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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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NSMS said:
My thoughbarak Varts on what our current end goals for the Waystone Project should be are:
  1. Make sure every contributing member of the project has tributaries and Waystones deployed in their territory.
  2. Develop alternate Waystone designs for when we don't need the absolute best-of-the-best.
  3. Sell Waystones (not necessarily literally) to Bretonnia and other nations who didn't join in the project, but are anti-chaos.
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I'd also like to reclaim/reactivate a few nexuses by using our political/military relationships. We are in a position where gaining the Asur knowledge of Nexuses AND reclaiming a few isn't impossible considering Mathilde's diplomatic contacts and the Project's momentum, ressources and active members.

Boney said:
[ ] Waystone: Negotiate with Ulthuan for details of how to create a Nexus (NEW)
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Start with Barak Varr since it's already an option to get the Asur to reactivate it.

Boney said:
[ ] Waystone: Negotiate with Ulthuan to re-erect Barak Varr's Nexus (NEW)
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Then plan a campaign to liberate/repair another Nexus. Perhaps one in the forest of Shadows, close enough to the Eonir to get them invested, we could probably get the emperor to mobilise the Empire for such an undertaking and Mathilde herself could use her connections to bolster the efforts, we could probably get some help from the dwarves especially if that means subsequent help in their own endeavours and if Kislev just "lends" us Baba Niedzwanka I'd be content, the Asur also have a vested interest in increasing the flow into the Vortex by a whole Nexus.
 
[X] Pan's Treehouse (NEW)
[X] Orb Reveal (NEW-ish)
[X] Silk (NEW)
[X] Karak Vlag books (NEW)
[X] Lord Seilph, the Mystic (NEW)

In other considerations: I feel that the most natural ending for the waystone project is when every one of the participant groups is rolling out a waystone project of their own.

I think it's just Lorelorn and the Forest of Shadow peeps that still are in need of that?
 
So I was thinking of ways to develop Sylvania . The first is a dye works. Most of the old ways to dye stuff was found in berries, snails, lichen and algae. Things that are all found in swamps. Since she is on friendly terms with a swamp religion figure they be perfect to help set it up.

Second is a boat wharf. There is plenty of of lumber that can be dried, bog iron for nails, wood for tar, really everything but hemp for ropes. Yes someone would have to produce all those but the EIC is capable of it. Or better yet Eike is capable of setting these up.

Now he comes the more difficult things. While logging would be somewhat easy it is still a haunted Forrest and getting people to go it o it would be hard. But the trees are old and depends on what type the wood would be valuable. Wood could of course be turned into lumber and charcoal. The dawi would probably love even more charcoal. The cut down Forrest can be turned into grazing land or into farm land. Also Dawi prospectors can be sent into those hills. Or check the swamps for minerals. There may be more than just iron in the swamps.

Edit forgot about the vote

[X] Wissenland
[X] Druchii Diplomats
[X] Skull River Ambush

Small chance of winning I know but I got to try
 
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[X] Orb Reveal (NEW-ish)
[X] Silk (NEW)
[X] Karak Vlag books (NEW)
[X] Pan's Treehouse (NEW)
[X] Lord Seilph, the Mystic (NEW)
[X] Skull River Ambush
 
The gap between shiny new things and anything else is kinda overwhelming already.

[X] Orb Reveal (NEW-ish)
[X] Silk (NEW)
[X] Pan's Treehouse (NEW)
[x] Druchii Diplomats
[X] Skull River Ambush
 
[X] Lord Seilph, the Mystic
[X] Pan's Treehouse
[X] Wissenland
[X] Druchii Diplomats
[X] Reading on Nehekhara
[X] Amber College
[X] Skull River Ambush
[X] Kalashiniviks
[X] Orb Reveal
[X] Silk
 
[X] Pan's Treehouse (NEW)
[X] Karak Vlag books (NEW)
[X] Skull River Ambush
[X] Druchii Diplomats
[X] Lord Seilph, the Mystic (NEW)

I think I'm looking forward to the Karak Vlag books the most. Kislev is always so fascinating every time it shows up in the quest. I really love it, warts and all.
 
