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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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BurnNote said:
I mean, they were illegal magic users before that too.
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Sure. The point is that they didn't have to worry about Article 13 before, which means that the majority of people they were doing it together with were now lawfully required to act against them.
Boney said:
13. All Magisters are required to seek out magic users as may exist within the bounds of Sigmar's Holy Empire to ascertain their suitability to join one of the Orders of Magic, or else report them to the Holy Orders of the Templars of Sigmar, or else destroy them if they prove to be of immediate and grave menace to Sigmar's People.
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ELFDAD
ELFDAD NOTICED US
SQUEEEEEE

Ahem. Now that I got the fangirling out of the way... My first assumption is that Teclis's outside time is valuable, perhaps valuable enough for there to be a schedule of sorts on which things he's going to handle personally. Maybe one of the things that's going to make a lot of elves upset is him throwing it off to go visit and headpat his clever children over there in the Empire.

...Okay, that's probably wishful thinking, but elfdad :')
 
On the Pilgrimage of Fingers, if Mathilde wanted to formalize that, wouldn't that involve tattooing her fingers? Would that be something Mathilde could do, and is it something she would want to do? (And buy a pair of [fingerless?] gloves, I suppose.)
 
I suspect that Teclis is probably a first-rate teacher alongside his magical skills, given some of the stuff the first generation of mages came up with and how much he's still kind of wanted back.
 
Mopman43 said:
He almost got killed by Gotrek for bringing up the Chaos Dwarfs.
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Chronic said:
He's apparently a bit of a dick to Gotrek and Felix in the novel they meet him, but I haven't read it myself so take it with a grain of salt.
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I'd say that one was at least as much on Gotrek as it was on Teclis, considering Gotrek told him to his face that all elves are Druchii, at which point Teclis pointed out that by the same logic all dwarfs are Chaos Dwarfs.
 
Derpmind said:
On the Pilgrimage of Fingers, if Mathilde wanted to formalize that, wouldn't that involve tattooing her fingers? Would that be something Mathilde could do, and is it something she would want to do? (And buy a pair of [fingerless?] gloves, I suppose.)
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Heidi can do the tattooing for us, it's quite simple. And a thief that can't hide his pilgrimage tattoos probably doesn't deserve them.

As for whether Mathilde wants it... That's our job to decide.
 
Blackout said:
I'd say that one was at least as much on Gotrek as it was on Teclis, considering Gotrek told him to his face that all elves are Druchii, at which point Teclis pointed out that by the same logic all dwarfs are Chaos Dwarfs.
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I'm not saying he didn't necessarily have a point in bringing it up in the argument, just pointing out that Gotrek is supposed to be the one with a deathwish.

Isn't the mark of a good diplomat being able to defuse a situation, rather than adding more fuel?
 
I think Teclis gets along well with human wizards because they're all like "You're so amazing Teclis-sama!". They don't give a shit that he's a physical wreck, literally cursed, or that his brother is super handsome and fucking the Everqueen. They just think he's super neat. Getting respect and appreciation for his talents without the constant undercurrent of "everything else about you sucks tho" or comparisions to his brother probably means he treats them way nicer. Also, they're more willing to forgive the occaisons where he is a dick.
Mopman43 said:
I'm not saying he didn't necessarily have a point in bringing it up in the argument, just pointing out that Gotrek is supposed to be the one with a deathwish.

Isn't the mark of a good diplomat being able to defuse a situation, rather than adding more fuel?
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He's not a diplomat. He's there to solve a magic problem, and this asshole dwarf shows up.
 
BurnNote said:
I think Teclis gets along well with human wizards because they're all like "You're so amazing Teclis-sama!". They don't give a shit that he's a physical wreck, literally cursed, or that his brother is super handsome and fucking the Everqueen. They just think he's super neat. Getting respect and appreciation for his talents without the constant undercurrent of "everything else about you sucks tho" or comparisions to his brother probably means he treats them way nicer. Also, they're more willing to forgive the occaisons where he is a dick.
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Judging by the general thread attitude, Mathilde is probably going to fit right in with this :V
 
What if Mathilde used the Protector face of the coin while sabotaging Skaven working against Chaos dwarves... Could this break the dwarves full circle so the hold Hashut has on them begin to wither!

It's not treason if you manipulate your enemies towards other goals right...
 
