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For the next few hours she wandered in my wake, mostly being content to perch upon the water-wagon and read something or other. It was nice, even as I sweated under the sun, because she so rarely shows herself out and about. Having the halflings tease me for the rest of the afternoon when I spent even a bit of time staring at the little smile she has while reading? That I could have done without.
D'awwwww.
It's hard for wizards to sneak up on each other unless they are really trying (or unless one wizard's windsight leaves something to be desired) so it was hardly a shock, but still. I turned, hands on my hips, trying to suppress a grin.
Pfft. I guess Panoramia's never seen Mathilde trying to actually be sneaky, has she?
"Well, I suppose that means I'll have to help you," I said as I moved over to her and slid my hands about her waist, "here, let me show you how."

A quick twist and pull, and she was pressed up against me, her back to my chest, and I had to pretend not to hear the soft gasp she made lest I lose my composure. I moved my hands up to hers and almost nibbled at her ear as I spoke.
Still hilarious how obvious it is that Mathilde's sole experience with romance is by reading trashy novels. :p
"Well, you are the famous scholar. Here, narrow long slices and- oh wow, you are very good with a knife, aren't you? I suppose I should have guessed- and yes that's perfect."
Mathilde is adorable. Also she must be really damn good with a knife if it's that obvious. :p
"Have you ever fried anything before? I suppose not. It's going to get us a nice crisp on those potatoes, but the thing is, the oil needs to be hot."

"So, next, we need to turn up the heat?"
Smoooooooth
Six, only one more than they had two years ago, but in the center of the column is one wider and taller than the others that you presume to be the newest addition. It lacks the swivel-cannon that the others have but more than makes up for it with the dragon that is perched atop it, watching the terrain crawl past with disdain.
This is amazing and I want a picture of it.
 
I am thinking about it. While Borek is not Belegar, I do think that in general it is advantageous to have the knights represent themself. ultimately that serves to lower miscommunication and if the dwarves have questions about their capabilities they are likely to know the answer better than Mathilder.
For the dragon, I think it wise to ask him if he wants us to be his representative on the council. Dawi and Elgi don't really mix well at the best of times, and a vengeance-seeking gruff and proud dwarf interaction with dragon prince so proud he defied the Phoenix King seems to me like the recipe for conflict. On the other hand, that pride may very well lead to Arsinel considering it an insult to him if the dawi place a lowly short-life human in command of him, even if it's a human he likes
 
I think we should get Wizards and Asarnil. He already did serve under our command.
On the other hand if we do not get Knights, there might be chain of command problem with Hubert and Esbern and Seija.
 
For the dragon, I think it wise to ask him if he wants us to be his representative on the council. Dawi and Elgi don't really mix well at the best of times, and a vengeance-seeking gruff and proud dwarf interaction with dragon prince so proud he defied the Phoenix King seems to me like the recipe for conflict. On the other hand, that pride may very well lead to Arsinel considering it an insult to him if the dawi place a lowly short-life human in command of him, even if it's a human he likes

If Mathilde things it's the best thing to do, she can justify and spin it to Asarnil to prevent any ruffled feathers.
 
, and it might be better for you to take responsibility for all human forces instead of having someone who you're pretty sure doesn't speak Reikspiel deal with the Knights directly.

Wouldn't some of the Winter Wolves have picked up the language by now? They should have the required favour, and whoever had the both the talent and the motivation to have aquired it by now would be an instant include in their sent delegation. Having some lower member play translator for their boss would still not solve the entire issue though.
 
Wouldn't some of the Winter Wolves have picked up the language by now? They should have the required favour, and whoever had the both the talent and the motivation to have aquired it by now would be an instant include in their sent delegation. Having some lower member play translator for their boss would still not solve the entire issue though.

They live a long way away, and the Dwarves that pass through Ulrikadrin regularly tend to speak Reikspiel.
 
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Honestly think this is the best option for us, we might not have the best diplomacy but that sort of pales in comparison to the rest of what makes it desirable for Mathilde to be the go between on this expedition for the leadership and the rest of the wizards/ knightly orders and Asarnil.
 
Snorri is a Ranger and presumably knows Reikspiel, even if the Knights don't have a Khazalid speaker among them he could translate and since he's on the council he'd be present anyway.
 
I would honestly love to have Asarnil around, he can swap stories with Mathilde again, plus having him in our corner would be great should Divided Loyalties come into play. I'm less sure about the knights. Being their commander would be great, but adding them to stuff Mathilde has to manage is likely to cut into her time, plus we've the new wizards to keep track of already.
 