As far as the finish line for the Waystone Project goes, I'm surprised no one's brought up what I think would be the natural endpoint: building something that actually makes use of the magic.

Kislev has its Ice Magic, the Dawi have their ancient wonders (and the survival of their entire race), the elves use it to fuel any number of magical infrastructure projects. I want something the Empire can pump magic into for some major effect. Reikland's breadbasket is nice, but it's not really part of the Network so much as a repurposed part that only works while disconnected, and we didn't make it either.

Having our own magical infrastructure running off of the Project is also another reason for people to maintain and not forget about maintaining the Network. Obviously no one wants Dhar around, but unless you're a wizard actively monitoring things, it seems like the sort of thing it'd be easy for rulers to slowly neglect and/or forget about. Actively fuelling something that'll stop working if it's not maintained would help prevent that.

I vaguely remember people talking about propagating Light magic spells for good health along the network, which would be cool. I also expect we might have a better idea of how to use the network to our benefit after looking at Kislev's.

As for the vote:

[X] Pan's Treehouse (NEW)
[X] Orb Reveal (NEW-ish)
[X] Silk (NEW)
[X] Karak Vlag books (NEW)
[X] Lord Seilph, the Mystic (NEW)
[X] Reading on Nehekhara
 
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Deathbybunnies said:
As far as the finish line for the Waystone Project goes, I'm surprised no one's brought up what I think would be the natural endpoint: building something that actually makes use of the magic.

Kislev has its Ice Magic, the Dawi have their ancient wonders (and the survival of their entire race), the elves use it to fuel any number of magical infrastructure projects. I want something the Empire can pump magic into for some major effect. Reikland's breadbasket is nice, but it's not really part of the Network so much as a repurposed part that only works while disconnected, and we didn't make it either.

Having our own magical infrastructure running off of the Project is also another reason for people to maintain and not forget about maintaining the Network. Obviously no one wants Dhar around, but unless you're a wizard actively monitoring things, it seems like the sort of thing it'd be easy for rulers to slowly neglect and/or forget about. Actively fuelling something that'll stop working if it's not maintained would help prevent that.

I vaguely remember people talking about propagating Light magic spells for good health along the network, which would be cool. I also expect we might have a better idea of how to use the network to our benefit after looking at Kislev's.
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That feels like more of a successor or spinoff to the Waystone Project rather than a part of the Project itself given that the only party that would benefit from such a thing is the Empire and the Empire is already doing pretty well without it, Mathilde could get involved in such a project after the Waystone Project concludes or she could leave it as something for other Wizards to work on independently but I don't think it fits within the scope of the Waystone Project itself.
 
Deathbybunnies said:
As far as the finish line for the Waystone Project goes, I'm surprised no one's brought up what I think would be the natural endpoint: building something that actually makes use of the magic.
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NexusEye said:
That feels like more of a successor or spinoff to the Waystone Project rather than a part of the Project itself given that the only party that would benefit from such a thing is the Empire and the Empire is already doing pretty well without it, Mathilde could get involved in such a project after the Waystone Project concludes or she could leave it as something for other Wizards to work on independently but I don't think it fits within the scope of the Waystone Project itself.
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The problem with the Empire itself tapping the waystones is that the articles forbid touching Dhar, and the elves and dwarves and Kislev clearly have ways to deal with the Dhar, but it's kinda hard to figure out how to deal with the Dhar if you're banned from touching the Dhar in the first place. Mathilde could get dispensation for the project because it's patently obvious the waystones have been successfully dealing with Dhar longer than the Empire existed, but anything actively experimental will probably fall under harsher oversight.

Kislev's method of 'ask a god to deal with it' seems the most promising as the Empire lets priests get away with way more than the wizards, but Ranald's reputation isn't gonna hold up to that scrutiny and Mathilde doesn't know many other clergy that well, so one of the daughters or Shallya would be the best bet.
 
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