- Location
- Oklahoma
Solid rolls all throughout the Apparition process, then.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
That's because we kinda caused them to attack in the first place.
The Iron Orcs are actively raiding Carcasonne, I'm confident we can get Protector to proc for at least the border villages.
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
If you think about it, Apparition Binding is sort of like making a sentient magic item. Attached to your soul.
It's probably the same boost we got in the last update, not from the library.
Yeah but when do they raid? It might be the next raid isn't for months, and Mathilde wouldn't be physical stopping it either, she'd just be providing information that may eventually lead to raids being stopped. This is several steps removed, seems to fall into the "If you have to explain" range to me.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
Oh, I meant for any that we kill ourselves.
Just for providing info it probably wouldn't proc?
Right, if Mathilde dramatically stops a raiding party it would proc, but that's not something I think is a likely result from the action. It's more about searching about in the mountains far away from most human habitation to my mind.
- Location
- Canada
Our scouting missions often finish with things on fire and quite a lot of enemies bisected, usually without us even trying. I prefer to hedge our bets and expect it to happen, at this point. Mathilde, and the thread, are rarely willing to stand by and let something happen if it's within our power to fix.
Like, if the Iron Orcs had bunch of slaves they were planning to work to death and then eat (presumably in that order), would we carefully scout them out and then tell Bretonnia so they could deal with it in the coming months/years, or would we improvise an immediate rescue/jailbreak? Especially after the guilt from Uzkulak.
That's the sort of thing Ranald's Protector face is all about.
- Location
- Earth
For providing info it'd probably have to be immediately relevant and actionable, something like Saint Grey warning Journeywizards about the Colleges being disbanded.
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
I reflexively cat-reacted this but also damn, with the way we and Johann have been rolling on this we aren't really leaving Ranald anything to do, are we?
I guess maybe the Gambler will kick in on the stretch goal of "develop the basic summoning spell that deploys the Apparition with instructions", but if we crush that roll too without our oldest friend's help I will laugh and laugh.
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
- Location
- The Destination of Fate
- Pronouns
- She/Her
The initial roll to capture it included a halved Enchantment bonus too.
This could just be a continuation of it. A really good one, at that. As for why it doesn't include Apparition books, well, books can only help in things that they have written about, and the Apparition-binding process that Gehenna's Hounds are based on is a total secret that's not written down in them.
But the Apparition books did help us, meta-wise: they let us ask more questions about Apparitions in general. That, I think, was more valuable than a flat +5.
...On a similar note, I wonder where the Gambler is going to apply for this action, if it is going to apply at all. Maybe things have gone smooth enough that Mathilde might go on to the 'actually make the spell to summon and guide it' phase? Or maybe it'll change how our specific Rider 'feels' about being bound and being given a new shape? Or maybe we'll have the luck to find yet another Rider? Who knows.
- Location
- Australia
It was a good action to put it on too, given the multiple rolls and the possibility for things to go wrong.
Oh I see the disjunction here. That first once wasn't an Enchantment bonus, it was an Enchanter bonus. That is, Mathilde's personal Enchanter trait, not the library bonus. That's probably what this new roll is using.
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- Location
- Oklahoma
Ranald might have weighed in on a 'is there a Rider available to catch' roll.
- Location
- Washington
I mean, the "playing druchii against each other" is literally already on offer in the form of "snitch on raiders from another of the major cities because druchii don't actually get along" and again some of the sorts of payment that are available we ALREADY know don't really compromise mathilde's morals. Yeah when the actual negotations go down it's possible things will go worse than expected but we are not at a point where completely unobjectionable* really is not "very optimistic" at this point.
*(apart from if you object to working with druchii categorically, which i know some people do but is a different discussion)
In that scenario I think the proc would be to the rescued slaves, but frankly the slaves would presumably be pretty grateful regardless.
Thinking further though, it could be we find them soon enough that there's time to tag along with the Bretonnians to run them down, in which case you'd get a solid benefit out of it.
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
- Location
- The Destination of Fate
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Or perhaps on the 'how fast can you find one' roll, given that we asked and the Lights were like "there's one right there". A slight distinction from whether one is available at all.
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
Oh, good.
The completely ordinary 1d100 roll Boney put in the thread so that the results would be known and clear to absolutely everyone didn't land on a one.
The completely ordinary 1d100 roll Boney put in the thread so that the results would be known and clear to absolutely everyone didn't land on a one.
I mean last time he weighed in in the availability for testing to get it accepted. Maybe something like that will happen here too?
- Location
- Outside the Box
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Theoretically, by doing the binding at the Grey College, Mathilde would have access to the College's library and facilities. But also, binding an Apparition is still an unknown and fraught process, so it makes sense that neither of those bonuses apply here.
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
- Location
- The Destination of Fate
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Normally the Gambler applies "where it is needed most", which means that it's possible that like last turn could happen, where we don't really need it and it doesn't apply directly to our rolls... but it's also possible this is a tiered success sort of thing and getting a result above 123 would be meaningfully helpful.
That happened when learning Melkoth's Miasma, where we learned rolled a 91, had the +5 from Ulgu books, had the Room of Dawn and Dusk giving us a +20, and Melkoth himself was tutoring us, but the Coin still applied. It's quite possible that normally it takes more than a single action to learn it or other more difficult Battle Magics.
Given that this is a dangerous endeavor involving binding something to our soul, I wouldn't be surprised if this was something similar.
I think I recall a statement about how even if we don't get a bonus like we do from our Tower, the DC for learning spells is lower in the Grey College so technically it's about even. I imagine something similar could apply here.
- Location
- Australia
Probably not getting a mastery out of it, nah. All the other spells we used a whole bunch before we got a mastery, and can't get masteries off spells you invent period.
- Location
- Before the Ninth Gate
We can't get a mastery out of it, in fact, because we are inventing the spell. Now maybe our invention could succeed early or better than expected or be a lower tier mastery, or it could just be a DC 100 thing.
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- Location
- Aotearoa
I think it's half our Trait bonus?