NavySeel
"I don't know what I'm doing."
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Teclis, recognising they want to put her in charge of everything, and knowing that kind of role is a living hell, advises her to run.
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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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There's a throwaway line in LUMW about how the charge of the Chaos hordes tore up the coast of Norsca, and the drowning of the field by Manann is said to be the origin of the Sea of Chaos which is between Norsca and the Northern Wastes.
MF says more than 'Great Pyramid' - it says the defenders were driven up the pyramid to the "Diamond Throne". That seems like a clear description of Asuryan's Great Pyramid, the one from which He rules the heavens. This is also what OS appears to say but there it says "Flaming Phoenix, whom all had thought dead, returned from atop His Gleaming Pyramid", and I think it's possible to read that as Asuryan joining the battle and bringing the pyramid with Him, rather than the pyramid being the original location of the battle.
While the Shrine of Asuryan is definitely built in imitation of Asuryan's pyramid I don't think the Asur claim that it is the pyramid of Asuryan, as that pyramid is supposed to be in the Heavens with Asuryan Himself. Of course it could still be that the Shrine of Asuryan was built upon the place where the Gods gathered to fight Chaos or whatever, perhaps the place where the Qt Deific Interfaces were connected to or something like that. On the other hand our best guess for Qt is Quintex, which isn't in Ulthuan.
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- North Wales
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- He/Him/His
It was brought up ages and ages ago. Let me see if I can find the quotation; I remember it because "available paths to immortality that aren't Vampirism" was an interesting topic.
I suppose technically that answer allows for a failed gilding to lead to lobotomisation and spending the rest of your days in Frederheim, too. So 0% success rate, rather than the "0% survival rate" that I'd said.
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- Outside the Box
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- She/Her
I think there's several actual studies and such arguing that it's really bad for the amoral individual, too. *side-eyes
You should've quoted your full post. I think it's a really good theory for the time, positing that one of the deities could have had their identity stolen during the war against chaos. With what we've learned since, it's increasingly likely that this kind of thing happened multiple times during the Warhammer world's multi-choice past. Even if there never was exactly the situation where Ranald pretended to be Asuryan.
Well, while we're back on the topic of gods and creation myths. Didn't somebody refer to Norsca as a shattered prison at one point? I wanna say Borek? It doesn't seem to match any of the city locations from the sidestory, so I'm kinda wondering what that leaves for options.
... are trolls native to Mallus? Or did old ones make them? Norsca *is* pretty close to troll country if some old one was fucking around doing a pet project up in norsca.
Edit: Ah, found it.
... are trolls native to Mallus? Or did old ones make them? Norsca *is* pretty close to troll country if some old one was fucking around doing a pet project up in norsca.
Edit: Ah, found it.
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NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
It... honestly depends. A lot of the time it works out badly, but unfortunately it can work out very well too- there's a reason corporations tend to be led by people who focus on profit over things like 'customer satisfaction' and 'ethics', for example. No idea what the ratio is between success and failure though.
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- Somewhere between the stars
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- She/Her
Could the Pyramid be the repurposed research ship of QT? It's noted that all the researches except the Cathayan ones had converted theirs. Assuming the twin-tailed comet of Sotek is the Lustrian one, and this is old one tech, having a ship with esoteric effects wouldn't be too far out field there.
I did consider making a serious post quoting a few of my theories, but I decided against it for a few reasons:
1) I'm at work, it's a Saturday, and I'm in retail. I super don't have the bandwidth right now to make effort posts, or to respond to people who would inevitably be pointing out the various things that have changed since I originally posted those theories.
2) I would have gotten far fewer funny reacts, and funny reacts are how I judge my Inherent Worth As A Human Being.
So yeah, I went with the silly joke instead.
dinomannitro6
all your gender is belong to us
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- The Land Where The Sunflowers Bloom
Norsca a shattered prison... Maybe the flooding in LUaMW really did happen and the prison was in the flooded parts?