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BurnNote said:
I think Teclis gets along well with human wizards because they're all like "You're so amazing Teclis-sama!". They don't give a shit that he's a physical wreck, literally cursed, or that his brother is super handsome and fucking the Everqueen. They just think he's super neat. Getting respect and appreciation for his talents without the constant undercurrent of "everything else about you sucks tho" or comparisions to his brother probably means he treats them way nicer. Also, they're more willing to forgive the occaisons where he is a dick.
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As dwarfs are to wizards, wizards are to teclis. That's like almost exactly what Mathilde said about why she likes dwarves, just a different angst at the center of it
 
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Somic said:
Judging by the general thread attitude, Mathilde is probably going to fit right in with this :V
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He is amazing. He is, factually, a frigging amazing mage. And he seems more like Sarvoi in attitude, not as arrogant as the typical elf, so he's actually comparatively pleasant.

I think Teclis actually has a fairly average diplomacy. It's just that he's got a bunch of traits like "bitter" and "inferiority complex" and such that normally kick it to the curb. But with humans those don't apply, and so he's actually decent. This baffles elves. And Teclis likes to lean into it. The human build a godawful embassy? Let's use magic so it can't be torn down or modified. He gets to be an asshole to elves and show his appreciation for the humans.

Now I imagine Teclis as the anti-social nerd who fed and trained a bunch of wild racoons, and really enjoys the shenanigans they get up to. He sics them on people, and he's absolutly thrilled he now gets to tell people they have jacked into the powergrid.
 
Also I just noticed:
Boney said:
For now, he must serve Ulthuan and the world from his gilded cage.
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Teclis's attitude here is heartening. Not everyone makes serving the world one of their jobs so casually - he's not saying it, he's thinking it to himself in passing, which means that this is what he actually believes in doing.

Elfdad is amazing.
 
Now are the high elves going to be more upset that humans are expanding the next work or more upset that they did not do it. Because sending more magic to Ulthuan is a good thing but humans doing it would be wrong because humans.
 
Here's the earliest mention of Teclis in quest:

Boney said:
Asarnil himself is less taken with the crowds, and broods in his massive tent alone each evening. He's occupied with buffing his armour with a cloth, but turns as you enter with a scowl and his mouth open to deliver a cutting rebuke, but upon seeing you he stops, surprised. "That manner of dress - why, you're one of Teclis' little ones!"

You're rather taken aback at that. "I- well, I am part of the Colleges of Magic, yes-"

"I'm so glad that you're still doing well. Which of them are you? Wait, don't tell me, you must be one of the Grey ones, right? Ulgu?"

"Yes, I am of the Grey Order."

"So few believed it would work, but Teclis proved them all wrong. And didn't Finubar hate that! He didn't even have the bravery to forbid one of those two brothers from doing what they pleased, but he predicted such ruin, and yet here you are." You're completely taken aback by this, but that last bit at least partially explains it - the tale of Asarnil's banishment from Ulthuan is well-known, and so something that tweaks the Phoenix King's nose would definitely please him. But you're starting to get the annoyed feeling that you're being treated like a child that has learned a particularly clever trick. "He taught you something of our language as well, didn't he? Is that still being passed down? Of course, not the proper thing, but a few words to use like we would use Anoqeyån."

"Ulgunar kirior onai Tar-Eltharin, caladai-eldoir-kurn," you retort, and he stares at you, quite surprised.

"I haven't heard-" he breaks off, and almost haltingly continues in Eltharin. "I have not heard the tongue of the True Elves in close to two centuries."

"If it would please you, I would be happy to converse with you in it," you respond.

"Of course!" he stops, and looks frustrated with himself. "Of course. I would like that very much."
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It's Asarnil praising Teclis for annoying Finubar with the whole colleges of magic thing.

It's interesting that Asarnil respects Teclis because of it.

That said, I really, really hope we're never in the same room as the two of them.
 
Somic said:
Also I just noticed:

Teclis's attitude here is heartening. Not everyone makes serving the world one of their jobs so casually - he's not saying it, he's thinking it to himself in passing, which means that this is what he actually believes in doing.

Elfdad is amazing.
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It's one of the reasons he gets along well with humans.

It's easy to forgive some slights from an arrogant snide ancient ultra-mega-giga wizard that's at least partly on your side.

All those other arrogant snide ancient wizards aren't at all on their side.
 
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