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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Somic said:
Why would we foil it?
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Double dipping the reward pool.

"Yes. We saved your father. He's paid me and made me a national hero of Kislev. However he's incapacitated and given you full power while he recovers... I made sure he will never recover. While ensuring you get the credit for the the foresight of saving his life.
Oh and I expect a bonus for both absolving you of guilt and blame while ensuring you can visit this father that you loved for as long as he's alive."
 
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Shard said:
Being the Everchosen isn't very tempting when you have to give up the creature comforts of home. Imagine. Giving up silk sheets or gods forbid, access to BOOK
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I still find it hilarious that after the birb man monologued at us, Mathilde's inner monologue reflected how the thread felt more tempted by the Druchii's offers than by Chaos.
 
[X] Nighttime Visit With Style
-[X] Use Mockery of Death so there is no sign of struggle, then stab him in the heart with a Shadow Knife. Leave the room by Substance of Shadows or Smoke and Mirrors, leaving behind an unnaturally quiet death.
 
Boney said:
The general idea is that the amount of work it takes to be in position for a betrayal does more good for the Empire than the betrayal will do bad. If any secretly traitorous Wizard did spend decades setting up a long con betrayal, then it means they spent decades doing good for the Empire. Then when the betrayal comes - and by 'when' I mean 'if' because the comforts and privileges of being a senior and well-respected Lord Magister can be a lot more tempting than the ephemeral promises of whichever power is promising - the Colleges shrug, deploy enough Battle Wizards to either obliterate the traitor or force them to flee off the edge of the map, and then fix the damage and go on with their lives.
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i think the average academic wizard would suffer the most (collague wise) if a high ranquing wizard were to turn coat. just imagine you used their own studies as a central part of your disertation about how to tame the warp, and then they try to summon demons.
 
Parabola said:
I still find it hilarious that after the birb man monologued at us, Mathilde's inner monologue reflected how the thread felt more tempted by the Druchii's offers than by Chaos.
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mathilde: "meh, i give you a 6 out of cuddling whit wolf on the dragon chair, not bad but i have heard better; now, if you had promised to give me books then we could have talked but if i wanted nevulous promises about an imaginary ideal future that may never come i would have just talked to the spider silk tailors"
 
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Boney said:
And then there's you. Well, you don't particularly feel like being an Everchosen just because a living embodiment of lies and trickery tells you that you could do good with it, especially at the cost of burning every bridge you have and with absolutely no benefits or support up front. Morality aside, that offer is just insulting. Even the Druchii have done better. So though there's a part of your mind that does find the thought experiment intriguing - you flex your fingers and remember how much easier it was to exert your will with just a few ambient wisps of Tzeentchian energies - the feathery buggers are going to have to really up their game if they think they're going to sway you.
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heres the passage
 
I don't know whether I have a skewed perception of risk for believing that a Grey Lady Magister is able to hide for one hour without discovery so that we don't half-ass this job and make Boris work harder to paint the evidence against Lahmians. In my view it's a tiny risk in exchange for serving them on a silver platter to Boris, fitting our high standards.

@Boney How much time does Mathilde have allotted to the Nighttime Visit (since the description sounds like a single visit)? Can we stalk the Tzar's sleeping schedule over a week to find the perfect time to minimize risk and find a one hour opening for the Matrix?

And does Mathilde have enough presence of mind while casting the Matrix to instantly react if she was about to be interrupted?
 
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Mellowfellow said:
@Boney How much time does Mathilde have allotted to the Nighttime Visit (since the description sounds like a single visit)? Can we stalk the Tzar's sleeping schedule over a week to find the perfect time to minimize risk and find a one hour opening for the Matrix?
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That sort of minutiae is outside the scope of the vote. Mathilde will do whatever scouting and preparations she deems necessary.

Mellowfellow said:
And does Mathilde have enough presence of mind while casting the Matrix to instantly react if she was about to be interrupted?
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She'll maintain situational awareness, yes.
 
I struggle to see how we can get caught invisibly and silently casting; this isn't going to be a ship-room where one lantern could feasibly light up the whole area for dwarfs trying to see as much as they can in order to figure out how not to drown, this is going to be the swanky bedroom of a head of state trying to sleep. A single candle from a servant isn't going to disrupt our visibility.
 
Whichever Chaos God we hypothetically decide to serve has to offer us three things to be even slightly tempting :
  • A mechanical bonus that can replace the "+5 or +7 to basically every single roll" that BOOKBOON gives us these days
  • A main boon that's powerful enough to replace Ranald's Coin ("+20 to wherever it is most needed, twice")
  • AP Hell mitigation
And that's on top of whatever actually pushes us into considering it, as opposed to riding our current life path's inertia.
 