The Sea of Claws has always looked weird to me. I get that it's the fantasy version of the Baltic Sea, but it looks like someone just erased all the land between Norsca and Nordland.
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
If we're talking about important metaphysical prisons to the north of the empire, then there's surely also a connection to be drawn to the Girl In Glass/Arianka situation? Maybe there was a whole prison complex, and "Arianka" or the "Crystal Coffin" are one of the few portions of the prison that didn't get destroyed?
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
The Seal of Claws is the most dangerous of Norscan predators.
Ranald damnit.
Could be. One of the effects I would definitely expect Old One ships to have is the power to float, so maybe the repurposed ship was partly used to keep Ulthuan afloat? The design of the Shrine of Asuryan is noted to have a non-elven design reminiscent of the Slann's temple cities, so I think it's quite possible that it's Old One tech. There's also a myth of Asuryan creating Ulthuan from the body of Draugnir, and we know that Draugnir worked in Qt, that could also be related somehow.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
I think there has been something mentioned about Ithilmar being only found there as something to do with an Old One ship?
Which would suggest Talabheim as a place of interest…
I kinda wonder if the focus on the 'wooded plateau' has focused us too much on Karak Norn. It's not impossible that it was a place that was a wooded plateau but is no longer.
Talabheim would have looked different before it was cratered in…
Not that I recall. I think the only connection they have is that they're both silver.
I'm pretty sure that Talabheim had Ithilmar simply because it had elves back when it was Athel Maraya, and the elves had Ithilmar.
It's not just that Karak Norn is a wooded plateau and so is Cd, it's also the fact that Karak Norn is a wooded plateau right next to Athel Loren and Radixashen is in canon a Forest Dragon in Athel Loren. Still not enough to make it a definitive match, but quite suggestive imo.
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- Chicago
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- She/They
I thought that a truncated pyramid and a mountain with it's top flattened had the same profile? Ulric may have been making a discount pyramid to keep the flame on.
The other thing I was thinking is that if the field was flooded, the original crystal throne might still be somewhere underneath the sea of claws?
Huh. You know, I always thought it was weird that the official story was that the Ithilmar was dragon scales rather than elven weapons and armour recovered from an ancient battlefield.
Surely even a peasant could recognise a sword or a shield or something.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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- Earth
Not really. Helicopters use the exact same principles as fixed wing aircraft to fly. Weirder is the fact that the Dwarfs use gyrocopters, which mean the rotors on top of them aren't powered by an engine.
It was a theory people discussed, but no word as to it being canon (and I personally find it unlikely).
Kind of, maybe? But Asuryan's pyramid is actually not flat topped, it's a proper pyramid with a pointy tip.
Cadaeth mentions a "Frozen Throne of Ulric", which I believe is quest original. The closest thing someone suggested when I asked if it had a canonical source was the Order of the Winter Throne, but their wiki page does mention a mysterious "Throne of the Snow King" which is hidden somewhere in Norsca, and Norsca is the closest region to the supposed flooded battlefield.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
He's not really a god of fire, though, just that one flame in particular. And it's not a flame that warns you up either.
An Ulrican once got picked up by the head and defenestrated by a Priest of Dazh in Pragg for suggesting that Kislevites had no need for Dazh's flame because faith in Ulric would allow them to withstand the cold.
QuietlyObserving
The Railgun That Walks Like a Bear
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- Here.
*Hands her a yard-high stack of paper from a liminal realm*
"Here, this is about 3% of my backlog. Since it's from me, they can't argue against you doing those instead. It should keep you busy and away from the seat for at least 50 years. Now flee, you fool!"
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
It totally does and could, to be fair. But, somehow, I think that relying on the god of self-sufficiency like that wouldn't work out anyhow.
The nice thing about fire and the sun is that they don't require you to pray too much to get started or anything. This lets you share them with, e.g, normal people.
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- A Pit Of My Own Making
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- He/Him
...isn't Throgg the King of Trolls supposed to sit on some kind of throne?
Throgg is Aauyan's Heir confirmed