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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Just saying, if this plan works, then when the "hold Vlag in the Immaterium" enchantment loses its power I want Mathilde to pat the Waystone she used for the job appreciatively for being such an excellent insulator of magic.
 
The Lone badger said:
With the kind of payload they've got saved up, even if we perfectly counterspell the actual spellwork just the leftover dhar from the shattered spell is still going to be enough to kill everybody.
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But the stone is an excellent insulator of magic!..

Garlak said:
Also: *laughs nervously* ahahaha, +30 Martial for mere Daemonettes... That's scary. Those were just Daemonettes
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"Mere"? "Just"? :o I think we have really different images here. Because afaik, Demonettes is pretty high-ranked daemons. Nothing like Greater Daemons, but to say "mere Demonette" is something like "mere vampire", or "mere Black Magister".

PurposefulZephyr said:
You say there are dwarfs inside? Inside the warp, in domain of Slaneesh, for 200 real years?
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We don't know how long that been for them. Chaos is atemporal. And just weird in general. So, with some (well, pretty insanely amount, actually, but still) luck, we could fish them out a hour later than they got pulled in.

lentil said:
My biggest concern is that it's simply not plausible; even if we remove the magic source, it won't meaningfully impede the deamons on a relevant time scale. We'll have to see what BoneyM says, but my gut feeling is that it won't be this simple.

I would love to be wrong, though.

Edit: BoneyM answered while I was typing. It's plausible but would take days. I doubt we can stop the expedition that long, but it's a viable siege strategy to pursue later. Alternatively, Mathilde just cuts the Dum waystone off at the source.
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Don't forget about another thing - Vlag might not reappear in the reality immediately after we'll cut the "cable". They might have a "uninterruptible power system" with days or even months of energy.

Sorry, guys, I'm to weak to do it. See you tomo... later today.
Sleep.

[x] Waystone Clog
 
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Kliden said:
Von Horstmann is still an unknown quantity for us...is there any way that he (or any other sleeper agents) could screw up our clogging/unclogging process?
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Yes. Obviously an enemy Chaos Sorceror in our ranks could screw up our process.

Now, canon Von Horstmann probably wouldn't do so - he does not benefit personally from it and Tzeentch would laugh at whatever plans Slaneesh has going up in smoke - but if a Magus want to mess with our clogging they most certainly can do so. Whether they can get away with it with their head still attached to their shoulders is another question, but the risk is still real.

Of course, any step of this journey can be messed up if one of our fellow Wizards have picked up an unappreciative patron, so this is not a problem unique to this situation.
 
[x] Waystone Clog

Chills, literal chills reading this update. You cannot believe how hyped I am about this.

Also the moment Borek asks Snorri to go and reclaim the Karak and he immediately turns to us was the best moment for me in this update.

Like Snorri is saying "You are a Wizard, you have a hat, pull a new teick out of it!"
 
[X] Waystone Interruption
- Have Cyrston channel as much magic out of the leyline feeding Karak Vlag as possible, hopefully interrupting the effect keeping it in the Warp.
 
Redshirt Army said:
The best thing we can do is cut off the magic flowing from Karag Dum somehow - this is clearly an actively maintained effect, so cutting that off would make it more feasible for said Wizard Lords and Runelords to come yank Vlag back out later.
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if the there are dwarf holding out in there it would thanks to their anti magic and anti chaos Runes if we cut off power from the way stone network the Runes might lose power and fail
 
So, before it gets lost in the voting: lets do a little book keeping for future planing

Jyn little book of stat keeping.


Average Daemonettes:

Martial: 30

-- Temptation: -20 to rolls while entranced (Piety and Avatar seems to protect)
-- unarmoured

Key Lesson: Avoid close combat, and when not possible use units with high Piety.

Average Longbeard Ranger:

Martial: 20 (maybe Higher at range)

Snorri:

Martial: 20 (maybe higher at range.)

key lesson: old grumbles are always useful, but rangers should say at range.
 
BoneyM said:
The closest thing the Empire has to Waystone experts are the Jades.
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My thoughts were more towards having some sort of wizard presence to monitor the situation so the clogged Waystone doesn't produce Dhar and any potential weird stuff gets documented during the time when the Expedition moves towards Dum and the big boy Runesmiths and top tier College experts arrive.

OriOriOriOri said:
Also the moment Borek asks Snorri to go and reclaim the Karak and he immediately turns to us was the best moment for me in this update.
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Well Mathilde did casually name drop Kragg and Thorek.

It was such a casual 'Yeah, of course I'm on a first name basis with the first and second Runelords of the Karaz Ankor.'
 
[X] Waystone Clog

After skimming the discussion and reading the QM posts thus far, I'm on board with this. We wound up with what could be an amazing opportunity, so let's capitalize on it.
 
Koraan said:
"Mere"? "Just"? :o I think we have really different images here. Because afaik, Demonettes is pretty high-ranked daemons. Nothing like Greater Daemons, but to say "mere Demonette" is something like "mere vampire", or "mere Black Magister".
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No, Daemonettes are the foot soldiers of Slaanesh. In terms of the Tabletop, they fall in the same category as simple dwarf warriors or quarrelers. Arguably more replaceable.
 
Okay, I may have missed this in the mass of discussion up until now, but: do we have any reason to believe the forces of the expedition are sufficient to hold off a literal endless tide of demons for multiple consecutive days?
 
Zero Gravitas said:
My thoughts were more towards having some sort of wizard presence to monitor the situation so the clogged Waystone doesn't produce Dhar and any potential weird stuff gets documented during the time when the Expedition moves towards Dum and the big boy Runesmiths and top tier College experts arrive.
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A clogged Waystone in an unpopulated area outside of the borders of the Old World and halfway into the Chaos Wastes would be extremely far down the list of priorities. Mathilde would have to spill major Dwarven secrets to communicate why anyone should care about this.
 
[X] Waystone Clog

Clog, fight, win fight, check Karak, decide on whether or not to un-clog after that.

Nothing could possably go wrong.
 
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Wiadi said:
Okay, I may have missed this in the mass of discussion up until now, but: do we have any reason to believe the forces of the expedition are sufficient to hold off a literal endless tide of demons for multiple consecutive days?
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They won't be infinite if we take them out of the warp, is the point, if I understand it correctly.
 
mmgaballah said:
if the there are dwarf holding out in there it would thanks to their anti magic and anti chaos Runes if we cut off power from the way stone network the Runes might lose power and fail
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Runes can drink in ambient magic to power themselves, this is how they worked before the Vortex. I doubt that runes that have been literally in the Aethyr for the past 200 years are going to run out of juice in a week, especially since when we talk about runes running out of power we are usually talking thousands of years of use.
 
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