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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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pucflek said:
I really feel the need to stress that Book of Volans turned the person actually attuned to the wind of the Supreme Patriarch who wrote it immediately fucking insane. No ifs, no buts.

Maybe don't fucking prod the one thing that has a significant chance to cause quest end, okay? And no, Ranald's coin won't help here, because its about luck. Luck turning the tide against book that makes people insane makes you trip when you are about to open the book, not make you more likely to withstand whatever the actual fuck a writing of non-chaotic Super Wizard did to make Lord Magister go cray cray.

(I dunno what the fuck was Volans thinking when he penned it, and i don't really want to find out).
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Volans didn't write it. How could he, it contains knowledge of all eight Winds. It was written by all eight of the MPs of the time, so notable names are Volans and Von Tarnus.

Boney said:
No. You could dock the gyrocarriage in the flying tower and use it to get from it to nearby locations that may not be equipped with flying tower mooring facilities.
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Sheer foolishness! All places should have flying tower mooring facilities!
 
deathofrats0808 said:
Sheer foolishness! All places should have flying tower mooring facilities!
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Don't worry, at least k8p, laurelorn, our fief and (even if we have to enforce it with violence) Altdorf will have such facilities promptly!

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Boney said:
No Battle Altar. Every one is bespoke and the work of a different variety of genius. If you want one, build it.
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I'm assuming that a flying tower would get cannons and general defenses but anything specialized is something we would have to add ourselves.
 
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Execute/Dumbo said:
At the risk of sounding pretentious, I'm drawn to the airship/flying wizards tower idea because I feel like there's a bunch of thematic relevance to how Mathilde, through the Waystone Project, was able to materially help the world by uniting her scattered and sometimes uncertain loyalties to achieve something far beyond what would have been possible for any one of them, proving once and for all that all her efforts and struggle to care for others no matter how painful it was was meaningful. She's not free from her Divided Loyalties (title drop), of course, but in a sense I feel like what she's achieved with the Waystones is a perfect bookend to her life so far, emphasized here by the miraculous twist of fate that was catching the Asp that led her to resolving two of the great mysteries of the Colleges in front of all the Patriarchs.

Mathilde won. She changed the world, for everyone she cared about and will continue to care about. I think getting that airship is a way for Mathilde to step into a new chapter of her life, doing whatever strikes her fancy because she can trust that she's done well.
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A thought suddenly occurred to me.

You know what's cool? A giant flying Airship.

You know what's also cool: Waystones.

You know what has an Air transmission method we could look into more? - Waystones.

Yes, I am proposing the Flying Battle Waystone Library (Nexus).

Of course we might need some more work from the project team members, and the Jades to actually tell us how to tap into the Waystone's power but just imagine.
 
Guys! GUYS
If/when we get a flying base, we will be able to show up to the Elfcation in STYLE
Just imagine a huge, fog-cloaked ship (or tower I guess) silently floating up to the shore
 
I'd prefer a ship.
We already have a tower, and i am not interested in moving.
But a ship not only gives us a faster long range mobility option that could carry a gyrocopter for quick short range movement, but also allows us to make Marienburg shit bricks.

Marienburger: "They got so fed up with their navy having to pay tolls they started to make their ships fly?"

The future of the Empire as a major naval power rests in our hands people, we must rise to meet this challenge.
 
Somic said:
Guys! GUYS
If/when we get a flying base, we will be able to show up to the Elfcation in STYLE
Just imagine a huge, fog-cloaked ship (or tower I guess) silently floating up to the shore
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I doubt they would be able to make it in six months and people want to go next turn, still it's a cool idea for other places in the future. There is a difference between showing up in say Cathay on horseback or even in a gyro and in that thing.
 
Honestly in so far I don't really like the flying ship/tower idea. Mostly because I don't think it's something we will be using.

If we had plans to go on some kind of cool expedition it'd cool, but as it's I feel it'll be sitting gathering dust or only being used to show off.
 
I am really sad that i can't think of a way to make a super-gun. Mathilde already has a supersword, she has a superstaff (+1 magic and making all mist spells one grade easier including battlemagic is no fucking joke) but the gun is average at best. I just can't think of a way beyond basic bitch blades of aiban and some payload on bullet to trick out our gun that would be worth wholeass Big Favour. Real shame.

Just to make sure @Boney make me something like Silver Seal as a replacement for our boon of hysh talisman slot is actually possible ask right? I know Von Tarnus is not alive anymore but general ask for as potent a protection charm as possible (that does not interfere with out other magic stuff) is a valid write in no?
 
Boney said:
Yes, that's something the owner should be free to customize themselves instead of just be off-the-rack.
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Hmm, I wonder if we could make a Knightbringer style enchantment that has several of them bound to the tower. Would need to figure out the details, but being able to sick the murderblender knights on people would be cool.

Actually yeah, whether we go with a Ship or Tower, I want to enchant it with some bound Knightbringers that we can send charging out of it.
 
Occurs to me...couldn't we ask the Collages for a ton of Books regarding their DEEP Lore, that we'd normally never be able to get ahold of, get them to send us specialized equipment, and try to aim for a pretty big bonus to our magical escapades?

Another option I suppose is creating a backup of the College in the Eight Peaks, investing in a more then average Branch College. As considering that the Superweapon *should* hold things down quite well, I can only imagine a group of Wizards making any siege a further hellscape to accomplish. Granted I'm somewhat under the impression that the Colleges have reached a soft limit on their membership numbers, in terms of how many they can recruit, and I'm unsure if asking for a backup College in Eight Peaks is feasible manpower-wise.
 
Sinsystems said:
Hmm, I wonder if we could make a Knightbringer style enchantment that has several of them bound to the tower. Would need to figure out the details, but being able to sick the murderblender knights on people would be cool.

