Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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- It would be nice if Eikee could find not just a barge, but a barge with some kind of curious nobleman on it. 'You help me get this charcoal to Tor Lithanel and you can meet the Mysterious Elves (TM).' That would be spending zero money, which is about the best solution you can have.
- Alternatively find another merchant who is interested in passage to the forest for their own purposes and promise to play translator for them in exchange for carrying the charcoal . How many people in Middleland can speak elf after all, much less know what the politics of Laurelorn look like even broadly?
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Is starting from Middenheim mandatory? I figured the best route for charcoal might be from Salkalten via sea.Thread challenge:
You are Eike. Your Master just gave you a wagon full of charcoal just outside of Middenheim and told you to try to get it to Tor Lithanel. You have [money: yes] but are challenged to spend as little as possible on transport costs. What cunning plans might you have?
No vote on the best plan or anything like that, just brainstorm and refine ideas and any that look good to me in the morning will be transferred into Eike's head.
pucflek
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There will be riunous tolls as soon as Nordland figures out where it is going. No way.
I geniunely have no idea how to get it there without trying to use forest born as an intermediate piec
Edit, wait, slakalten is in ostland, my bad.
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Well if there is no human traffic you have to use elf traffic, hail a passing forestborn boat and see if they can be persuaded, or realistically paid to carry the stuff to the cpital.
Charcoal is fungible, if Eike has a particularly cunning plan she can sell it in Middenheim, buy some more in Ostland, and start from there.
I feel compelled to note there was no direct mention of profit merely transport costs. Thusly I suggest selling all the charcoal at price or below and going to buy some in a far better location with an easier route. Even if it means having to overpay for the charcoal since well. Money: Yes.
Though this might not be valid. Since the challenge does kind of imply it needs to be that specific wagon... oh nevermind.
Though this might not be valid. Since the challenge does kind of imply it needs to be that specific wagon... oh nevermind.
How are the dwarves delivering stone to the Eonir, could she add her wagon to their convoy?
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... Does it need to continue being Charcoal too? Can she sell the charcoal, buy a bunch of peat from the locals in the wasteland right next door and get the wasteland swamp natives to handle transport through the swamp?
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We're still a good 2-3 decades out on having readily available ogres, right?
Spitballing, a lot of those plans are probably atrociously bad. Just giving literally any idea I can think of.
- Sell the coal, buy coal in Salkalten (the city has logging camps in the Forest of Shadows iirc) and deliver it by ship to the Schaukel and from there by boat to Tor Lithanel.
- Take the Erengard Road up to Salzenmund, then take the road from Salzenmund to Tor Lithanel. Use your transport budget to bribe authorities (since obviously you didn't clear this with Nordland).
- Take the Erengard Road all the way to Stavern, then take the unmarked road on the map all the way to the Demst, then boat your way down to the Tor Lithanel road. As before, bribe authorities with your budget. A lot longer than previous plan, but it'll probably be easier to bribe people in Stavern than Salzenmund's guards.
- Take the Great North Road to the edge of the Schadensumpf and then rough it through like ~15 miles of forest to the Pass of Stone(???) and from there there's a road and a river, take whichever is cheaper.
- Take the Great North Road all the way to the Wasteland, then take the road all the way to the northern Ward Of Storm, then ship it along the coast to Wrecker's Point (????????) then take the long-ass road from there to Tor Lithanel. Use part of your budget to bribe locals in towns you pass through (because obviously you didn't clear this with Marienburg).
Ok so thousand dollar question time, are there any ships in Salkalten that would fit down the Schaukel? Because even if there is no human trafic Eike might still be able to find a merchant willing to take a gamble on the girl who both speaks elf-tongue and has literally lived with the forest elves. Hell she has to have some stuff with her that is of elven make (just tinny but well made things like say a pen knife). Show some of that off, wow the Ostlander merchants and offer to play translator for them in ecchange for getting that charcoal downriver in whatever fits.
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Since Stirland is currently Logging power (it was mentioned they would keep clearing it even once it started being basically at loss) and the seat of power of the EIC, is it sourced from there?
