An I-Field confers temporary immunity to energy weapons but is useless against projectiles and missiles.
Energy Conversion Armor is active all the time and works against everything but doesn't confer immunity to anything.
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An I-Field confers temporary immunity to energy weapons but is useless against projectiles and missiles.
Energy Conversion Armor is active all the time and works against everything but doesn't confer immunity to anything.
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The I-Filed is temporary protection and it needs to be turned on. ECA is always on and is standard on all our ships now. It is also the main defense against the Armada's Energy weapons since it doesn't allow those weapons to ignore any of the ECA. The Gun Destroyer is meant to be massed produced and put all of its power to the main gun.
[] Class Name: Orion Class Gun Destroyer
-[] (image)
-[] Gun Destroyer (Main Battery slots 0, Secondary 4, Auxiliary slots 3, Free Spinal Mount)
-[] Main Battery (0 Slots, Free Spinal Mount)
--[] Spinal Mount (Cost 4 Main 3 Secondary) (One Per Ship) (Free)
---[] Ultra-Heavy Railgun
-[] Secondaries (4 Slots)
--[] Anti-MS guns (cost 1) x3
--[] Anti-Air guns (cost 0.5) x2
-[] Auxiliary (3 slots)
--[] Energy Conversion Armor (cost 2)
--[] Extended Barracks (cost 1)
KnightDisciple
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Fair enough, and that plan works for me.
Out of curiosity Advent, why did you go with a 3/2 split instead of a 2/4 split?
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Anti-MS guns are far more powerful and more likely to destroy enemy battle pods the anti-air is more for missile shields and debris.
Standard Battlepods and Gnerl fighters never struck me as particularly well armored.
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I assume they are less protected than MS but not made from paper so while the anti-air "might" be able to destroy them the Anti-MS definitely will be able to destroy them. Besides these ships are going to be way back their main gun is a weapon for extreme range. That means it stays in the back with the carriers and provides overlapping protection from the other Gun Destroyers and carriers.
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While I think going with a Gun Destroyer is fine, we may want to start building the battleships first, since they would presumably take far longer to build than Gun Destroyers. For that reason, here is a Battleship design:
[] Class Name: Birmingham Class Battleship
-[] (Image)
-[] Battleship (Main Battery slots 6, Secondary slots 7, Auxiliary slots 6)
-[] Main Battery (6 Slots)
--[] Ultra-heavy (cost 3) x2
-[] Secondaries (7 Slots)
--[] Light (cost 1) x4
--[] Missile (cost 1) x2
--[] Anti-Air guns (cost 0.5) x2
-[] Auxiliary (6 slots)
--[] Energy Conversion Armor (cost 2)
--[] I-field Generator (cost 3)
--[] Extended Barracks
It has both an I-field and ECA because it's a battleship's job to take hits that the rest of the fleet can't handle. It is light on point defense because that is the job of its escorts
I got the name and the picture from the battleship that replaced the Magellan-class in canon
[] Class Name: Birmingham Class Battleship
-[] (Image)
-[] Battleship (Main Battery slots 6, Secondary slots 7, Auxiliary slots 6)
-[] Main Battery (6 Slots)
--[] Ultra-heavy (cost 3) x2
-[] Secondaries (7 Slots)
--[] Light (cost 1) x4
--[] Missile (cost 1) x2
--[] Anti-Air guns (cost 0.5) x2
-[] Auxiliary (6 slots)
--[] Energy Conversion Armor (cost 2)
--[] I-field Generator (cost 3)
--[] Extended Barracks
It has both an I-field and ECA because it's a battleship's job to take hits that the rest of the fleet can't handle. It is light on point defense because that is the job of its escorts
I got the name and the picture from the battleship that replaced the Magellan-class in canon
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I see battleship as a class of ship that is better made earlier rather than later, to me a gun destroyer is akin to something you mass produce in a hurry.
