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No evidence of Boris and Mathilde. He wants Evidence of Lahmians.

And getting caught doing a creepy ritual on the Tsar, dramatically knifing him instead, and then running away, all while disguised as a Lahmian, is, uh, it's pretty good, you know? Given that the running away is more along the lines of "Teleporting away to perfect safety, and leaving an illusion of us turning into a bat and flying away", or something.

Remember to shout "Bleh!" before fleeing into the night.
 
So because of plan variation I'm kinda lost on who's in the lead and what the major arguments are exactly? Are the leads basically doing a magic Assassins Creed or if we wanna do some "live practice on our totally not Dhar inspired experiments"
 
So because of plan variation I'm kinda lost on who's in the lead and what the major arguments are exactly? Are the leads basically doing a magic Assassins Creed or if we wanna do some "live practice on our totally not Dhar inspired experiments"
There's a button called "New tally" on the bottom left of the input box. It shows an accounting of all the valid votes everyone has cast.

Nighttime Heart Attack is winning right now; we're going to give him internal wounds so that his death looks like natural causes until the autopsy, and then looks very supernatural afterwards, and the magical traces will be able to curdle into Dhar with our supervision to give the appearance of black magic, in case of magical investigation.
 
Everyone worries about where one could find a Mathilde-sized shadow to hide in, but there's a perfectly big one right under the Tzar's bed.
Assuming it's the kind of bed you can actually fit under. I've seen some that have all the space beneath blocked off by drawers or something. And then there's just the ones with an incredibly low clearance that makes even lying down uncomfortably tight.
 
[X] Plan: Nighttime Heart Attack
-[X] Sneak into the Tzar's room, use mockery of death on him then implant him with a Matrix loaded with Shadow Dagger loaded. Set the matrix off immediately, so he dies in bed.
 
You know it just occurred to me that if we do not want things coming out of the Tsar's chest we could just Matrix up Move, just move his heart around in his chest, there is no way anyone is living though that, but it is probably not flying out. Ah well... too late to change it again though.
 
I don't think it will do that? There's no Dhar to kickstart that process, so it would remain Ulgu until it dissipates. That was considered one of the weaknesses of the method.
I believe they're talking about this, which has come up a few times in thread discussion on the topic:
Is there a way to make the matrix look Dhar-tainted without ourselves turning to it?
Only if she has access to the corpse after the Matrix has triggered.
I now realize I didn't specify to do this, even if it was one of the reasons I made my variant in the first place. Sorry, at the time I was more focused on honing into the difference with the original, and I didn't think it had much of a chance anyway so I didn't refine it very much. Anyone deciding on their vote should do so with the knowledge that there's no guarantee this happens.
 
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I believe they're talking about this, which has come up a few times in thread discussion on the topic:


I now realize I didn't specify to do this, even if it was one of the reasons I made my variant in the first place. Sorry, at the time I was more focused on honing into the difference with the original, and I didn't think it had much of a chance anyway so I didn't refine it very much. Anyone deciding on their vote should do so with the knowledge that there's no guarantee this happens.
I guess we can hope that Boney takes it into account, since we will be triggering it right away, and he does read the thread. And the intention of the vote does matter. On the other hand, including stuff that wasn't in the vote is also a slippery thing.
 
I guess we can hope that Boney takes it into account, since we will be triggering it right away, and he does read the thread. And the intention of the vote does matter. On the other hand, including stuff that wasn't in the vote is also a slippery thing.
Overcomplicating the plan with too many details is a pain for everyone involved. Just trust Boney will have Mathilde show her standard level of competence at carrying out whatever overall strategy we vote for.
 
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Of all the feats Mathilde casually and frequently accomplishes in the name of being sneaky, if they were actually put to the vote I don't think most would've won. The thread just can't perfectly mimic her level of knowledge, maturity and comfort in her surroundings. But at the same time, decisions on what direction to go in, what goals to aim for, etc. need to be made by the thread, because this is a quest.

Thus, plans need to tread the needle between insufficient detail and micromanagement. There has to be clear understanding of what it is, exactly, Mathilde is doing, without overburdening the plan with small details that will almost certainly be worse than what she can come up with (or what Boney can come up with, having a far better understanding of how the quest world functions).

I think the current plans are fine on that front?
 
Insufficient evidence of Lahmian involvement.
They were involved, but are far too professional to leave any evidence of it.
Would be easier to just manufacture some involvement. Hell, you could say Mathilde was tracing the conspiracy, which is how she arrived her just too late to save Vladimir. That's perfectly believable. She's done all the individual parts before (tracking/destroying Lahmian conspiracies, preventing assassination, tracking a problem to Kislev and helping)
 
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