Guys we have a cities worth off acceptable targets to make an example of. The pirates can even help us pay for the ransom.
To really make sure they get the message place the decapitated pirate heads over the meat (don't eat actual pony meat).
[X] Pay Any Cost
vote is closed, bear any burden won.
Not to mention any anti slavery actions we take will only accelerate the Civil war. Not to mention that if we make them desperate enough some greedy Nobel might try to take things into his/her hooves and launch an expedition to obtain more "merchandise".I still don't think avoiding war is a good thing. So we get our own citizens back but let slavery continue unimpeded in Maretonia? That's hardly acceptable. Also, Maretonia would probably get into a civil war anyway if a future king or queen tried to abolish slavery but the nobility opposed it.
Ah, soon to be divided, soon to be conquered!Not to mention any anti slavery actions we take will only accelerate the Civil war. Not to mention that if we make them desperate enough some greedy Nobel might try to take things into his/her hooves and launch an expedition to obtain more "merchandise".
That doesn't require giving them the money by any means, and could easily empower those nobles too much- legitimizing their games while also taking away their cases belli of an overreaching monarch because said Monarch just appeased them.I was hoping to inspire the obviously rebellious guys into civil war against their queen using our awesome intrigue and perhaps diplomacy and coming in to conquer them once they've torn apart the country in it.
After all, it's not just these particular griffon owning nobles we have issues with, it's the entire ruling class, including their cutie of a queen.
Yes, because we literally just carved through hundreds of thousands of various ponies who couldn't break, had no fear, and had actual eldritch horrors supporting them. Maretonia doesn't even begin to compare to Sombra's war machine and nothing about basic Unicorn magic remotely thinks it'll stop those slave conscripts or mercenaries from fleeing in horror when our flamethrowers turn on them. Or as we turn landscapes into hellish killing fields with mines and artillery due to our absurd sappers.gambling on a war with people who can control the weather and have tens of thousands of magically capable unicorns also sounds like a terrible idea.
Honestly I want the civil war to happen sooner rather then later and either move in when both sides are weak or support the slave resistance and see if we can't put their leader in charge if we don't want to get directly involved.
That doesn't require giving them the money by any means, and could easily empower those nobles too much- legitimizing their games while also taking away their cases belli of an overreaching monarch because said Monarch just appeased them.
Yes, because we literally just carved through hundreds of thousands of various ponies who couldn't break, had no fear, and had actual eldritch horrors supporting them. Maretonia doesn't even begin to compare to Sombra's war machine and nothing about basic Unicorn magic remotely thinks it'll stop those slave conscripts or mercenaries from fleeing in horror when our flamethrowers turn on them. Or as we turn landscapes into hellish killing fields with mines and artillery due to our absurd sappers.
I'm looking at what we actually know rather than fearful conjecture about unicorns and unlimited weather magic when we know how they fight. Shitty slave levies, knightly orders, and mercenaries backed by some war wizards.
Slave levies are going to be pathetic considering Sombra's slave soldiers would be superior in almost any way and theirs are liable to break or defect in the face of a professional and blooded military that will spare them at the slightest surrender.
Mercenaries aren't going to be nearly as committed as our professional soldiers who consider slavery nearly blasphemous after Sombra, can potentially be bought, and are going to be unwilling to fight any battle that seems too unwinnable.
Their knights are likely going to be of solid quality, but we're liable to roll out Black Steel sooner than later and our knights almost certainly have more experience considering Sombra and our society is far more meritocratic than theirs.
As for their war wizards, we have a fair amount of heroes with magic killing gear, can likely hire on some of Neighpon's magic users to supplement our forces, and have a military that is somewhat used to horrific battlefield scale magic.
I'm absolutely willing to take this fight knowing that it'll take time to come to grips with the enemy either way.
Yes, he possesses the ancient and blessed invisible Armor of Plot. Said to have been kissed by the angels of Dice and polished with a gallon of four-leaf clover extract.Set Hardbeak on them! Show them how little their magic matters. I really hope hardbeak has some kind of bonuses because of all the crazy Shit he's done
Cut off his horn its the one thing that makes him "better" then all other species then we can cut off his tail to be extra meanSo what should we do with the Ambassador in order to show that we mean business?
Let's not mutilate the foreign diplomats, since that could be seen as a declaration of war.Cut of his horn its the one thing that makes him "better" then all other species then we can cut off his tail to be extra mean
Votes closed mate
This is the course that would let us continue our "incidental imperialism" streak, as we could extract some mighty concessions if it is our military that keeps the monarch in power. Not vassalizing of course, but useful nonetheless and would probably kick us up to Great Power status in terms of Prestige.Honestly I want the civil war to happen sooner rather then later and either move in when both sides are weak
Garrick: "Whoops, there goes your independence. Sorry! You... you wanna be our vassal? We have tons of cool tax rates and industry!"This is the course that would let us continue our "incidental imperialism" streak, as we could extract some mighty concessions if it is our military that keeps the monarch in power. Not vassalizing of course, but useful nonetheless and would probably kick us up to Great Power status in terms of Prestige.
Hence "incidental". Not like we are picking fights with the intention of subduing nations. Still, we do what is best for the Empire...
"The things I do for the stability of the realm..."Hence "incidental". Not like we are picking fights with the intention of subduing nations. Still, we do what is best for the Empire...
This is the course that would let us continue our "incidental imperialism" streak, as we could extract some mighty concessions if it is our military that keeps the monarch in power. Not vassalizing of course, but useful nonetheless and would probably kick us up to Great Power status in terms of Prestige.
Same, which is why I was for injecting a large amount of funds into the pockets of the rebellious nobles. But seems we're likely to strike them all at once more likely.