Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
Given what Kazrik and Edda have been getting up to, it's probably not as much of an issue as you might think.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
- Start date
- Fantasy Users' Choice!
Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
That is what I was getting at, yes. I was talking to Omegahugger, remember.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Wish that there was a way that we all could have done a blind vote.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Then again for all I know they are dwarf engaged by this point?
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Their relationship has not been formalized that we know of, and given that they are on a council with us and that both are Big Fucking Deals from the royal clans of their home karaks, such a formalization would have been impossible to miss.
That said, Boney canonized my suggestion that the same dwarf phrase (which literally means "searching for small pieces of gold") means something analogous to "picking out wedding rings" as well as "giving each other orgasms", so, uh, maybe that's heavily on their minds?
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
A fair point. On the other hand, given the timeframe dwarves think in terms of, I wouldn't be surprised if what we're actually seeing is something like "dwarves spend about five years with an unspoken understanding that they will, barring some truly unexpected and tragic occurrence, become engaged, before they actually become engaged."
Probably because calling off the engagement is an irreversible and Grudge-triggering action and so dwarves take the time to make damn sure they're not making a mistake, before they do it.
So like... they're what counts as 'engaged' by human standards, because by dwarven standards 'engaged' means "Imma kill a motherfucker if something messes up this wedding."
Surprised this vote is still ongoing so I guess might as well vote, took a look at who people voted for to pick ones I don't mind and that I remember. Which was too many so then removed some.
[X] Journeywoman Panoramia
[X] Elector Countess Roswita van Hal
[X] The Ice Dragon of Karag Zilfin
[X] Vicereine Cadaeth
[X] Asarnil the Dragonlord
[X] King Belegar Ironhammer
[X] The We
[X] Magisters Esbern and Seija
[X] Governor Wilhelmina Hochschild
[X] Journeywoman Panoramia
[X] Elector Countess Roswita van Hal
[X] The Ice Dragon of Karag Zilfin
[X] Vicereine Cadaeth
[X] Asarnil the Dragonlord
[X] King Belegar Ironhammer
[X] The We
[X] Magisters Esbern and Seija
[X] Governor Wilhelmina Hochschild
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
I'd believe that. It's pretty similar to how betrothal was viewed in a lot of Europe during the Early Modern Era, as opposed to the modern notion of engagement as a non-binding commitment.
ether BoneyM is very busy or they are taking this chance to plan out some future plotlines.
- Location
- Greece
That, or they are looking at the dragon in despair, thinking "maybe if I give it a few more days, it will fall off the cutoff line"
(Yes, I am pro dragon. I just like a bit of self depreciating humour from time to time)
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- Location
- Before the Ninth Gate
Alternatively, waiting for voting to stop.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Interested voters are infinite. This thread has had the highest voting numbers... Period, I think?
- Location
- Singapore
That, or they are looking at the dragon in despair, thinking "maybe if I give it a few more days, it will fall off the cutoff line"
Given BoneyM.... threatened to have the story go that way if an unconventional Choice made it in due to the thread having it's jollies, rather than a serious interest in the character, he probably did have some plans for how the unconventional ships were supposed to work. Else, this thread would not have been credible.
The record was the Dragonbone vs Trade Ledger Loot vote after beating Alkharad, with 390 votes. There are currently 341 votes cast for this particular romance vote - significantly higher than the Romance Yes/No vote.
I have a suspicion that subsequent Romance votes may well see even more voter engagement, if it's possible, as voters have even more information to judge between candidates and make up their minds.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
I think we're down to more or less the equilibrium rate where new voters are coming in because they've just discovered the quest or are returning to it after a long hiatus...
- Location
- Aotearoa
It's also been open a long time, enthusiasm and engagement are perhaps only part of the story there. There might also be 'negative enthusiasm' as in "if we have to have romance, there are some people I absolutely don't want to see", perhaps explaining some of the votes-for-the-competition.
Or a softer "if we have to have romance, then here are my somewhat reluctant preferences."
(Also, someone just restored the JoPan tie.)
This probably sounds like a rather negative note on the vote. Apologies for that, Boney.
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- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Speaking of which, you're new to posting in this thread. What's your origin story for coming to DL, and do you plan to be as effortposty here as you are over in Victoria Falls?
(I was pretty excited to see you start posting here! I like your VF material.)
Amethyst Ambition
- Location
- Earth
My name is Greta Laurer, and I am a genius, wizard, mercenary, thief, and any number of occupations besides. I know, it's a gift. But you don't care about me. What you want to know, if you're reading this, is how I managed to acquire the most valuable treasure in this dwarf hold, and how nobody suspects a thing.
While any two bit mook can carry out a smash'n grab, against the likes of the Dämmerlichtreiter, that's an easy recipe for failure. Some targets require a little more finesse, and maybe some charm. This target? Good luck, and odds are that'll be against you too, if you catch my drift. Any person with good sense knows the value of getting to know the lay of land. In other words, proper planning and preparation are the key ingredients at hand. Add in a dash of natural intrigue skills, a pinch of worldly experience, all mixed in a solution of smart thinking, and as my fellow journeywoman Pandoramia would put it, you'll have a potent brew.
Now, the private residence of The Wizard of Karak Seven Peaks is not an insecure location by any reasonable metric. Why, even a child could point out the basic facts of the matter. Strong, sturdy walls of stone. Altitude, and above thriving city of potential defenders at that. Ancient relics of runic wrath. A hellish death tower wielding the disapproving gaze of the dwarven underworld. An impossibly large two headed wolf. A shadow army of secret shadow warriors sent by the Gray Order to carry out secret missions in the shadows. The original Liber Mortis, complete with a cabal of hidden vampires and master necromancers. A contingent of scantily clad elfish supplicants, eager— Ahem. Right. Not sure how that got in there. I assure you, dear reader, that I have personally and thoroughly assessed the validity of all these claims. In any case, it suffices to say that it would take an small army to breach the defenses conventionally. Not a large one, because we all know how the last one turned out.
