Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Imperial books on Druchii are available, Dwarven books aren't.
Ulthuan is relevant for the elfcation, which I'm still hoping to do pretty soon (T44). And I know some folks are hoping to negotiate with Ulthuan for the leyline keyphrases once we have a working Waystone prototype, which might be pretty soon.
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Turn 44 is three turns away, so we'll be doing mapping, paper/book-writing, and lornalim study before that. I get why we'd want Ulthuan and Druchii books eventually, but not why we want them this turn.
This is in the section of accumulated artifacts so I guess we can study it with a WEB-MAT action.
It's the flash is caused because of the Rune of the Unknown which most likely keeps our sword into a liminal realm.
So it may be convenient to do it next turn if we plan to do the Liminal Realm action so as to further reduce the risks of said action in case it goes wrong or to achieve greater results in case it goes right.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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For what it's worth, it's probably just physics- water cavitation.
The instant appearance of the sword compresses water instantaneously, which causes a flash of light. Similar to a mantis shrimp to my understanding.
It's a Realm.
Holy books and reference books each generate their own flavours of vociferous debates over the merits of this or that translation. Something that is both at the same time must lead to an utter maelstrom of spilled ink.
NexusEye
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It's not the appearance of the sword compressing the water that causes it, it's the sudden absence of the sword leaving behind a void that water rushes in to fill, when it slams into the water rushing in from the other side the kinetic energy it's built up stops being kinetic and turns into other forms of energy, some of which is light.
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I *knew* it sounded familiar from somewhere! Taurox shoulder checking a giant tomb king statue to death while both their armies lay shattered around them remains one of my favorite total war moments lol.
Possibly, possibly not. A horse pulling a cart relies on a lot of fundamental physics interactions that spirits don't necessarily need to bother with. How much pulling power does a spirit horse that only needs to carry a spirit rider actually have?
by that same argument, how much those it matter does all those Fundamental physics interactions passed the laying of the concept of 'the shape of a horse and carriage' onto a spirit horse?
'It can because it is supposed to/because that's part of the role' is kind of a big part of making a concept real.
so a spirit house that can pull a carriage can be thing just because 'horse pulled carriages can be pulled by horses' is part of the concept of the spirit horse (or maybe the carriage?)
not to say that's an easy thing to do/teach/mess with. but in a lot of ways most warp things generally ignore 'Fundamental physics interactions' of their shapes because they are an idea made real.
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We'd probably need something more esoteric than a carriage, really. The shadowhorse spell is notably already pretty contrived, and something specifically made for the purposes of being transported is probably a step too far for Ulgu unless Mathilde had a very exacting mindset. Maybe a movable cloud of fog? Something that isn't pulled so much as guided behind riders, and is selectively tangible for people inside?
Could *maybe* bind a couple things together by bending your brain around shadows and making something follow someone the way their shadow does? I dunno, feels like there's *something* there, but my brain hasn't stewed in Ulgu enough to spot the proper route.
Shard
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On my part I want to see the consequences of giving stuff to the Gold College, and plot hooks is arguably of negative value to me, since I feel we have more plot hooks than AP available. Plus, I generally prefer delving deeper into a single plot hook and resolving it as completely as reasonably plausible than splitting attention over multiple, where a choice is available.
NexusEye
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If it were just Ulgu I'd agree but we're talking about using a spell based on binding Apparitions or spirits and it's been noted that Apparition based spells can circumvent certain limitations of a purely Wind based spell.
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'Chasing someone's shadow' seems like a good start, I think. Maybe let it be restricted to only be usable in daytime, then use the shadow as a negative space that 'hides' a space to sit in? Might be approaching burrito territory there, but I think you could get somewhere with a pocket space born within a rider's shadow. Would need a solid grasp of liminal spaces and pocket dimensions, though, which Mathilde doesn't really have.
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
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IIRC Boney has said that if we really want to find out what the ??? is then we should in fact try it ('it' here being 'casting in the presence of Tzeentchian sorcery') and find out. That would probably involve going and finding a Tzeentchian cult to poke, which... I think most people would rather not risk unless necessary.
But as to the actual nature of Fated, Boney implied Tzeentch is just sorta kinda letting his magic be treated more easily by Mathilde. At first we were afraid it was a mutation or something, but it's not something on Mathilde's end. Boney also implied that if, say, Mathilde were to use the Fated against a Lord of Change's army or something, Tzeentch could just as easily take it away.
I feel this deeply. Salamanders my beloveds, we'll try to come back from the grocery store with milk and cigarettes next turn.Amber College 20
I don't feel my single vote is doing much here.
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
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Now I'm imagining a world where the answer is "The pull is as much as a normal horse BUT..."
The winds of magic and the Aether kind of make reality work in the same manner as a thinking mind, right?
So it doesn't do physics like the particles of the material universe not like physics would do so, but like a physicist would do so: Calculating the entire mass and interactions with the rope, harness and cart and at each step carrying that calculation to the next step, and doing it again and again, a la brute force mathematics.
Of course, since the goal is to replicate motion, the Winds/Aetheric apparition did it at say, 20-60 times a second it would feel like movement to the human eye, while also still still following from the calculations in a way they would be performed by a human mind, yeah?
Or, given where that shows up more often: Like video game collision physics.
But I'm sure that's perfectly reasonable and there are no issues whatsoever. It's not as though introducing and implementing this sort of physics calculation has ever famously had collision that resulted in deviations from reality large enough to launch a horsecart to Morrsleib, right?
The way to investigate this is to find some Tzeentchian sorcery and do magic in the presence of it.
