NuclearConsensus
Herald of the Thorned One
- Location
- the Philippines
So... Mathilde for High King 2087?
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
yeah but 2020 has lasted 5 years
Burned_Cookie
Very tired girl.
- Location
- Plato´s cave.
- Pronouns
- She/Her/It/Its
As a dwarf, that might actually be an option. Maybe. If this isn't a joke.
And we actually wanted to. And Thorgrimm didn't do a pretty good job when not critfailing a tactical analysis.
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
Oh Thorgrim you utter bastard.
This is his way of ensuring that the Dwarven Empire doesn't have to owe Mathilde and the Empire anything. By having a Grudge declared against Ranald and then having our current actions pay it off they can declare that our actions merely repay the debt we owed. Canny bastard.
This is his way of ensuring that the Dwarven Empire doesn't have to owe Mathilde and the Empire anything. By having a Grudge declared against Ranald and then having our current actions pay it off they can declare that our actions merely repay the debt we owed. Canny bastard.
He can keep from owing the Empire like that, but not Mathilde. Dwarf or not she did save Vlag, that is worth DF. We are not Ranald in this narrative, but the victim of his supposed actions.
I mean, am I the only one that perceives Boney's post as a joke?
Also, I am not sure that grudging Ranald is in any way connected to the Empire or Colleges of Magic...
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
i dunno, the proclamation says the source is of "undoubtable" repute.
The only thing undoubtable to the dwarfs are the Capital-A Ancestors, and i dont think even wanting to just not lose his shirt in debt would make him falsely claim an ancestor god said something
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I was already planning to recommission Mathilde with Dwarf plats in january this only made it even more essential.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
boney has posted little previews like this before, so theres precedent for it being true. especially in regards to the preview being a big-deal proclamation due to our deeds
like here
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- Location
- The internet
I wonder if this is something of a legal fiction. Thorgrim realizing that Mathilda probably knows or will soon figure out stuff he's sworn to kill any nondwarf who knows. So he makes her legally a dwarf.
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- They/Them
Could have been Grombrindal - if anyone could say such a thing and have it believed it would be he.
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
This is our comeuppance for memeing to death "this is a dwarf quest" and "dwarf infection spreads": we legitimately cannot tell if Boney is just fucking with us or not.
- Location
- Oklahoma
its just me over exaggerating because I can't remember the choices that got made during character creation is all.
I've had kids since before this thread existed
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
The stuff she's inching towards is stuff no one is allowed to know, Dwarf or no.
And the decision was ultimately up to the Ancestor Cult figures, not Thorgrim.
He's been with us every step of the way, from Mathilde making metaphors about alluvial gold, to the recent bit where he reveals she hasn't cut her hair in years and now plaits it.
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- Location
- Brazil
I'd say the High King is someone of undoubtable repute, too. Or a Runelord.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
The good thing about this is that I am no longer the only person who harbours a not-entirely-rational grudge against Ranald and what he has done. Even if our reasoning are different, I can call the Dawi of Karaz-a-Karak allies when it comes to being wronged by the God of Deceit!
On the downside, Mathilde disagrees...
On the downside, Mathilde disagrees...
Kornet
Quite possibly a sloth abomination
- Location
- Mother Russia
Oh lord. That proclamation is probably so much legal trouble. So, Mathilde has always been a dwarf. Is she a subject of Karaz Ankor, though? A case can be made both ways. And it's more complicated than Empire dwarves, as she is a thane and coucilor of a Karaz Ankor hold. Moreover, does it mean that Karaz Ankor has to recongise the Grey College as a proper guild? I mean, not recoginising it would make Mathilde obligated to declare a grudge on the spot.
This is a legal shitstorm.
And we propably won't see it until we return from the expidition.
This is a legal shitstorm.
And we propably won't see it until we return from the expidition.
If this is legit the Grey College are going to worry even more about Mathilde's loyalty. I mean yes dwarfs are reliable and so is Mathilde, but if there ever comes a time where they might wish to censure us *caugh* Liber Mortis *caugh* they might find themselves unable to do so without a diplomatic incident of truly prodigious proportions.
pucflek
Verified simpleton
- Location
- Czech Republic
I honestly don't think Thorgrim would do people dirty like this. He is a victim of fatalistic depression, not an active asshole on purpose. And he is actually most likely getting better thanks to our efforts!
EDIT: Also, yes, i think its a joke.
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empire dwarfs are legal citizens of the empire and not the Karaz Ankor.
its already been worked out.
- Location
- Earth
If the Colleges learn of it.
I don't think Grudges have to be announced to more than the responsible or directly involved parties?
It's not so much the grudge as the 'being decalred formally a dwarf' part. That is going to be inscribed in KaK somewhere and dwarfs are not the sorts to hide that kind of legal document.
- Location
- The internet
There's a difference between secrets Thorgrim is honor bound not to speak of, and secrets where he's honor bound to kill any dwarf who discovers it independently.