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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[X] [SEVIROSCOPE] Visual
[X] [RIDER] Mounted Wraiths.
[X] [RIDER] Knight
-[X] Demigryph Knight
[x] [RIDER] The Dämmerlichtreiter
 
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Zaratustra said:
I think you are looking at this the wrong way, this is a spell, is not something enemies see on the field and prepare for, is something we trow at then our of nowhere. Trying to base tactical value in cofusing the enemy after it had a chance to rampage fells contrived.
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As far as I can tell the summon lasts long enough that a range of possibilities including enemies sending forces after it after it engages its chosen foe, or even actively pursuing it(if we summoned a Knight or Grey Wizard riding hard for a location most enemies would intercept on general principles)
 
BeepSmile said:
I updated my vote to fix a typo, and that may have been a terrible mistake, but I've already started trying to get people to change theirs to match, and the only thing worse than having started is stopping.

beepsmile: cries when faced with the consequences of his choices
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Don't sweat it too much. While it makes things easier if there's no typos or alternate wordings of the same general idea, it's not difficult to merge them back together in the tally.
 
[X] [SEVIROSCOPE] Visual

[X] [RIDER] Knight
-[X] Knights of Judgement
[X] [RIDER] Knight
-[X] Conventional Empire (Mathilde's Heraldry)
[X] [RIDER] The Dämmerlichtreiter

I like all of these for different reasons and with different utility.
 
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[X] [SEVIROSCOPE] Visual

[X] [RIDER] Other (Ulgu Dragon)

[X] [RIDER] Spider

[X] [RIDER] A man who could look like a depiction of Ranald, though there's a lot of ambiguity about it due to the smoke drifitng around him partially obscuring his face at all times, in a knight costume, wielding swords, riding a horse-sized housecat.

[X] [RIDER] Great Cat Knight
 
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[X] [SEVIROSCOPE] Visual
[X] [RIDER] The Dämmerlichtreiter
[X] [RIDER] Mounted Wraiths

I kind of now want to drop plans for both serviscopes, the orbs of sorcery, book on Vitae, and apparation binding at the same time while Mathilde then runs off to Ulthua.
 
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Tasoli said:
but also might cause blow back as knight on her heraldy goes to miscast rampages in hands of other wizards.
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That is a non-concern. How many people do even know what Mathilde's heraldry looks like? We're not exactly riding with it on our robes or our banner. Battle magic is not used often, miscasts with battle magic happen even less often and then people not in the know who survive it will need to remember specific heraldry, and then the news of it will need to make way to someone who knows of Mathilde's heraldry but not of her for it to cause trouble. That is just not going to happen.
 
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Boney said:
He didn't. Horses are blunt instruments, when they charge it's a broad chest and trampling hooves. Cats are knives, when they charge it's paws outstretched and mouth open. I say this as someone with a fair bit of experience with both.
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Doesn't that have more to do with instincts? That wouldn't apply to a being that's naturally an apparition imitating a horse rider. Or maybe it would, given that a creature of the Aethyr might care more about the associations its victims make than about a physical form it used to adopt. I honestly have no idea.

Also Demigryphs seem to have a broad chested build instead of one that would be more expected from a pouncing predatory mammal. At least in the official art, models and Total War. If your quest canon Demigryphs are more sensibly proportioned then I'll shut up about it.


Anyway, I'll still stick to my write-in for now.

[X] [RIDER] Mist-shrouded Grey Wizard on a Shadow-Demigryph

Even if Demigryphs just are worse at running solo into a bunch of people, they can't be that much worse to make up for what they bring to the table otherwise. If nothing else, they cost more points per model in all Warhammer games :p.

[X] [SEVIROSCOPE] Visual
 
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@Boney would it be possible to add a cross tattoo in one of the fingers of the Red Rider?

And more important, if we codified the spell could we codify it in a way that the people who learn it don't realize about said cross while learning it?
 
BeepSmile said:
Does 'Great Cat' mean a regular lion or tiger or panther sized up to the size of a horse, or a typical house/alley cat sized up to the size of a horse?
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The latter is my preference, but all of the above would get my enthusiastic approval.

Alratan said:
People know illusions exist. They don't know solid clones do. A Mathilde Rider can do a good impression of Mathilde. An Illusion can't, not being solid
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If all you are doing is creating a target for others to chase while hiding under invisibility, solidity isn't real critical.

Plus, the first time someone hits the rider and doesn't get the rune of spite backlash, they'll know it's not her. (Assuming that Mathilde is using an escape gambit because she is injured, the rune of spite would be obvious to all involved in the fight.)
 
Glau said:
If all you are doing is creating a target for others to chase while hiding under invisibility, solidity isn't real critical.

Plus, the first time someone hits the rider and doesn't get the rune of spite backlash, they'll know it's not her. (Assuming that Mathilde is using an escape gambit because she is injured, the rune of spite would be obvious to all involved in the fight.)
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It is when an arrow which the caster didn't see first goes through her, or 'she' rides through an obstacle that wasn't visible from their vantage point, or she doesn't leave tracks in the mud or beaten aside undergrowth.

As people aren't omniscient, they'll have no idea about the Rune of Spite, as I think there are only two living people who should know that much detail about how Mathilde's runic items work and what limitations and features they may have. Her and Kragg the Grimm. I strongly doubt he's been gossiping about them.

Rafin said:
Even if Demigryphs just are worse at running solo into a bunch of people, they can't be that much worse to make up for what they bring to the table otherwise. If nothing else, they cost more points per model in all Warhammer games :p.
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I don't believe that a demigryph is any better overall than a horse here. They're just specialised in fighting different things.
 
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[X] [SEVIROSCOPE] Visual

[X] [RIDER] Mist-shrouded Grey Wizard on a Shadowsteed

[X] [RIDER] Mathilde on a Shadowsteed
-[X] Nondescript face, mist-shrouded

These options are really quite similar, but I do think that the mist-shrouding is generally useful - it makes it less explicitly "Mathilde" to reduce blowback and the cringe factor a bit (plausible deniability is important when making dumb self-aggrandisment!), and we usually will have a bunch of mist surrounding us when we're in battle anyway, so if anything it makes it a *better* doppelganger. It doesn't have the "lack of fear" issue that our shadow tendrils have, either.

E: Courtesy of @Godwinson :

[X] [RIDER] The Dämmerlichtreiter
 
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