Actually yeah, whether we go with a Ship or Tower, I want to enchant it with some bound Knightbringers that we can send charging out of it.
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The greenskin finally manage to punch through the barrage of cannon, wreck the portcullis only to be assailed by goddamn spectral knights. Unfair.
The Void said:
Occurs to me...couldn't we ask the Collages for a ton of Books regarding their DEEP Lore, that we'd normally never be able to get ahold of, get them to send us specialized equipment, and try to aim for a pretty big bonus to our magical escapades?

Another option I suppose is creating a backup of the College in the Eight Peaks, investing in a more then average Branch College. As considering that the Superweapon *should* hold things down quite well, I can only imagine a group of Wizards making any siege a further hellscape to accomplish. Granted I'm somewhat under the impression that the Colleges have reached a soft limit on their membership numbers, in terms of how many they can recruit, and I'm unsure if asking for a backup College in Eight Peaks is feasible manpower-wise.
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The problem with the really big secret books is that they need to stay right where they are. Colleges train their librarians on the place and those librarians are then never allowed to venture out of colleges because thats how much of a security risk it is. Even if they allowed us to make copies of those terror books, we wouldn't have the security necessary to keep them safe. There is an uncomfortable balance to how much we could realistically take.
 
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Retrueno said:
Honestly in so far I don't really like the flying ship/tower idea. Mostly because I don't think it's something we will be using.

If we had plans to go on some kind of cool expedition it'd cool, but as it's I feel it'll be sitting gathering dust or only being used to show off.
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I mean we are planning a lot of potential expeditions, just as examples:
  1. Go to the Mountains of Morn and look for a source of Titan Metal
  2. Go to Cathay for the same also Waystone lore and also Ninjas who might be interested in offering training (someone trained Clan Eshin)
  3. Find Albion and trade the secret of steel for the secrets of the literal Old Ones, also make Tocher's day
  4. Look for Zorn in the Southlands, that is the last potential lost Hold
  5. Look for the Spine of Sotek Dwarfs in Lustria, that axe had to come from somewhere and given that it was found in the company of Lustrian Gold...
  6. Launch another expedition to Dum now that we know what their deal is, a flying ship would be a solid core for that since it worked in canon
 
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Dutchman said:
Could we ask that our waystone project be given more funding and backing from the Colleges as a whole.
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We already finished the "low" hanging fruit just fine. All thats left is deployment and thats bankrolled by those that really want those fancy rocks.

Nexus research could be an option but quite frankly, first you need to find a big enough place in borderlands, because experiments involving that much energy could blow up provinces.
 
While I def think a flying tower is a good idea, letting us move about even more effectively than we already do with the gyros... Would it be possible to ask for permission to futz around with Dhar with *this* amount of clout, if it's the only thing we're asking for. Or would asking just get an immediate slap down and more random demon checks put on the schedule.

Like I know Dhar is magically radioactive and turns you evil... But,
 
hostelcalifornia said:
While I def think a flying tower is a good idea, letting us move about even more effectively than we already do with the gyros... Would it be possible to ask for permission to futz around with Dhar with *this* amount of clout, if it's the only thing we're asking for. Or would asking just get an immediate slap down and more random demon checks put on the schedule.

Like I know Dhar is magically radioactive and turns you evil... But,
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No, because the issue with Dhar isn't that we lack the standing, it's that messing around with it drives you violently insane and poisons the world. We do have a solution to the former, but even admitting to that will get us burned at the stake.
 
DragonParadox said:
I mean we are planning a lot of potential expeditions, just as examples:
  1. Go to the Mountains of Morn and look for a source of Titan Metal
  2. Go to Cathay for the same also Waystone lore and also Ninjas who might be interested in offering training (someone trained Clan Eshin)
  3. Find Albion and trade the secret of steel for the secrets of the literal Old Ones, also make Tocher's day
  4. Look for Zorn in the Southlands, that is the last potential lost Hold
  5. Look for the Spine of Sotek Dwarfs in Lustria, that axe had to come from somewhere and given that it was found in the company of Lustrian Gold...
  6. Launch another expedition to Dum now that we know what their deal is, a flying ship would be a solid core for that since it worked in canon
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I wouldn't call any of those plans instead of idle thoughts and 'wouldn't this be cool' scenarios. Only the first one is really relevant to anything weve done before.

You might as well say we have plans to become a second Nagash with our mastery of necromancy.
 
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hostelcalifornia said:
While I def think a flying tower is a good idea, letting us move about even more effectively than we already do with the gyros... Would it be possible to ask for permission to futz around with Dhar with *this* amount of clout, if it's the only thing we're asking for. Or would asking just get an immediate slap down and more random demon checks put on the schedule.

Like I know Dhar is magically radioactive and turns you evil... But,
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There is really no good reason for someone already suspected of being threefour daemons in a trench coat to ask if its fine to fudge around with dhar a little bit.
DragonParadox said:
No, because the issue with Dhar isn't that we lack the standing, it's that messing around with it drives you violently insane and poisons the world. We do have a solution to the former, but even admitting to that will get us burned at the stake.
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We don't actually iirc. The Belt helps with the Dhar fucking with our brainmeats iirc but no amount of that helps with the mindset necessary for wielding dhar being virulently bad for remaining a sane and compassionate human being.
 
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I'm wary of going to Cathay except as the absolute last resort if were itching to Go Places, because of the sheer amount of worldbuilding it would force Boney to produce. But flying all around the more known parts of the world is absolutely my jam. If we go for the airship and it turns out to be fast enough to make a comfortable trip to Ulthuan from time to time without wasting an implausibly long period of time just on the travel, we'll get access to a whole new source of shiny stuff! And maybe people to meet!
 
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