Do we need the same ship to fit? Drop off your goods at the mouth of the Schaukel and have an Eonir boat ship it the rest of the way. Thorek wants to get House Teleri back into the boatwright business but finds them insufficiently enthusiastic, we can give them another reason.
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As far as "get a curious noble to finance it" plans go, canonically 'elfaboos' are not a particularly unusual thing and we're currently In Middenheim, Major City. FINDING an elfaboo is about as easy as it's going to get, find some sort of curio dealer, ask him about his biggest customer for Elf Stuff, ask the Elf Stuff customer "hey you want to visit a full on Elf Capital City?"
That's a gambit Eike could try.
One of the Eonir houses is building boats to go to Praag and back, but they're not operational yet.
Subject to butterflies, but for this specific purpose, you can assume no ogres.
Run with the idea. Anything is valid if Mathilde finds it entertaining or endearing.
It can be sourced from anywhere. A constant of the Empire's history is they have too much tree and they want more not tree.
Yes.
It would be cheaper if we could get it to fit, the forestborn are not going to work for a smile and some fast talk about elf trade.
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Remember, even in the event it's genuinely the best any plan or trade route Eike comes up with will almost certainly be replaced by the RoW fog bridge we intend to build. Probably not a good idea to make huge promises hinged on a temporary trade route.
Then again, Eike might not know that...
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Sure, but stirland is the only source noted to sell extremely cheap lumber as of... idk how long ago, 10 years? In the quest proper. So it should make charcoal dirt cheap too. Downriver from Stirland is Nuln. Nuln has hungry foundries, so transport it there, sell it at profit, buy some more in Altdorf(Its gonna be kind of expensive there i suspect, but it should be less so than in Nuln and we save on transport between Nuln and Altdorf, so it could maybe pay for itself?), From there, since Marienburg currently seems defanged at least a bit and blockade is no longer imminent, we could try to sail around wasteland to that river that goes from sea of Claws and from there inland to Tor Lithanel. Or not even inland, if Elves have outpost at the mouth of the river thats where we can sell it off to elves if they don´t want icky humans on their river. No idea at all if this is profitable, it sure sounds like a lot longer trek than just by foot/wheel from Middenheim, but in my defence, Middenheim is kind of far from any River, and this would basically be entirely transported by water.
Also idk fuckall about logistics. So not sure if this is at all reasonable.
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Starting in Salzenmund and heading due west probably isn't a great idea, I suspect.
I love the elfaboo idea, but they will need to vetted to ensure they don't annoy the elves too much.
Maybe teach some basic eltharin as additional payment depending on far along Eike is there, if required.
Maybe teach some basic eltharin as additional payment depending on far along Eike is there, if required.
dpara
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Ugh, I assume the woods are real-life-jungle-but-worse traversible.
Ideas:
- ask Cython
- Gyrocopters.. though I suspect that'd burn 10 times the value of the delivery in fuel
- Elfen backback carriers (because they wouldn't need to carry supplies compared to humans) then canoes or something. Starting from Bokel to the Pass of stone on foot and then hopefully by boat. But it sounds absolutely miserable.
Ideas:
- ask Cython
- Gyrocopters.. though I suspect that'd burn 10 times the value of the delivery in fuel
- Elfen backback carriers (because they wouldn't need to carry supplies compared to humans) then canoes or something. Starting from Bokel to the Pass of stone on foot and then hopefully by boat. But it sounds absolutely miserable.
OK so, most refined version of plan 'get someone else to foot the bill':
- Sell the charcoal
- Buy more of it in Salkalten
- See if she can find a noble infatuated with elves or a merchant who wants to trade with elves
- Show off all the elf stuff Eike has on her, talk elf at them, explain she literally lives with these elves
- Promise services as a translator and/or a tour of the city
- Sail the charcoal down the Schaukel while staying on deck to talk to the Forestborn patrols that will intercept
- Tell them just what Eike is doing here, they should get a chuckle out of it