T_of_A said:
Whichever Chaos God we hypothetically decide to serve has to offer us three things to be even slightly tempting :
  • A mechanical bonus that can replace the "+5 or +7 to basically every single roll" that BOOKBOON gives us these days
  • A main boon that's powerful enough to replace Ranald's Coin ("+20 to wherever it is most needed, twice")
  • AP Hell mitigation
And that's on top of whatever actually pushes us into considering it, as opposed to riding our current life path's inertia.
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I mean, the first part could be done in other ways, like Tzeentch teaching us a souped-up version of Algard's pocket-dimension stuff, to keep access to our books without needing physical access to a library.
Either by letting us store the reference-material extradimensionally, or by allowing us to reach into our library at will and pull out books.
 
T_of_A said:
Whichever Chaos God we hypothetically decide to serve has to offer us three things to be even slightly tempting :
  • A mechanical bonus that can replace the "+5 or +7 to basically every single roll" that BOOKBOON gives us these days
  • A main boon that's powerful enough to replace Ranald's Coin ("+20 to wherever it is most needed, twice")
  • AP Hell mitigation
And that's on top of whatever actually pushes us into considering it, as opposed to riding our current life path's inertia.
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Well Tzeentch is partially there, what with +20 to casting spells whenever we are near a Tzeentchian (which would be always, if we be Tzeentching). It might have some rad libraries we could check out?
There is no AP Hell mitigation. Not for anything or anyone.
 
Glau said:
I'm going to take that as an acknowledgement of his being there and being able then?
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Sure, in the sense of the old man in the village staring out the window the whole day is an elite spymaster in comparision of how much he knows about his targets. Of course he has some knowledge of what Mathilde does, and interest in that. The same applies to everyone she talks to. It's just not enough that calling it supervision (not quite the word, but whatever) is a good description.
 
Talon TigerDino said:
Well Tzeentch is partially there, what with +20 to casting spells whenever we are near a Tzeentchian (which would be always, if we be Tzeentching). It might have some rad libraries we could check out?
There is no AP Hell mitigation. Not for anything or anyone.
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I do not thing the first part is true, the bonus is relating to Tzeenchian sorcery, the lore of Tzeench, we would not always be casting that since there are only so many problems that can be solved with multi-colored fire and mutation. A Chaos!Mathilde would still be using mostly Ulgu I imagine.
 
DragonParadox said:
I do not thing the first part is true, the bonus is relating to Tzeenchian sorcery, the lore of Tzeench, we would not always be casting that since there are only so many problems that can be solved with multi-colored fire and mutation. A Chaos!Mathilde would still be using mostly Ulgu I imagine.
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Nah, it's pretty broad like that:
Boney said:
Fated: +20 to spellcasting in the presence of Tzeentchian sorcery, ??? when spellcasting in the presence of Tzeentchian sorcery.
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I assume as long as Tzeentchian sorcery is happening, so another caster or an enchantment or suchlike, the bonus would apply, since it very specifically doesn't say anything about giving a bonus to Mathilde casting it. And that's just the bonus from Tzeentch trying to guide us to worship him.
 
Execute/Dumbo said:
Nah, it's pretty broad like that:

I assume as long as Tzeentchian sorcery is happening, so another caster or an enchantment or suchlike, the bonus would apply, since it very specifically doesn't say anything about giving a bonus to Mathilde casting it. And that's just the bonus from Tzeentch trying to guide us to worship him.
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Yeah, but Tzeenchian sorcery is not the same thing as 'Sorcery cast by someone who worships Tzeench' be it Mathy or someone else, it specifically means his lore, otherwise we would be able to ping his cultists every time they cast innocuous spells near us and as much as Tzeench likes to screw over his worshipers I do not think he would quite do that.
 
DragonParadox said:
Yeah, but Tzeenchian sorcery is not the same thing as 'Sorcery cast by someone who worships Tzeench' be it Mathy or someone else, it specifically means his lore, otherwise we would be able to ping his cultists every time they cast innocuous spells near us and as much as Tzeench likes to screw over his worshipers I do not think he would quite do that.
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I think you're talking past each other. They said that so long as there is any kind of Tzeenchian sorcery happening, whether by Mathilde or someone else, Mathilde gets her +20. You prior posts sounds like you want to say that Mathilde only gets the bonus if she's casting the sorcery herself, and that's not correct.
 
I imagine there are spells that last a few minutes that'd be enough to count as "Tzeenchian Sorcery Happening". Like say, Flames of Fate?
EDIT: And if not, then just... invent an easy long duration spell, and bada boom, +20 for spellcasting during an encounter basically.
 
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