[x] Plan Garbera Class Battleship
-[x]image
-[x] Battleship (Main Battery slots 6, Secondary slots 7, Auxiliary lots 6)
--[x] Super-heavy (cost 2) x2
--[x] Heavy (cost 1) x2
--[x] Medium (cost 2) x2
--[x] Anti-MS guns (cost 1) x3
--[x] Extended Barracks (cost 1)
--[x] I-field Generator (cost 3)
--[x] Energy Conversion Armor (cost 2)
Technically Birmingham intended to be the new class of flag ship for the federation instead of replacing Magellans, the thought along with much federation admiralty vaporized in 0083. Last echo of the battleship faction bth.
edit: we voting now?
[x] Plan Garbera Class Battleship
-[x]image
-[x] Battleship (Main Battery slots 6, Secondary slots 7, Auxiliary lots 6)
--[x] Super-heavy (cost 2) x2
--[x] Heavy (cost 1) x2
--[x] Medium (cost 2) x2
--[x] Anti-MS guns (cost 1) x3
--[x] Extended Barracks (cost 1)
--[x] I-field Generator (cost 3)
--[x] Energy Conversion Armor (cost 2)
Technically Birmingham intended to be the new class of flag ship for the federation instead of replacing Magellans, the thought along with much federation admiralty vaporized in 0083. Last echo of the battleship faction bth.
edit: we voting now?
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[X] Class Name: Orion Class Gun Destroyer
-[X] (image)
-[X] Gun Destroyer (Main Battery slots 0, Secondary 4, Auxiliary slots 3, Free Spinal Mount)
-[X] Main Battery (0 Slots, Free Spinal Mount)
--[X] Spinal Mount (Cost 4 Main 3 Secondary) (One Per Ship) (Free)
---[X] Ultra-Heavy Railgun
-[X] Secondaries (4 Slots)
--[X] Anti-MS guns (cost 1) x3
--[X] Anti-Air guns (cost 0.5) x2
-[X] Auxiliary (3 slots)
--[X] Energy Conversion Armor (cost 2)
--[X] Extended Barracks (cost 1)
Right Here is the Gun Destroyer. Like I said this is a ship that can help equalize the battle against the Armada since with an extreme range rail gun it bypasses most of the ECA that the Armada uses and can cause massive damage. They are also much cheaper and faster to build than any other ship. Right now we are at 6 times the production rate we started out on and at that rate, we were building several Agamemnon Carriers and Nova Class Battlecruisers a month already. Once the Space elevator is done not only can we build bigger ships but that rate should increase as well. So our battleship design will have all the tech possible for production at a good speed.
-[X] (image)
-[X] Gun Destroyer (Main Battery slots 0, Secondary 4, Auxiliary slots 3, Free Spinal Mount)
-[X] Main Battery (0 Slots, Free Spinal Mount)
--[X] Spinal Mount (Cost 4 Main 3 Secondary) (One Per Ship) (Free)
---[X] Ultra-Heavy Railgun
-[X] Secondaries (4 Slots)
--[X] Anti-MS guns (cost 1) x3
--[X] Anti-Air guns (cost 0.5) x2
-[X] Auxiliary (3 slots)
--[X] Energy Conversion Armor (cost 2)
--[X] Extended Barracks (cost 1)
Right Here is the Gun Destroyer. Like I said this is a ship that can help equalize the battle against the Armada since with an extreme range rail gun it bypasses most of the ECA that the Armada uses and can cause massive damage. They are also much cheaper and faster to build than any other ship. Right now we are at 6 times the production rate we started out on and at that rate, we were building several Agamemnon Carriers and Nova Class Battlecruisers a month already. Once the Space elevator is done not only can we build bigger ships but that rate should increase as well. So our battleship design will have all the tech possible for production at a good speed.
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[X] Class Name: Orion Class Gun Destroyer
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Shouldn't this be 3 free hanger slots since you said the refit made the third one free in order to add ECA and you said that carried over to new designs as well?
