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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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mathymancer said:
But then the Obelisk of Laws would eventually have a much higher level of ambient Winds around it, and again this is something Mathilde would notice and comment on. Completely non-functioning Waystones are not Waystones, and partly functioning Waystones are a hazard, and I think both are very noticabley different from working Waystones to Windsight
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Only if nothing else is drawing off the power.

Actually this makes me think, do we know why blocked Waystones create Dhar? Like, the mass of Winds shouldn't do it, or the Winds would collapse into Dhar the second they escaped the Polar Gates. Maybe it's due to the Dhar-creation function of the Waystones?

pucflek said:
Thats the tributaries. The main Nexuses are quite another thing entirely.
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No, that's a Waystone. The Nexuses are something else, but there are far fewer of them, we don't quite know how they work, and interestingly, the only one we've seen so far actually was made of marble.
 
deathofrats0808 said:
Actually this makes me think, do we know why blocked Waystones create Dhar? Like, the mass of Winds shouldn't do it, or the Winds would collapse into Dhar the second they escaped the Polar Gates. Maybe it's due to the Dhar-creation function of the Waystones?
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My assumption is that the waystone creates dhar, sets the winds in orbit around it... and then sends it nowhere because the next node down isn't connected. The orbits collapse, the winds decay into dhar, and then the cycle repeats from there.
 
Mopman43 said:
Huh, is that bit suggesting that Ithilmar is seen as Draugnir's scales?

That would actually show commonality with the Taleutians doing similar.
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I think that it's quite probably that some legendary hero slew a dragon at the site of Talebheim. However, that legendary hero is quite possibly a dwarven champion during the War of the Beard, who slew a dragon allied to the elves in the same battle that left a lot of ithilmar to be buried there.

The origin of the Taleutians' myth could be a history their ancestors were told by the dwarves that they made their own and credited to their own deity. They're unlikely to have been exposed to elven myths, but probably would have been in contact with the dwarves.
 
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Nerdasaurus Rex said:
My assumption is that the waystone creates dhar, sets the winds in orbit around it... and then sends it nowhere because the next node down isn't connected. The orbits collapse, the winds decay into dhar, and then the cycle repeats from there.
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I kinda thought it happened downstream. The Waystone creates packets and sends them off, but they can't pass the broken Waystone and so the front packets get rear-ended, collapsing everything into Dhar.
 
deathofrats0808 said:
Actually this makes me think, do we know why blocked Waystones create Dhar? Like, the mass of Winds shouldn't do it, or the Winds would collapse into Dhar the second they escaped the Polar Gates. Maybe it's due to the Dhar-creation function of the Waystones?
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I believe they won't to start with, but eventually the reservoirs for the eight winds overflow.
And then they end up making Dhar since they overflow into each other.
 
deathofrats0808 said:
Actually this makes me think, do we know why blocked Waystones create Dhar? Like, the mass of Winds shouldn't do it, or the Winds would collapse into Dhar the second they escaped the Polar Gates. Maybe it's due to the Dhar-creation function of the Waystones?
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Nerdasaurus Rex said:
My assumption is that the waystone creates dhar, sets the winds in orbit around it... and then sends it nowhere because the next node down isn't connected. The orbits collapse, the winds decay into dhar, and then the cycle repeats from there.
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This is correct, we've seen it in action:
Boney said:
The first change you notice is that some outer layer to the leyline seems to freeze in place, and them melt into the rest of the stream as it begins to slow. Moments later the flow downstream of this Waystone halts entirely, and energies begin to intermingle and disperse into the stone. The flow coming from upstream, however, continues unabated, and the energy arriving at this Waystone are absorbed by it. But not cleanly, you note - there's something of a pile-up at the Waystone that interrupts the careful dance of Winds orbiting Dhar, and by the time the Waystone absorbs them only Dhar remains.
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deathofrats0808 said:
No, that's a Waystone. The Nexuses are something else, but there are far fewer of them, we don't quite know how they work, and interestingly, the only one we've seen so far actually was made of marble.
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The Reikland nexus is the only nexus we've looked into in detail, but we've actually seen a few other nexuses in passing and all were made of stone. There's a nexus in the Moot that's made of stone, the nexus in Gross Selon is made of stone, I think the nexus in the heart of the Jade College is made of stone (it looks like a large Belthani ogham iirc).

EDIT: Found a relevant WoB:
Boney said:
All the nexuses seem to be either scaled up versions of the Elven Waystones, or one or more stone menhirs like the one in the Jade College. The one in the Moot was the latter.
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This was before we found Athel Yenlui. So it seems the floating marble nexus is an outlier.
 
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dinomannitro6 said:
Wasn't one of the specifications that the alter only works on dwarves?
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The specs:
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-[*] Commission an altar based on (boosted) Transformation of Kadon.
--[*] Able to transform non-wizards.
--[*] Optimized to reduce destructive consequences in case of miscast.
--[*] Can only be activated by a Dwarf not currently being transformed.
--[*] Can only be activated with one of three keystones.
--[*] Transportable but heavy and unwieldy enough that even the resulting dragon can not just carry it away.
--[*] COIN: The Gambler
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Andres said:
Could one of the Ulricans' wolves drink from the dragon battle altar?
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There's no reason why they couldn't. The implied rider of 'without it going terribly wrong' makes things a bit hazier. The original spell it's based on seems to be species-agnostic since it apparently works fine for beings like Beastmen and Skinks, but there was implied to be a hack or two in the adaptation to an enchantment that may or may not go badly if you throw a new variable into the mix. So it'd be firmly in 'convince Belegar to let you try it and find out' territory.
 
I suspect side effects would include "Ulricans are mad at you".
And possibly Ulric, though that probably would have less immediate consequences.
 
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Nerdasaurus Rex said:
I still can't get over the fact that the thread's solution to "possibly antagonistic dragon in the neighbourhood" was "a monolith that turns people into dragons".
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Ulgu is one half showmanship, one-fourths confusion and the rest is actual stealth, so it is actually eminently characteristic as a plan made by someone immersed in the Wind of Shadow; it certainly makes for a spectacle, and the last thing an ornery dragon would expect is for one of the mortals to transform into a dragon themselves.
 
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