Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
Unrelated.
She just couldn't command it because she, functionally, wasn't casting her magic on the We's brain, just on a hand.
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- Manchester, UK
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- He/They
I don't think that'd have any problems as a write-in - if we can steal a mammoth we can definitely steal some random loot. If you're willing to try and persuade people you could start one?
I don't know why you're replying to this comment, but it was said in response to this:
Where das_slash goes full, "We will be greeted as liberators" with respect to the mammoth. So by this logic I do expect people who are fully onboard team, the mammoth is a poor oppressed victim to not be on board with essentially enslaving it if it really is happy with its current conditions. Anyways I need to go to bed, thankfully voting is going better than expected.
Ganurath
Literal Enthusiast
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- A Valid Location
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- He/Him
I would've thought that obvious from the whole "Dragomas turned into a dragon" thing.
- Location
- Aotearoa
Could just steal Borek's 2,000 Gold. We kind of did already, and it might even be legal! Best kind of theft.
Forget the mirror, the most suspicious thing Egrimm's ever done is tell us that Barbitus was suspicious. The only reason we were suspicious of Barbitus in the first place is because Egrimm told us he was suspicious. Except Barbitus was innocent, which makes Egrimm sus.
Given that we are the one who has us to live with the consequences the snowjob he did convincing the dwarves that we are actually a stolen dwarf soul, after we helped him make up with the widow I'd say he owes us, if anything.
It's an animal, and for the record I don't have a problem with killing and eating animals, but as far as animals go elephants are top-tier intelligent. Not dolphin-smart, but pretty up there.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
I am completely unequipped to argue if an elephant is a sapient or not.
I'm just saying, Mathilde has never once considered if the kittybirds or the giant wolves or the wolf-rats are people. She didn't bury the Dire Wolves with full honors. When Asarnil mentioned his fees for Rhinoxen-hunting, she didn't look down on him for being elf-racist. No one has ever considered if buying a griffon or a pegasus is an animal rights violation, or if we sold the Lustrian salamanders into zoo-slavery. Starting here, respecting this one particular person/animal/whatever's personal agency, feels really weird.
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While it doesn't really matter, since legal arguments are not going to convince either side, the Empire at least thinks that Dieter IV did not have the right to allow Marienburg to secede, and thus said secession is unlawful. Whether they are right is subject to interpretation.
I'd like to clarify that it is not just a wholesale invention, but rather an interpretation of the existent lore, which mentions things like elves constantly fighting to the point of cities becoming empty, elven expeditions going across the world and titles like "Shield of the world".
Hey so, how common are Wisdom Asp problems? Because that tiny mirror Horstmann carries with him might be a personal warning device.
I might be misremembering things but i believe boneym was rolling a 10% chance for it to appear every action to try and fuck with us but that's mechanics of quest so unsure if it would apply to horstman if he has it.
I'd like to say that one reason I enjoy talking with van Horstmann is that he always touches on things that the quest thread is highly interested in hearing about. Last time it was about what was really going on in Karag Dum. This time Mathilde got to expound on her theories about what's wrong with dwarven population growth. The first time we talked with him we exchanged theories about how magic comes into the world and what we might find at Karag Dum.
Over and above whether he's suspicious or not, the things Egrimm talks about are usually topics we want to hear about.
Over and above whether he's suspicious or not, the things Egrimm talks about are usually topics we want to hear about.
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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- He/Him/His
Ah, I see what you mean. I think the thread would have reacted similarly to any other animal in the top tier of "likelihood that it is a person," like a cetacean or a great ape, but obviously counterfactuals gonna counterfactual.
Ganurath
Literal Enthusiast
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- A Valid Location
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- He/Him
It's actually a magic item found in the 7e Empire rulebook, I think. Van Horstmann's Speculum is a magic mirror that reverses combat abilities between the wearer and their opponent during a duel. In Quest terms, I suspect it'd cause him to swap Martial stats with his opponent. I further suspect that his Martial stat is abysmal.
