as little different from the numerous underground settlements established by Diamond Dogs that exist parallel to many cities in the Empire, and accuse the critics of the newly formed Maretonian neighborhoods of xenophobia.

eh, the only thing we really object about Maretonian culture is slavery. As long as they pay their taxes they're free to do most of what they want to.


Vikings vs Samurai: The attention of the Imperial Public is suddenly drawn away from the events unfolding South of the border and towards the Emerald Isles as the long anticipated showdown between the Qilin and Caribou finally occurs. In a series of events that will come to be known as the Labsfarne Skirmish, a small flotilla of Vikinger vessels, intent on raiding the Western coast of the Emerald Isles and relieving it of its newly acquired wealth, clashed with a Neighponese Patrol. Neighponese officials have stated that the Caribou vessels refused to turn back or adjust their course despite numerous warnings, culminating in an attempt by what has been surmised to be the lead ship in the raiding party attempting to ram one of the Neighponese ships.


A Neighponese "Turtle-Ship", similar to one used in the battle.

The resulting naval battle was as swift and brutal as it was one-sided, ending with the sinking or incineration of all Caribou ships and the capture of the few surviving would be raiders, who are now being held by the Neighponese government as pirates. Casualties amongst the Qilin sailors were limited to half a dozen wounded and largely cosmetic damage to two of their ships. As of now, there has been no response or official statement regarding the event from the Jarls of the Caribou Kingdoms, though the Alphas of the Emerald Isles have officially expressed their gratitude for the Neighponese intervention. Time will tell what the consequences of this event will be, and what effect this will have on the region.

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Is it okay to keep Maretonians in Little Maretonia enclaves?

I kinda worry about them later turning into Chinatown analogues - impossible to dismantle and regulate...
Some kind of regulations should be placed, but no need to outright dismantle such areas methinks.



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I want to create a small omake depicting a small part of the negotiations. Can you wait writing the update a tad, @Questor?
Yep, we should not wipe it out, but we should not encourage the isolation it may encourage. Get people from outside to explore it, and vice versa. We don't want china-towns where some who live there could not feasibly live outside of that area due to something like never bothering with working to close the language gap.

We should definitely install at least some monitoring and/or cultural intermingling, even if only for the beginning.

It´s basically the same as with the Diamond Dogs way at the beginning of this quest. Sure, the mingling went well to the point that both them and Gryphons almost instantly came to see each other as one people, but only becacuse we made sure to formalize it.

As for Maretonian culture, we should make sure that their latent inter-tribal hostilities (Unicorns vs. Earthens vs. Pegasi) don´t get outta control...Remember, most Maretonian pony slaves are Earthens, so there might be lingering factionalism.
 
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So should we start making some defenses from any Caribous that decides to try and raid us, cause we mostly have defenses for land but nothing for Air and Sea attacks.
 
Omake: Straightforward Words (Canon)
Omake: Straightforward words (Summit of Roam omake)

Negotiations don't happen in seconds. Most agreements aren't struck down or accepted after a single hour of debate.
It's because of this that there are many breaks and rest periods, designed to calm the different parties and give them moments to digest the arguments and details thrown during the periods of actual work.

At the start of one of such breaks, Gawain finally took a particular action he had been considering, ever since he realized the distrust and exhaustion plaguing Marecinas.

"May we share a few words before we leave to rest? Outside of the negotiation table, that is."

Marecinas calculating stare was cold, but be it his own, steady gaze or her curiosity, she finally nodded and motioned to the side of the large room. Far away from others, but still clearly in the line of sight of many Royal Guards and Gawain's own escorts on duty.
As they reached the room's corner, the mare turned and nodded without saying a word.

Gawain took a moment to gather his thoughts.

"You are always looking at what we will gain from all this. Searching for the hidden dagger - the fine print in the loan contract.
You're right, we do have something to gain."

Marecinas eyebrows rose but a small smidgen. A lesser diplomat might not have noticed, but Gawain had the skill to note it.

"We want a Maretonia that we can coexist with.
The slavery aspect... we both now that if Maretonia keeps going as normal after the war, even if we kept out of the civil war ourselves, we would just find conflict later on anyway.
Let's not lie to each other over that."

"But there's a matter I feel you've plausibly not taken note of.
This - all of this.
It doesn't need to be a zero-sum game."

Marecinas's stare turned hard, frigid.
"That's what most say, before taking more than they are giving. "

Gawain's face drops a smidgen, showing a small, intentional window of shared pain.

"We both know that from experience, Captain-General.
May I speak of a common sayings?"

Marecinas, her eyes drooping as he was expecting another 'hilarious' nobleborn's quip, nodded slightly.

"The original saying goes like this:"

"Give a griffon a fish, you will feed him for day.
Teach a griffon to fish, you will feed him for a lifetime."

"Basic. Normal.
My family has another take on that: "

"You take someone's fish, you feed yourself for a day.
You teach someone to fish three times better, one third fill find itself on your plate."

As Gawain turns to follow his already departing staff, he gives Marecinas a last quip:

"We don't want to raze your fields of grain, Captain-General.
We want to help you reap higher yields, with what you already have."

"If that is still selfish... well, I'll say it's still an improvement."

Marecinas left the room a minute later, still in thought.

@Questor
 
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Hmm... if this does escalate to a full war should we help them? Maretonia isn't likely to need us to invade at this point and if it does it will be more a land battle then a navy one. We could definitely send some ships to help them, they were technically attack and we do have a defensive pact.

we could easily send them ALL our ships really, it's not like we're using them for much... but we probably won't need to.

The Caribou are NOT united, so they won't coordinate, and after a jarl or two gets a humiliating defeat it's likely the other ones will take advantage of it in their motherland.
 
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