Mathilde is adorable. Also she must be really damn good with a knife if it's that obvious. :p
Alternate interpretation: Mathilde was deliberately showing off with that knife (or at least cutting stuff in an especially showy manner) despite being all flustered.
Perhaps not the intended use of Grey Order skills, but if it works it works!
 
The issue with commanding the knights is that we won't be there for much of the campaign, off scouting or stealing stuff from Kurgans. The more we choose to command the bigger the hole we leave behind will be.
 
It's true, though the Knights should have their own command structure.

Still, having your CO be out of touch for day(s) at a time is not going to be good in a crisis that occurs without us present, though last time leadership was absent we accidentally conquered five mountains.

Do any of the K8P Wizards speak Khazalid? Max does, but has Hubert picked it up well enough to be a translator for the Winter Wolves?
 
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@BoneyM : Can we delegate command of, say, the knightly orders while still retaining overall authority in the cases in which we're available and a major decision is to be made? Mathilde has a good deal of experience with unusual campaigns and combined arms, but Mathilde is often at her best when she's going ahead of the army to throw the enemy's command structure and strategy into shambles as the army arrives, and even if she avoids that, she's the only one in the expedition capable of hard infiltration for vital intelligence gathering, meaning that there will be times when she's unavailable even if she's in command.

Frankly, the entire dilemma seems to not have a realistic approach available. Given literally years to prepare, how could the dwarves not have someone available to be the liason between the knightly orders and the rest of the command structure? We shouldn't have to command knightly orders for them. Having to pull double duty (or triple duty) feels like all of the major characters on the expedition didn't prepare even on the basic level for this operation, which doesn't make sense and makes other characters feel flat and incompetent.

While Mathilde should retain overall authority over the human forces, she should not have to command them (except for the wizards, for obvious reasons). She's not merely the highest ranking human present in both senses (she's a Lady Magister and Loremaster/Thane of Karak Eight Peaks), she's also got the most experience with this sort of campaign (a combined arms op between human knightly orders, wizards, dwarf forces, and Asarnil/Deathfang, going into hostile territory against a potentially entrenched foe). However, sidelining her as a commander would be a massive waste of her skills/abilities, given that she's a super scout/saboteur/assassin and the only one capable of magical infiltration or assassination.

Leading Asarnil (well, more like being the liaison) makes sense in that Mathilde is the only one who has actual experience working alongside Asarnil, while actually understanding that Asarnil has a ton of experience for her to defer to. However, that part is more of an open question.
 
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I could see commanding everyone working out pretty well. Mathilde could basically work as the go between for Dwarfs and other forces. Then we assign a commander to each group. Asarnil in charge of Asarnil, a Knight commander for each Knight group, a secondary wizard in charge of the wizards.
 
@BoneyM : Can we delegate command of, say, the knightly orders while still retaining overall authority in the cases in which we're available and a major decision is to be made? Mathilde has a good deal of experience with unusual campaigns and combined arms, but Mathilde is often at her best when she's going ahead of the army to throw the enemy's command structure and strategy into shambles as the army arrives, and even if she avoids that, she's the only one in the expedition capable of hard infiltration for vital intelligence gathering, meaning that there will be times when she's unavailable even if she's in command.

Yes, the moment-to-moment command would remain in the hands of whoever's in charge, Mathilde will just be the step in the org chart between them and Borek.

Do any of the K8P Wizards speak Khazalid? Max does, but has Hubert picked it up well enough to be a translator for the Winter Wolves?

Only Max and Johann.
 
Whatever our decision, just be sure to throw any hint of self-benefit into the garbage, because we are optimizing entirely for making this expedition succeed and keeping the expedition cooperating and efficient. In case we need to break the emergency glass and take direct command of the entire expedition, I would think we have enough levers for that already.

My gut is telling me to let Asarnil represent himself, he is a professional and the Expedition hired him, he doesn't need someone else to represent him. I doubt that there will be ruffled feathers to the point that he leaves or something.

As for the Knightly Orders, there is a stronger case to be made there. I'd trust her to completely eliminate the issues that could possibly crop up without her presence, which could genuinely become a problem if Borek ends up being pretty bad at integrating them.

The downside of picking them up is that we would be unable to focus Mathilde's attentions on the wizards, who are rather more numerous than they were during the Eight Peaks Campaign. She did a great job at assisting and integrating that original crew that time, and doing so here could be a great help once again. If we're playing the "Which One Of You Is Sus?" game, distracting her attentions could be bad. In a fight, her taking command of the magical contingent and only that will probably be a strict benefit, not having to also worry about cavalry movements at the same time.

Lightly leaning towards Wizards Only, but not totally married to that option.
 
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