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Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest

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I want war, but I also know the value of patience.

Burn the pirate haven to the ground, put the people there either in a noose or a watery grave, whichever is cheaper, and then, after some build up and preparation, sail a ship into port to "kindly" ask the kingdom where the hell our citizenry is.

If peace talks break down from there teach them the meaning of the word blitzkrieg.
 
I agree with holding off any aggressive action with the new kingdom until we exhaust all diplomatic possibly intrigue too options. The pirates are free game however we just need to build up our navy with our new ships and have a joint navel operation with Neighpon maybe see if we can get Ravenberg to send agents to get intel on the pirate haven get their numbers and any leaders among them
 
This is how i propose we proceed with our new neighbor to the south, we ask them for our people back possibly paying for them if necessary to avoid bloodshed then once we have them back we tell them that should they attempt to enslave any of our citizens including the crystal ponies we shall come down on them with the full might of our military until their lands are burned to ashes to the point where the crystal empire looks hospitable. Other then that we would love to have peaceful relations with you.
 
Evaunit02mark1 said:
If peace talks break down from there teach them the meaning of the word blitzkrieg.
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Eh... That's not how warfare actually works in this era. For one our army isn't fully airmobile anymore, and anything we can accomplish on the wing is, effectively, the work of bandits.

Although I'll grant you mere "walls" won't be effective against us due to cannon, wing, and claw. When the time comes.
 
Ericwinter said:
We don't, of course, have to go straight for the attack--except against the pirates--but it would be best to at least start preparing, if for no other reason than that slave states are always hungering for more fodder, and our Protectorate shares a border with them.
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Again we know nothing about these people and there is a very good chance our people are not even in the Kingdom anymore it is likely the sold them off to other people. Trying to force anything will lead to a war which we can not afford. Not only would it be too far through the Crystal Empire which is still barren wasteland and will be for a long time which means our supply lines are going to be long and slow. The only place the ponies are at is the city and the local area around it which have our forces defending it so they are not in any danger.
 
People keep talking about needing to invade Maretania.

Do people not realize we only need to invade Libertania (to knock out a haven of scum and villainy) and then do one thing that will cause all port cities in their little corner scream in agony?

Blockade their ports.
ALL OF THEM.

No trade, no fishing, not even a rowboat will be allowed to escape.
 
Adventwolf said:
Again we know nothing about these people and there is a very good chance our people are not even in the Kingdom anymore it is likely the sold them off to other people. Trying to force anything will lead to a war which we can not afford. Not only would it be too far through the Crystal Empire which is still barren wasteland and will be for a long time which means our supply lines are going to be long and slow. The only place the ponies are at is the city and the local area around it which have our forces defending it so they are not in any danger.
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What I'm saying is to build defences and start throwing everything we have at repairing the Crystal Empire, which we were going to do anyways. We don't have to force a war at all, because much like Sombra, they will come to us. It's what Slavers do, regardless of how kindly they might treat their "property". You can't run an economy without constantly drawing new resources.
 
Raptor580 said:
@Questor do we know what races inhabit the new empire to the south?
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Horses are the races. The pirates are from the kingdom they are just outcasts that is why no one is going to care if we kill them off. So that is what we should do go kill off that island have the Neighpon settle it and have the both of us conduct anti-pirate patrols in the area. Capture and execute all those that practice piracy that will send a clear message that fucking with us is not a smart idea.
 
So we're diplomancig the south guys, sending in the spies, razing some pirates, and moving the peregine line south?

And all the while we throw ourselves into buildup and preparation in case diplomacy and intrigue fails?

Ah, and if they get pushy and keep so much as a single slave of our people or those of our allies no matter what diplomacy and intrigue we pull we prepare for war and start rallying the people to end them?
 
Keani said:
So we're diplomancig the south guys, sending in the spies, razing some pirates, and moving the peregine line south?

And all the while we throw ourselves into buildup and preparation in case diplomacy and intrigue fails?

Ah, and if they get pushy and keep so much as a single slave of our people or those of our allies no matter what diplomacy and intrigue we pull we prepare for war and start rallying the people to end them?
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Pretty much sums it up.
 
I feel that we should build up our navy next turn and just start convoying all our ships and learn all we can about this pirate haven and the new country and when our fleet is large enough crush the pirates and open diplomatic talks with the new nation and see where they stand.
 
Big whoop, some of our people got enslaved, we have more shit to deal with first, like the war of cleansing we're fighting, and the Yak civil war about to pop. And now you guys want to launch a war against two nations we have just about no information on? While they have magic to boot? At least wait until we open diplomatic channels and launch some intrigue actions before you go declaring jihad.
 
Keani said:
So we're diplomancig the south guys, sending in the spies, razing some pirates, and moving the peregine line south?

And all the while we throw ourselves into buildup and preparation in case diplomacy and intrigue fails?

Ah, and if they get pushy and keep so much as a single slave of our people or those of our allies no matter what diplomacy and intrigue we pull we prepare for war and start rallying the people to end them?
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I'm more in line with the slash and burn the pirate haven, give it to the neighpon to create a naval base there then use it as a headquarters for a joint blockade of the coast, since that will probably make them return our people real quick.

I'd like to negotiate from a position of power rather than even ground.
 
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Ericwinter said:
What I'm saying is to build defences and start throwing everything we have at repairing the Crystal Empire, which we were going to do anyways. We don't have to force a war at all, because much like Sombra, they will come to us. It's what Slavers do, regardless of how kindly they might treat their "property". You can't run an economy without constantly drawing new resources.
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Again we know nothing about this Kingdom how it is run what use slaves have in it if at all. Whether they just sell to others or keep slaves as status symbols. And the Crystal Empire is going to be a dead land for a long time no matter what we do. The lands near the city might recover faster but the majority of the lands is still dead and barren. This is the work of decades not years. The only way to speed it up is if we can figure out a way to use the crystal heart to speed up recovery and even that is not guaranteed to be possible. So no they are not going to come to us because all they see on their border is a bunch of useless deadland. They also have no idea about the crystal ponies since none of our ships carry any. All they know about is Griffon, Diamond Dogs, and the Neighpon races. They don't know about the Yaks either.

Somebodynobody10 said:
Blockade their ports.
ALL OF THEM.

No trade, no fishing, not even a rowboat will be allowed to escape.
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Blockading will lead to a war and we have no idea how strong of a military they have or if they have a navy to match our own forces.
 
RandomLurker said:
Big whoop, some of our people got enslaved, we have more shit to deal with first, like the war of cleansing we're fighting, and the Yak civil war about to pop. And now you guys want to launch a war against two nations we have just about no information on? While they have magic to boot? At least wait until we open diplomatic channels and launch some intrigue actions before you go declaring jihad.
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The slave haven dies thats just going to happen regardless, what were saying is to avoid bloodshed with the actual nation at all cost, but we must have a line somewhere.
 
yeah one thing people seem to be forgetting is that our spies are damn good at they're job so i say once we curb stomp the pirates we send our spies to do what they do best. we might not even have to fight the war ourselves since this is a more normal problem then sombra so assassination should work this time
 
slavezero said:
yeah one thing people seem to be forgetting is that our spies are damn good at they're job so i say once we curb stomp the pirates we send our spies to do what they do best. we might not even have to fight the war ourselves since this is a more normal problem then sombra so assassination should work this time
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Hell with our spies we could possibly have them steal our people back themselves.
 
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