Gap
Not a Dog
- Location
- The Malleary
Changing some vote. I guess I dont want to read Egrimm 3 times in a row. Variety plz
[X] Ranging far ahead of the convoy
Kittybirds and maybe amber friends
[X] Sir Ruprecht Wulfhart the Younger
Want to make ties with him so we can work at together at K8P
[X] Asarnil the Dragonlord
Because just so
[X] Ice Crone Ljiljana
Curiosity and to perhaps get some connection where we normally wouldn't
[X] Citharus, Barbitus, and Timpania
I think the moment fits.
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[X] Deathfang
[X] Preceptor Joerg von Zavstra
[X] Ranging far ahead of the convoy
Kittybirds and maybe amber friends
[X] Sir Ruprecht Wulfhart the Younger
Want to make ties with him so we can work at together at K8P
[X] Asarnil the Dragonlord
Because just so
[X] Ice Crone Ljiljana
Curiosity and to perhaps get some connection where we normally wouldn't
[X] Citharus, Barbitus, and Timpania
I think the moment fits.
Approval:
[X] Deathfang
[X] Preceptor Joerg von Zavstra
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- They/Them
Personally I think Ghur is attracted not to animals but rather is repelled by the sort of 'constructed ideals' thing that humans/other races have going. An elephant is sapient, but doesn't bother with stuff like taboos or money or other fictional constructs. Ghur in my opinion is not the wind of beasts but rather the wind of simplicity.
kfrar
Aspiring Encyclopedia
That's...mostly untrue? You can argue that Egrimm fed into our suspicions, but Mathilde noticed or brought up the subject herself every time:
Like, Egrimm talked about his suspicions towards Barbitus, but we initiated the conversations in which this happened and he never pressed his case particularly vehemently. If he is a Tzeentch cultist he may very well have been handling us, taking advantage of Barbitus's situation by poking our Grey paranoia just enough to see what happens, but like everything else to do with him it's hardly a smoking gun.
Or he could've been handling us in the other direction. Perhaps Alric, Egrimm's Master, is a little more wary of Magisters shooting up through the ranks and rapidly gaining access to secrets and power these days, and perhaps he sent Egrimm to check us for corruption, Chaotic or otherwise. So, Egrimm gave us a position where we could murder or lean on a potential asset to see if we took the bait.
Or, possibility 3, he's just some guy who hates his boss. It is a mystery.
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Well, let's consider what occasions might have them show up again.
Badlands Expedition II: Rising Drazh
...Have to admit unless it turns out one goes bad I don't see that we'd have much to do with them, maybe if Horstmann is recruited and they come along?
Depending on how he got along with Hubert it's possible he'd show up at some point.
"Mathilde, I've got one last ticket for the Lustria express, you in?"
More generally though, this reminds me about how I've actually quite liked how Boney has had what could've been one off characters show up multiple times, like guy who built our Red tower teaching us enchanting, or Choirmaster Stephen showing up to teach Runes later. Makes the colleges feel more alive, while also illustrating they're not that big.
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King Arthur
The Once and Future King
With the power of editing your own or someone else's memories via magic he could even be all three.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
I am tickled by the idea that this has all been a sting operation on us by the Light College. Clearly Horstmann has no actual issues with Alric, he's just playing up the role of being discontent to see if we bite and try to corrupt him in turn!
In the extreme case of this, Horstmann is actually already a Lord Magister, the Light College just keeps his true rank a secret for covert inter-college ops like this and he pretends to only be a Magister.
I don't think it's likely, mind you, but I'd find it funny if this was the second time one of Mathilde's supposed subordinates was secretly the same rank as her.
In the extreme case of this, Horstmann is actually already a Lord Magister, the Light College just keeps his true rank a secret for covert inter-college ops like this and he pretends to only be a Magister.
I don't think it's likely, mind you, but I'd find it funny if this was the second time one of Mathilde's supposed subordinates was secretly the same rank as her.
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- Aotearoa
Mathilde's head is a very strange place, at times.
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
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- He/Him/His
...I am now deeply tickled at the notion of someone using mind-reading magic on her, breaking the fourth wall, and getting, like, a page of the thread dumped on them as her stream of consciousness.
Or, heavens help the poor soul, half a dozen memes from the Media threadmarks.
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- Omniverse #1345
Oh no. They get the entire thread. All at once.
Tzeentch labeled her a cognitohazard after the 5th sorceror's head exploded.