Yes, but Kazador's a frequent visitor and a lot of Karak Azul Dwarves are passing through K8P.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Yes, but Kazador's a frequent visitor and a lot of Karak Azul Dwarves are passing through K8P.
deathofrats0808
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Belegar doesn't get to set the Runelords tasks though. He can ask for them to help out, but unlike he can with Mathilde can't actually order them to take a project.
You know what might be a good loremaster project? that teleporter tower idea (or is it a teleporting tower? wording matters in this case.) could be fun depending on how it works.
ether as a way to get to Karak Azul and Stirland (Mathy's land, she can build a tower there) fast, or as a way to move troupes around the 8 peaks and under it as fast as possible will help with defense.
hell over time we could set up a network among allies or places of importance that cant be defended in a normal way like trade posts in the border princes.
ether as a way to get to Karak Azul and Stirland (Mathy's land, she can build a tower there) fast, or as a way to move troupes around the 8 peaks and under it as fast as possible will help with defense.
hell over time we could set up a network among allies or places of importance that cant be defended in a normal way like trade posts in the border princes.
Sinsystems
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So i've been thinking one of the things that Mathilda is missing from her arsenal is the classic option of a poisoned blade of some kind, so I think we should see to getting something like a hidden stiletto dagger coated in the most lethal poison we can get our hands on (or maybe a couple with one being We paralyzing venom).
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Plus, he can only ask Mathilde because she is a loremaster, not because she is a subject... and even as a loremaster, I suspect that if she were to say "no", he'd just accept that unless its something really crucial, because we are sofar into green in goodwill that a few gaffes won't even shake us.
Not that I would even propose doing that. A spotless record is always preferable unless there is something incredibly pressing. Goodwill shouldn't be spent lightly even when abundant. I am just saying that our social position isn't below a runelord. (Note: we are still below "living Ancestors" though, and Kragg is one. Due to dorf mentality, we'll probably always be even if we become a downright god... maybe we'll break that bottleneck if we surpass 200 years of age, but even I think that may be too long for a quest, and us not being dorfs may be something age and skill cannot breach regardless.)
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Perhaps some kind of throwing star that constantly drips poison or a crystal blade that ignores armor then breaks off in people to flood them with delicious delicious Dhar!
Alas such trinkets are such a rarity.
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That really doesn't fit her combat style at all, though. In a proper fight she's got a fuckin' ludicrous sword, for stealth takedowns she has a shadow blade that's silent and bypasses obstructions, and for non-lethal she can poke someone and do Mockery of Death. What would a poisoned blade do to add to Mathilde's options?
What could be interesting is a dagger or stiletto as a spellcasting implement. Athames are a classic in fantasy stories, so it's on theme, and a dagger would be both a symbol of Ulgu in particular and a symbol of Ranald. And on the practical level, a dagger is much easier to conceal and takes up much less space than a full staff. It's definitely something I'd like to consider after we get some practice crafting staves.
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What you are missing is that even if you can compesate for the physical aspect you still have to consider the psycological one.
In the same way many modern professions that aren't dependent on physical performance tend to be dominated be one gender, a fantasy fighting populaion would still be tremedously male dominated, barring some external presure, because the fact that the personality traits that lead one to seek and even excell in martial pursuits being slight more prevalent on males means the small fraction of the population who decides to build a life around then will be almost exclusively composed of then independet of innate war utility.
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I would argue that these traits are cultural, not genetic, but I really think that would derail the thread, so I think this discussion should stop before the QM asks us to stop it. As such, I will not post anything further on this particular topic because it seems that it just became waaaay too explosive for a quest thread.
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Yeah, but we could see a reconnaissance force at pretty much any time. Numbers are something the Skaven have.
it speaks classical human, so Kazrik could learn that one, (hell, maybe that was want he has been doing lately)
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Dragon speaks Classical.
I'd bet there are dwarves who speak that, and that has the bonus of not pissing the dragon off by requiring it to speak the language of the water-folk.
SaltyWaffles
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@BoneyM
A while back, you mentioned how the Colleges don't think that Skaven has actual sorcerers/mages, and that even bringing the corpse of the Eshin Sorcerer-Assassin wouldn't mean anything because a corpse doesn't prove he could wield magic.
But surely Mathilde could just write a paper on her observations of the Skaven sorcerer? Especially since her standing with the Colleges is pretty damn high, her standing with the Emperor/Empress is pretty high, and her standing with Algard and Dragomas is very high. She's a freaking Court Wizard to a Karak, which should speak volumes about how trustworthy she is.
