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Oh and there is another reason to do the anti-plague thing:
  • Tzeench hates us over ruining Only Gork/Mork
  • Slaanesh hates us over Vlag
  • Khorne hates us over the fight at the Kul encampment
  • Nurgle does not hate us
This travesty will not stand. :V
Now, now. It's quite possible that the Black Water canal workers getting sick was the start of some subtle Nurgle cultist plot that never really got the ball rolling :V
 
Oh and there is another reason to do the anti-plague thing:
  • Tzeench hates us over ruining Only Gork/Mork
  • Slaanesh hates us over Vlag
  • Khorne hates us over the fight at the Kul encampment
  • Nurgle does not hate us
This travesty will not stand. :V
Whoa whoa whoa. Tzeentch does not hate us. Tzeentch in fact likes us and loves our antics so much he put us on his sorcerous white list for buffing whenever his energies are around us.
Also he complimented our hat.
 
True, but that is not really us fucking up for Papa Nurgle, that is him trying and failing to mess with us.
(speaking more loudly than necessary)

As we all know, the act of encouraging the creation of a series of canals and locks to connect the Empire with the southern realms is essentially encouraging change. In particular, it ruins the metaphorical stagnation that the monopoly of Marienburg enabled. It was essentially an open challenge to Nurgle, and if his minions did in fact try to defy it, then they failed at one of the first steps.

And now, despite the Plague Father's best attempts, we're making another canal. Truly, there is no hole we will not dig, to change things.

Whoa whoa whoa. Tzeentch does not hate us. Tzeentch in fact likes us and loves our antics so much he put us on his sorcerous white list for buffing whenever his energies are around us.
Also he complimented our hat.
Tzeentch holds multitudes. I'm sure he can simultaneously love Mathilde for being a very dedicated wizard that encourages change everywhere while simultaneously hating that she's a knight who wields a giant fuck-off sword. And, hell, there's one Tzeentchian cult that believes that the Colleges 'stole' magic from Tzeentch; perhaps because the Eight Winds do not obey the whims of Chaos in general (Dhar) or the specific energies of Nurgle, Slaanesh or Tzeentch.
 
Whoa whoa whoa. Tzeentch does not hate us. Tzeentch in fact likes us and loves our antics so much he put us on his sorcerous white list for buffing whenever his energies are around us.
Also he complimented our hat.
I think Khorne probably feels similarly.

Khorne: "On the one hand, magic user. On the other, she's really good at going stabby-stabby chop."
 
The Knights of Immolation say hello. Also have you seen Aekold Helbrass? Tzeentch loves big swords and magic knights.
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Got me there... I suppose we can maybe say that he might hate how Mathilde is so consistent in her loyalty and friendship with dwarfs. Tzeentch really likes change for change's sake and that's not usually the way Mathilde does stuff.
 
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Got me there... I suppose we can maybe say that he might hate how Mathilde is so consistent in her loyalty and friendship with dwarfs. Tzeentch really likes change for change's sake and that's not usually the way Mathilde does stuff.
I dunno. She's been making some pretty big changes wherever she goes.
 
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Got me there... I suppose we can maybe say that he might hate how Mathilde is so consistent in her loyalty and friendship with dwarfs. Tzeentch really likes change for change's sake and that's not usually the way Mathilde does stuff.
Looks at how Eight Peaks is pretty much a mish mash of cultures, is adapting to having humans around, the We, Mathilde helping Thorek upend the Runesmiths. And that's just for Dawi related stuff.
 
Yeah, which makes it difficult to judge who's the greatest necromancer according to their biggest ritual accomplishments, so we kinda have to look at other achievements and character vibes, like how Kemmler's shtick is having built upon all the knowledge of his forebears to the point of creating his own Lore of Necromancy+10.
I think it's a bit silly to say that because a wizard was able to innovate on their lore it means that they must have been more powerful then their predecessors, but even then, even looking back at the lore of the Lichemaster, army of the Lichemaster describes it as such:
Being a Necromancer of almost incomparable power, Kemmler utilises more powerful versions of the spells of Undeath.
Meaning that even Kemmler's own background description feels the need to tell us that as powerful a necromancer as Kemmler is, he cannot be said to have power that's incomparable to all other necromancers, which is saying something given how fond Warhammer writing is of using purple prose to hype up the character it is describing at the time.

What necromancer could have been so powerful as to deny Kemmler the title of supreme necromancer? Perhaps the one whose spell books remain as coveted artifacts by even some of the most powerful necromancers in the setting in their own right such as Vlad Von Carstein, Melkhior and Zacharias the Ever Living? Who forged some of the most powerful magic items the setting has seen? Who committed the largest casting of necromancy in the setting and whom even the proud high elves dare not say that even the greatest of their living wizards can surpass him?

No, Morathi took part in Malekith's massed covens of warlocks, who collectively caused the Sundering.

