Yeah, don't even think about firing. If there is anything more than a light breeze across the side of that monstrosity it should barrel roll right over.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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I know, the boat in question is utterly ridiculous.
But it is ridiculous in a way that some real life people would absolutely try to acchieve.
And punt guns are basicly the same thing, but smaller, because physics.
The boat does not really strike me as any worse than the clockwork horses, it's basicly magic.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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A Hellhammer was also modified to be used on land by Luthor Harkon in her majesty Queen Bess.
consequences
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We could totally have mechanized one if we had gone for the Magic Schoolbus. Sigh.
The design is relatively similar to the age of sail's "gunboat" concept. A relatively small ship, with a single large forward-facing cannon. They filled the role taken by the torpedo boat and then the Destroyer in more modern times - a cheap vessel with little to no defenses, that could take down larger vessels using swarm tactics.
The difference here is, of course, the absurd size. That cannon isn't cheap or easily replaceable. I assume it's more of the naval equivalent of a siege weapon, intended to conduct shore bombardment, force its opponents to come into range of the rest of the fleet, and/or to break an exceptionally heavily armored target at closer range.
EDIT: The other advantage of a gunboat is that the small size and shallow draft let it operate better in coastal waters, rivers, lakes etc while still having more punch than a swivel gun. That's out the window here too.
The difference here is, of course, the absurd size. That cannon isn't cheap or easily replaceable. I assume it's more of the naval equivalent of a siege weapon, intended to conduct shore bombardment, force its opponents to come into range of the rest of the fleet, and/or to break an exceptionally heavily armored target at closer range.
EDIT: The other advantage of a gunboat is that the small size and shallow draft let it operate better in coastal waters, rivers, lakes etc while still having more punch than a swivel gun. That's out the window here too.
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Does anyone have torpedo rams in Warhammer? I know that before self-propelled torpedoes, there was just sticking a bomb with a contact detonator on the end of a long ram, and it seems like that would be a very effective galley tactic against larger or more heavily armored targets, without breaking the setting idiom.
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Not that I know. Note also that torpedo rams weren't contact detonated. Self-propelled torpedos were just really slow and terrible. The ships were therefore designed to 'ram' through harbour defenses, launch torpedos at enemy ships at anchor and then run away very fast. They had both rams and torpedos, rather than torpedos that rammed.
Spar torpedos meanwhile, were above water, and mounted on spears you would stick into the enemy ship before lighting the fuse and then presumably running away. Until at least, the mid 1800s, where an adaptation was made where they could indeed be mounted underwater. They were still "stab a spear into the enemy and leave" though, and were detonated by a pull cord, rather than contact.
Also, if we're going off Man O War, the Dwarfs just have submarines with regular torpedos.
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Yeah, if the empire can field clockwork horses that shoot lightning, then it can field impractically oversized cannon as a naval weapon.
Tasoli
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I mean they probably were designed when Empire learned of the Black Arks, you need big guns to even think about doing any damage to those.
I can actually understand why designers did something like that.
I mean, we ARE researching dimensional pockets. I can think of WORSE ways to use one than to stick a hellblaster cannon in it. Fold it up. Put it in our pocket. Pull it out when we want to make a statement.
Ulgu is the wind of questions. The question is "Can I stick a big enough gun in my pocket?" The answer is YES.
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Actual usable portable pocket dimensions seems more like a far future thing for some other Grey Wizard combining Algard's notes with our AV papers. It's not really within Mathilde's idiom.
Tasoli
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But the real question is "Can I stick big enough Burito in my pocket?" And answer sounds like NO to me.
Please do not take my posting to be in any way shape or form a serious suggestion. I just wanted to put the image of Mathinde cackling like a loon in her witchhunter's hat as she is lifted into the heavens by the rapidly expanding hellblaster cannon that she straddles as it folds back into reality and removes everything in a direction from existence.
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Imperial Soldier: Lady Magister! The army of the Everchosen is advancing toward us!
Mathilde: prepare the artillery! We will rain fire and death upon them!
Imperial Soldier: but Lady Magister, we don't have any cannons!
*Mathilde pulls out a giant cannon from thin air*
Mathilde: will this be enough?
*the entire Imperial Army stops to stare at her*
Algard: Does she enjoy making my life more complicated?
Parabola
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Frankly, the one really practical use I can see for making a practical pocket dimension we can carry around is to be able to bring Agent Wolf to our adventures.
What else are we going to use one for? Getting more loot from enemy forces? Carrying around silly amounts of mundane stuff?
What else are we going to use one for? Getting more loot from enemy forces? Carrying around silly amounts of mundane stuff?
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Look at the bright side: now anyone siggesting banning the Colleges will get murdered by the generals for denying them their easy artillery transport.
neutronium95
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Pulling all eight Morbs out of our hat when we do the gigaflex.
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The hat is big enough for that even without a pocket dimension.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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I think you're either severely underestimating the size of the Orbs or overestimating the size of the hat.
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Isn't there a thing about not being able to make movable liminal realms?
Sinsystems
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Obviously we need to keep a Ulgu Battle Altar in this theoretical pocket dimension.
But in all seriousness, if we succeed in the Liminal realm I propose that we use it to make the restricted section of our library where we will keep the books that absolutely no one except those with express permission can access.
But in all seriousness, if we succeed in the Liminal realm I propose that we use it to make the restricted section of our library where we will keep the books that absolutely no one except those with express permission can access.
"And here is where we have the diary of the world's second most infamous necromancer. Here are books 1,3, and 5-8 of Negash."
Parabola
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Boney's stated that Morbs of Sorcery are human-head-sized, so I'm not so sure about it. It's not a Chaos Dwarf hat, that's for sure.