And it's pretty hard to doubt her or dismiss her observations as "potentially mistaken in what she saw" when she can say "I was literally mere feat from him when I witnessed him manipulate Ulgu and Dhar into a spell and kill someone else mere feet away from me with it, and no warpstone or device was used, and I'm exceptionally good at seeing the Winds of Magic, both ambiently and in people". At that point, you either accept her testimony or call her a liar.
Besides, the only evidence you can really get that a race can cast magic is witness testimony, if the corpses of spellcasters are insufficient proof. And as the Grey College knows all too well, living witnesses of expert assassins using a lore of magic that is specialized for stealth and assassination are a rare thing indeed if said assassins want to keep it hidden.
And as for the paper--is a mage using a normal Wind--Ulgu, in this case--to manipulate Dhar rather than manipulating Dhar directly a novel idea to the Colleges? Or is that exactly what necromancy is, just with Shyish? Or does necromancy not have the same kind of purely indirect manipulate of dhar via Shyish as the Eshin Sorcerer's spell had (except with Ulgu)?
A while back, you mentioned how the Colleges don't think that Skaven has actual sorcerers/mages, and that even bringing the corpse of the Eshin Sorcerer-Assassin wouldn't mean anything because a corpse doesn't prove he could wield magic.
But surely Mathilde could just write a paper on her observations of the Skaven sorcerer? Especially since her standing with the Colleges is pretty damn high, her standing with the Emperor/Empress is pretty high, and her standing with Algard and Dragomas is very high. She's a freaking Court Wizard to a Karak, which should speak volumes about how trustworthy she is.
And it's pretty hard to doubt her or dismiss her observations as "potentially mistaken in what she saw" when she can say "I was literally mere feat from him when I witnessed him manipulate Ulgu and Dhar into a spell and kill someone else mere feet away from me with it, and no warpstone or device was used, and I'm exceptionally good at seeing the Winds of Magic, both ambiently and in people". At that point, you either accept her testimony or call her a liar.
Besides, the only evidence you can really get that a race can cast magic is witness testimony, if the corpses of spellcasters are insufficient proof. And as the Grey College knows all too well, living witnesses of expert assassins using a lore of magic that is specialized for stealth and assassination are a rare thing indeed if said assassins want to keep it hidden.
And as for the paper--is a mage using a normal Wind--Ulgu, in this case--to manipulate Dhar rather than manipulating Dhar directly a novel idea to the Colleges? Or is that exactly what necromancy is, just with Shyish? Or does necromancy not have the same kind of purely indirect manipulate of dhar via Shyish as the Eshin Sorcerer's spell had (except with Ulgu)?
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I mean, this is one of the available topics to write a paper on, and I assume that "the colleges now know that Eshin Sorcerers exist" is one of the benefits of writing said paper.
Mopman43
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That one, I'm reasonably confident.
I personally think that Bray Shamans do the same thing with Ghur.
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I wonder if we can get an omake of that dwarf- plucked out of obscurity offscreen to become the Diplomat Prince's personal Dragon Whisperer.
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I wonder if we can get an omake of that dwarf- plucked out of obscurity offscreen to become the Diplomat Prince's personal Dragon Whisperer.
Hmm. We know that a there's a lot of contact between the Karaz Ankor and the city of Tobaro, so there are lots of dwarves that speak Tilean - and Classical is the root language of Tilean, so there's certainly a few dwarves that speak it.
Most would probably be involved in examining particularly old or historical accounts or trades around Tobaro? Some poor dwarf who's used to negotiations with the Marcelli's suddenly finds himself recruited to act as a translator for an emperor dragon?
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I wonder if the grounding in Tilean would result in some odd choices of phrase when translating Sparklebutt's words back into Khazalid?
"My Prince, it says it, uh, will make you an offer you cannot refuse."
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[grunts]
Better get on that then.
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Next turn we can have Max dictate again and pump out the Eshin Sorcerer paper while it's still at neutral, part 2 of the Reikspiel dictionary, and a third thing; I think that publishing the insights into Skaven tactics would be a good synergistic thing to do, but another possibility is the first half of the book on the We.
Just a little warning that just because we write a paper on it doesn't mean everyone in the college will believe us, we have good starting, but some people...
also, I feel like that is to many papers now that they aren't popping out of the woodworks.
I would like to put max back on artefacts to work with his gold boy powers.
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Depends how it gets distributed. As Mathilde, it's not likely to be worth much, but as the anonymous source of a Queekish dictionary, "by the way, this is what an Eshin Sorcerer looks like..."
shepsquared
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We haven't cared about not being believed when we published stuff before, why bother worrying now?
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Indeed, the moment someone verifies our Queekish translations we get a riduculous amount of rep regarding anything scaven, which buys us a lot of leeway in terms of getting them to accept anything else skaven-related.