That kind of goes back to the point that most of the castings of great rituals seem to have been collaborative acts. At the top of my head the only ones of the greatest rituals in Warhammer who were cast singlehandedly are Nagash's great ritual of reawakening and the Deliverance of Itza by lord Kroak, and if we discount Nagash's ritual due to all the warpstone he had available then that just leaves lord Kroak, though I suppose saying that Kroak was at level of his own in terms of magical power is a reasonable point, but then it doesn't do much when comparing all the wizards competing for the "rankings" after him.

The point is that when each book repeats the claim right down to the same phrasing, then at some point you have to acknowledge that this isn't entirely a considered and deliberate lore statement, and may well have been at least in part just copying and pasting old material to save time.

How is a lore point being repeated through multiple army books mean it is not considered and deliberate? Unlike something that appears in a single army book, it means that said statement is considered so solid that it was held to be true even through multiple editions. Compare that to the far more brief existence of the lore of the Lichemaster, which was removed entirely in later editions.
 
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Well, not so much removed in later editions as continued to not be mentioned in later editions.

The sole place it appears in is Kemmler's army list in a White Dwarf issue.

Fair, though I think that just strengthens my point about how extrapolating from the lore's existence solely in a White Dwarf issue to mean that Kemmler must have been a greater necromancer then Nagash to the point that it trumps and was more deliberate a statement then one that had been repeated by no less then three separate army books across three different editions about how Teclis is said to only match Nagash is something of a reach.

And even then, the description of the lore of the lichemaster itself makes a point to mention that Kemmler was, in fact, not the greatest necromancer to have ever lived.
 
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1. For most purposes, there's enough ambient Winds around to just do whatever a Wizard wants to do. For the few exceptions, they just build something specific for that purpose. The Jades are the only ones with endlessly-scalable peacetime demands and the techniques to fulfill them. It is a bit chicken-and-egg - why develop techniques for using massive amounts of magic if you don't have access to it? why seek access to massive amounts of magic if you don't have techniques to use it?
The Order that comes to mind as benefiting the most is the Light Order IMO. Given very high amounts of magic they could cure diseases and heal in ways different from the Jades and they could also erect massive wards against demonic influences and such. Or, I don't know, power all of a city's street lights.

There's also Celestials doing large scale weather control and even more absurd levels of future watching.

The Amethysts could maybe do something useful in Sylvania after we set up enough Waystones there, though that might run the risk of also transforming the whole region into a Shyish wasteland.

Anyway, since the Lights could easily benefit and they also have two LMs in Laurelorn, I could easily see developments there without any involvement by Mathilde.

Edit: Apparently most of my Hysh related point was already made before I posted this. Sorry.
 
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Or, I don't know, power all of a city's street lights.

Why would we use hysh to power street lights when we literally invented an azyr powered lightbulb.

A Method of Creating a Bright and Even Light with Azyrric Energy, by J. Adela Burgstaller (Bright), M. Mathilde Weber (Grey), J. Hubert Denzel (Celestial), 2485.

Actually, that might fix the Celestial College's problem—having the elemental focused wizards build infrastructure by using lightning to power things would make them more prestigious in the eyes of the college.

Edit: I wonder if we could do a trial run of azyr powered light in our library.
 
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Why would we use hysh to power street lights when we literally invented an azyr powered lightbulb.



Actually, that might fix the Celestial College's problem—having the elemental focused wizards build infrastructure by using lightning to power things would make them more prestigious in the eyes of the college.

Edit: I wonder if we could do a trial run of azyr powered light in our library.
I wouldn't trust early electrical stuff around our library, tbh. Too high of a risk of something overheating and catching fire, which in a place with lots of paper isn't great.
 
Honestly, the Light Order already has techniques to boost the power of their spells by getting a chorus of lesser apprentices to back them up, it probably wouldn't be that big a stretch to edit those spells to plug into a different power source.
 
And mechanically it's not like we have a lot to do with Egrimm, certainly not much that is time sensitive. Cython will still be there a year from now. But if we can pull a 1-2 of Waystone draw... Actually wouldn't it be funny if this gets Egrimm enough prestige to overcome both Alric and Mira and become patriarch. After all while they were slinging mud at each other he was over here building inter-college relations and contemplating the mysteries of Hysh.
 
I wonder if magic tapped from a Waystone has the same property here that it does in 2E.

The/a reason for Miscasts is that the Winds are volatile, that they blow variably so a caster can lose their grasp of the magic as their strength fluctuates.

Magic tapped from a Waystone, by contrast is stable and predictable.

The way this is represented is that more powerful casters can draw on more magic (an number of dice up to their magic score, IIRC), but the more magic they draw on, the more likely they are of rolling a double, and so miscasting.

When using the Tap lesser magic to draw in magic from a Waystone when casting a spell ritually or performing a big R ritual, the extra magic from that doesn't increase the risk of causing a Miscast that using more magic usually does.

The Tap lesser magic's main purpose isn't just to get more magic, it's to get safer magic.
 
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