Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest
- Thread starter Questor
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Ah Yaks! one of the most entertaining MLP races... and they are steppe nomads.
I am way more excited about this than I should be since they are a massive potential problem but I'm still excited! What we really need to do now though whatever happens next is find out who the Clans are and keep track of them because whether we are fighting them or befriending them we better be able to determine who is among them is doing what. Way to many problems could come from mistaking the actions of one Clans for another.
I am way more excited about this than I should be since they are a massive potential problem but I'm still excited! What we really need to do now though whatever happens next is find out who the Clans are and keep track of them because whether we are fighting them or befriending them we better be able to determine who is among them is doing what. Way to many problems could come from mistaking the actions of one Clans for another.
I think we are pretty safe with any encounters with the Yaks due to our ability to fly and the tech advantage we have over them. Though if they were ever to suddenly unite it would be prudent to prepare for some sort of war.
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- Hell
You and all the Russia comments are seriously overestimating us and underestimating the Yaks.
First off, we have black powder. We literally just invented it. That means any form of martial utility is going to be waaaay off.
Second of all, you guys are ignoring just how difficult it was for Russia to do it. It was slow slog of decades of work.
While I agree they are not as fast as Griffons, us being natural predators does not mean we have more warriors than them.
I also laugh at your logistics if you think we can somehow fly enough supplies to feed both the fliers and a besieged city.
As to our heavily fortified settlements, I leave that to OP. I highly doubt we have heavily fortified all our cities, towns, and villages.
They do not need to have high amount of magic, they just need some and that would be way more than we do and thus have zero forms of protection.
I just had an idea, Griffons aren't magical but the can use enchanted items right? If they Yaks have magic can we trade for enchanted items? I could see them having some kind of Shamanism.
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Well, being natural predators with natural weapons is something of an advantage. One of our population traits is Hardy after all and Griphons are constantly used to defending themselves from monsters all around. Not too different from steppe nomads used to hunting and fighting on the steppes.
Don't we have sky carriages drawn by Griphons? I'd swear i read that in a canon post or omake. That would mean our Griphons are very much capable of airlifting huge amounts of weight.
As for the fortifications:
Sure sounds like universal fortification to me.
The problem with trying to take the yaks is that we have no idea what they are capable of. For all we know they might have magic durability that makes them stupid tough or be super strong. The point we need to know more before we just dismiss them. Remember, the strongest people on the planet are literal ponies, judging a people by first appearances will get us burned.
That being said the biggest issue would be the land itself and logistics. Gettng stuff out there and keeping an army alive would be really hard much less occupying the place. There is a reason the steps kill empires, the shear scale and enviroment is just to much to bare. The only reason the russians managed to do it is because they cheated and integrated the hussars, and that is an epic all in itself.
That being said the biggest issue would be the land itself and logistics. Gettng stuff out there and keeping an army alive would be really hard much less occupying the place. There is a reason the steps kill empires, the shear scale and enviroment is just to much to bare. The only reason the russians managed to do it is because they cheated and integrated the hussars, and that is an epic all in itself.
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- NJ
Maybe against Griffons, Bandits, Trolls, Monsters, and Diamond Dogs but we have no idea how tough they'll be against other species we haven't met yet.
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- Italy
I'm not really underestimating them because i've not yet judged them. I'm waiting for more info.
I just meant that dropping rocks seems a bit silly when, with a bit more of (what i assumed was not much but i might be wrong) research we could drop bombs instead. I admit i don't know how much weaker the black powder we have is compared to bomb-grade, so i can't answer there.
looking for other reasons, found this:
that's implied, if they have interesting magic items we'd be fools not to try and trade for some.
Also, technically gryphons should be very slightly magical. After all they're capable of flying while carrying armor and weapons. They're basically pegasi with claws and without weather magic. Not sure if they can walk on clouds actually...i remember the question being raised, but not what the answer was. @Questor ?
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- Somewhere
@Questor what are the average life expectancy for all the races?
I know fandom likes to not think about it, or just throw in pony = human life span, but uhhhh, diamond dogs and griffons are weird in reality. Dogs would have a shorter life span than ponies (human), making the diamond dogs goblins, while griffons might be between about the same as ponies or far longer lived by 4 times the average pony because they are half bird. Albatross has a long life span, but other birds have a shorter one.
How long do the yaks, Qilin, zebras, sea ponies, changelings, elephants, pegasi, ponies, unicorns, and centaurs live in this world?
I know fandom likes to not think about it, or just throw in pony = human life span, but uhhhh, diamond dogs and griffons are weird in reality. Dogs would have a shorter life span than ponies (human), making the diamond dogs goblins, while griffons might be between about the same as ponies or far longer lived by 4 times the average pony because they are half bird. Albatross has a long life span, but other birds have a shorter one.
How long do the yaks, Qilin, zebras, sea ponies, changelings, elephants, pegasi, ponies, unicorns, and centaurs live in this world?
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- Earth
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- She/Her
it also means we have a good chance of getting a few of those clans to join us. We have better climate, more food and more tech.
They have...well.. I'm sure they have something to offer
...we have gunpowder! bombs are the way to go!
Yaks... gunpowder... we can have them carry cannons! :O
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- California
One the one claw, free land to expand. On the other claw, that land generally sucks and is inhabited by nomads.
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- Italy
1 will take time but, if we're not actually fighting wars against external threats, it's pretty much all our army has to do.
we already overcame 2
if we're lucky Yaks and our next mysterious neigbours will give us a few option regarding n.3, though we already have Diamond Dogs...actually, do Diamond Dogs have any kind of magic other than their digging abilities @Questor ? Maybe some kind of gem based magic, or maybe communal magic used only in group rituals?
and about 4...well, we're the merchant
They can be our mobile artillery! Like the Elcor in Mass Effect!
this i'd like to know as well. Dragons probably live for centuries, but other than them nothing is ever really shown.
we might get lucky and find metals and/or gems, who knows
Already have a huge natural wall in that direction, the mentioned black cliffs. It would mostly be a matter of building keeps/walls across the few natural passages, and regular flight patrols. Not even a major construction project to all off that border, should it become necessary.
I would suggest setting up a forward trade settlement for the clans to trade at, likely at the mouth of one of the passes, if we make the wall.
Black powder is significantly weaker than industrial era and modern era explosives. Its also much more annoying to work with outside of the exception of nitroglycerin. It doesnt work if it gets wet, it highly corrosive, it leaves residue/gunk everywhere, and produces a not insignificant amount of smoke. Yes we can make bombs and guns with it, but said bombs and guns are will be very limited in effect and use. There is a reason black powder went obsolete.
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- USA
Yes but black powder first had to be invented and used for better stuff to be made to make it obsolete in the first place.
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- Back in Cali
For lifespans it has been answered. Both the Diamond Dogs and Griffins have the same. It is roughly the same as a human depending on lifestyle so 80 years or so.
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- Germany
That may be so, but the effect on your willingness to fight of a cannonball ripping your frontranks APART or demolishing in minutes/hours what you spent weeks or even months to build is immense. (even more so if you did not know that these weapons even existed beforehand, and I do hope that we can stop yak espionage.)
Currently looking more like fantasy Europe. We've got France, Germany and Italy. We'll see if we get Russia.
I think the Empire of Gryphus is more akin to the Holy Roman Empire.
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- Back in Cali
We can only really expand to the are where the forests and mountains end. Past that is the plains and steppes that are best left to the Yaks. We build those towns are fortresses to act as trading post and slowly turn the Yaks that come to us into friendly trade partners for now. Once our technology has improved to the point we can actually use the steppes we can look into settling the Yaks and ourselves permanently as a new region.