You two can put these as actual votes the time waiting is up.I see battleship as a class of ship that is better made earlier rather than later, to me a gun destroyer is akin to something you mass produce in a hurry.
[x] Plan Garbera Class Battleship
-[x]image
-[x] Battleship (Main Battery slots 6, Secondary slots 7, Auxiliary lots 6)
--[x] Super-heavy (cost 2) x2
--[x] Heavy (cost 1) x2
--[x] Medium (cost 2) x2
--[x] Anti-MS guns (cost 1) x3
--[x] Extended Barracks (cost 1)
--[x] I-field Generator (cost 3)
--[x] Energy Conversion Armor (cost 2)
Technically Birmingham intended to be the new class of flag ship for the federation instead of replacing Magellans, the thought along with much federation admiralty vaporized in 0083. Last echo of the battleship faction bth.
edit: we voting now?
Just putting my design out there for anyone who wants to vote battleship.
[ ] Plan Arizona Class Battleship
-[ ] Battleship (Main Battery slots 6, Secondary slots 7, Auxiliary slots 6)
--[ ] Ultra-heavy x2 (cost 6)
--[ ] Light x2 (cost 2)
--[ ] Anti-MS guns x3 (cost 3)
--[ ] Anti-Air guns x4 (cost 2)
--[ ] Extended Barracks (cost 1)
--[ ] I-field Generator (cost 3)
--[ ] Energy Conversion Armor (cost 2)
I am also slightly confused.
[X] Class Name: Orion Class Gun Destroyer
[ ] Plan Arizona Class Battleship
-[ ] Battleship (Main Battery slots 6, Secondary slots 7, Auxiliary slots 6)
--[ ] Ultra-heavy x2 (cost 6)
--[ ] Light x2 (cost 2)
--[ ] Anti-MS guns x3 (cost 3)
--[ ] Anti-Air guns x4 (cost 2)
--[ ] Extended Barracks (cost 1)
--[ ] I-field Generator (cost 3)
--[ ] Energy Conversion Armor (cost 2)
I am also slightly confused.
[X] Class Name: Orion Class Gun Destroyer
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[X] Class Name: Orion Class Gun Destroyer
I'll go with the Gun Destroyer since I hope that Project V will provide new tech that can be used on a battleship design
I'll go with the Gun Destroyer since I hope that Project V will provide new tech that can be used on a battleship design
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what does an I-field Generator do again?
We just covered this on this page.
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[X] Class Name: Orion Class Gun Destroyer
yeah, i'd take energy conversion armor over the I-field Generator for an arty ship. though i don't think the garrison is that useful, except maybe for letting a fleet have a larger marine presence overall. But its the only use for a point.
yeah, i'd take energy conversion armor over the I-field Generator for an arty ship. though i don't think the garrison is that useful, except maybe for letting a fleet have a larger marine presence overall. But its the only use for a point.
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Sorry my master sheet for ship building got corrupted so I've been working off old data. Fixing.
Edit: Fixed
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[X] Plan Arizona Class Battleship
Look I love big guns and I can not lie.
Look I love big guns and I can not lie.
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In fairness, if we're being realistic, MS serve literally no purpose. They're lacking in firepower and speed compared to fighters.
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i got a good assault carrier image
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The Barracks is actually a performance booster for the ships. And an I-Field is a powerful bonus to defense but it is too much for a small ship like this one. And this is a very long range asset so it will be in the rear protected by the rest of the fleet and out ranging everything else on the battlefield.
I did say more realistic not totally realistic after all.
Awesome make sure to save it for when we make a Assualt Carrier. It is the best image for one I have seen.i got a good assault carrier image
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If I recall it gives a bonus to how long it can stay on station, and bording right?
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That is the fluff that it makes the ship have a longer on-station time. Game mechanics wise it is a general boost to the ship stats.
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1. I think you accidentally added a third hanger slot to the assault carrier.
2. Can "free hanger slots" be spent on Large Hangers and/or Strike Craft Hangers?
i got a good assault carrier image
It isn't the White Base.