The key is to attack unconventionally, from an unexpected angle. But even the spiciest elixir can fail to work, and Adele always says that no plan survives contact with the enemy. I had thought up a good plan, but this principle became abundantly clear to me the moment Wathilde Meber walked up to me and offered a cookie...
---
"So, what do you think?"
"On one hand, I'm touched that you're writing about the reclamation, even if it's a fictional dramatized account. On the other hand, why do I have a, and I quote, 'contingent of scantily clad elfish supplicants?'"
"It draws in interest from the trashy romance crowd. No, don't give me that look, it's true!"
Mathilde let out a sigh.
"I will... reluctantly... approve of this venture."
"You won't regret this!"
"IF you give me a copy of all your manuscripts beforehand so I can be sure they don't contain classified information."
"Distribute it through the EIC for me and I'll give you co-authorship."
While any two bit mook can carry out a smash'n grab, against the likes of the Dämmerlichtreiter, that's an easy recipe for failure. Some targets require a little more finesse, and maybe some charm. This target? Good luck, and odds are that'll be against you too, if you catch my drift. Any person with good sense knows the value of getting to know the lay of land. In other words, proper planning and preparation are the key ingredients at hand. Add in a dash of natural intrigue skills, a pinch of worldly experience, all mixed in a solution of smart thinking, and as my fellow journeywoman Pandoramia would put it, you'll have a potent brew.
Now, the private residence of The Wizard of Karak Seven Peaks is not an insecure location by any reasonable metric. Why, even a child could point out the basic facts of the matter. Strong, sturdy walls of stone. Altitude, and above thriving city of potential defenders at that. Ancient relics of runic wrath. A hellish death tower wielding the disapproving gaze of the dwarven underworld. An impossibly large two headed wolf. A shadow army of secret shadow warriors sent by the Gray Order to carry out secret missions in the shadows. The original Liber Mortis, complete with a cabal of hidden vampires and master necromancers. A contingent of scantily clad elfish supplicants, eager— Ahem. Right. Not sure how that got in there. I assure you, dear reader, that I have personally and thoroughly assessed the validity of all these claims. In any case, it suffices to say that it would take an small army to breach the defenses conventionally. Not a large one, because we all know how the last one turned out.
The key is to attack unconventionally, from an unexpected angle. But even the spiciest elixir can fail to work, and Adele always says that no plan survives contact with the enemy. I had thought up a good plan, but this principle became abundantly clear to me the moment Wathilde Meber walked up to me and offered a cookie...
---
"So, what do you think?"
"On one hand, I'm touched that you're writing about the reclamation, even if it's a fictional dramatized account. On the other hand, why do I have a, and I quote, 'contingent of scantily clad elfish supplicants?'"
"It draws in interest from the trashy romance crowd. No, don't give me that look, it's true!"
Mathilde let out a sigh.
"I will... reluctantly... approve of this venture."
"You won't regret this!"
"IF you give me a copy of all your manuscripts beforehand so I can be sure they don't contain classified information."
"Distribute it through the EIC for me and I'll give you co-authorship."
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Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
...I just had an image of a Giant Panda Wizard giving worldly advice through hand-written signs like something out of Ranma 1/2. I do not regret a thing.
On the other hand, I find the idea that Gretel would include the Liber Mortis on a whim—she is an Amethyst Wizard, after all—hilarious, because it would actually be true. Not that Mathilde would ever mention that, of course. Let people think it's just another trashy element of an overly dramatic fictional story.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
It means that Abel is off the list in this exact moment. This is because Mathilde recognizes that at her current level of necromancy mastering, she would be unable to raise Abelhelm in a way that also preserved his free will (which is obviously a requirement for a relationship). You'll note that Alkharad -probably the greatest necromancer we've spoken to- needed to catch Mathilde at the moment of her death if he wanted to keep her agency in the matter.
This list is not set in stone, and it stands to reason that just as individuals can be subtracted to it, they can also be added.
For those wondering, the vote remains open entirely because I haven't got a new update to deliver, so at least it's on a vote that stands out. No current ETA, I'm chipping away at it when I'm in the right mindset but that's not a huge amount of the time. I'm between psychs and as a result I'm currently muddling through life unmedicated, which I'm managing but doesn't often leave me with much left in the tank at the end of the day. This would have been a much more temporary situation if the world hadn't gone into lockdown.
I'm been really looking over this Quest for a good long while, and I'm tossing my hat into the ring.
[X] Journeywoman Panoramia.
[X] Journeywoman Panoramia.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
If either of you thinks there are any other viable candidates, you might want to approval-vote for them. There's a good chance that BoneyM will be interested in more than just the top one or two candidates, or at least pay some mind to them.
[Remember, it's entirely possible that one or both of the leading candidates isn't even interested in Mathilde that way!]
13th Bee
Worker
- Location
- Tennessee, USA.
Psychiatrists can do video and phone appointments, as far as I'm aware (my psychiatrist is switching over to them for the foreseeable future, at least, but it may be different in different jurisdictions). I could see some not being willing to do the new patient assessment and interview stuff that way, but you should still be able to find a provider even with the lockdowns.
So I've been told. The wheels are turning, but they are doing so much slower than they normally would.