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Nope, because that's gold magic, we can't use it, and we don't understand it.

It wouldn't help with the spells directly, but it might help by showing how the Apparitions try to resist or escape so she can build in counter-counter measures into her own binding spells.
I don't argue that it is not worthwile option by itself. I am aggravated that rather that arguing for its own merit you are using vague and unsupported assumptions to hijack apparation binding option and present it like it is pre-requsite option.

Same thing keeps happening to elfcation as well so I would like to ask you to vote for what you want but stop presenting your favorites as only option or best option or even related to other options. Not unless you have firm proof that it is indeed related. Quote me Boney on this and I will back off but if you can't you should back off yourself because it is dishonest argument otherwise IMHO.

It is in no way a dishonest argument to say that things can be worth doing on their own and may also be beneficial for other things.

Apparitions are a leap in the dark. We don't know what will help with them, and neither does Mathilde, so Boney won't tell us either way. We can make educated guesses about things that may help, and that's what I'm doing.

This category of magic involve binding spirits, believed to be of the material world rather than of the Aethyr like demons, to a wizard's soul.

We don't know much about the nature of these spirits.

We don't know much about using Ulgu to bind spirits.

We don't know much about the nature of a wizard's soul.

Developing spells based around three things we don't understand well does not strike me as ideal. My preference would be to learn what we can about all three before doing so, and we have actions we can take that will potentially do that for at least the last one.

We were told that if we want to know more about Apparitions we need to go study them in the wild, but that may have been before we recruited a Hag Witch and an elven magical researcher, and with some appropriate favours and befriending they may have some knowledge on those subjects.

As I see Apparition binding as the opposite of urgent, then I have no problem with the slow and steady approach. If one route to building a better foundation doesn't pay out; it doesn't matter as long as we learn or gain something else worthwhile, as I think Gazulite lore or trying to master an arcane mark would be.
 
It wouldn't help with the spells directly, but it might help by showing how the Apparitions try to resist or escape so she can build in counter-counter measures into her own binding spells.
I would give you that point, if they were resisting grey magic. Their not, their resisting gold magic. They behave completely differently gold magic might literally build a iron cage around the apparations in the wizards soul while grey magic might confuse the apparations about where it is and what it's supposed to do. Their two completely different ways of magic.

Also i will say that yes, we could do aaaaaallll the preparation and find every bit of lore for binding.

But that would take years irl and no one got the patience for that.
 
Going to through out some theories based on the lore that we were bombed with.

Maybe Norsca was a prison for the Skytitans, they were an advanced Old Race which fits with having been taught by an Old One servitor/aetheric being, and maybe they also chose to GTFO once they had a chance to, and decided to go South East to escape their old gods instead of North North and more North like the dwarves?

Or Maybe Norsca was the Halfling Prison/lab where they were made and once the city was fucked and chaos started rolling in Halflings made there way to the Old World reasoning that it was to cold to grow any good crops for pie and beer (I only half joke here) with minimal trouble (for a given value of minimum during an apocalypse) due to their being mutation resistant and the chaos gods having better targets than these beings that were even shorter than dwarves, it might explain why Halflings are so concentrated in the old world and why no one really knows where they came from, they all had better things to do at the time than write down "fled hell" which everyone knew already, plus the Halflings were a pretty late old one creation, maybe there just wasn't time for a civilizational/insanely powerful magic knowledge on-boarding process like the Elves and Dwarfs had which allowed those two races an initial leg up in the world.

Or maybe they just stuck the Shaggoths over in Norsca as part of whatever deal got made between the dragons and the old ones, "these guys are annoying you, we want to study them, your not using this chunk of land up north right? Great! Yoink, oh the study's well wrote on you." And they broke free when they and the Fimir invited Chaos in to spite the dragons and old ones.

I'd say that The Horned Rat was either an old god of the dwarves who betrayed his brother to regain lost power and make a new race from the Dwarves in the city. A betrayal because one god thought, 'oh nice a family reunion, been a while, it'll be nice to talk about my PTSD with someone who understands' and the Horned rat stabbed them right in the back.

Or like the lore idea in the 2e Skaven book. The Horned Rat is a dwarf who didn't make the ancestor god cut or had a falling out with them (maybe because he was the sort of guy to turn people into Skaven) and used near Ancestor god level power to steal the power of an old dwarf god through treachery and properly ascend as a rat daemon god.

Also

[X] Yes
[X] Secrets
 
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Or Maybe Norsca was the Halfling Prison/lab where they were made and once the city was fucked and chaos started rolling in Halflings made there way to the Old World reasoning that it was to cold to grow any good crops for pie and beer (I only half joke here) with minimal trouble (for a given value of minimum during an apocalypse) due to their being mutation resistant and the chaos gods having better targets than these beings that were even shorter than dwarves, it might explain why Halflings are so concentrated in the old world and why no one really knows where they came from,
Except we do know that; they traveled alongside the pre-Imperial human tribes who crossed the World's Edge Mountains and settled into the Reik basin. The Halflings are largely concentrated in one place because the Moot is a place where they are in charge, and is on the whole one of the safest places to live in the Old World as well as being built on some of the most fertile land in the entire Reik basin.
 
Far as I know, she did nothing and was noteworthy entirely because of constant conflicting sources saying the Grand Theogonist refused to announce her as Empress, either because she was in the single digits age wise, because she was a girl, or because she was a puppet of the Marienburgers.

Certainly, no one's talking about her grave being a gender neutral bathroom, so I would say she's not much of an expy.

I haven't checked myself, but according to the notoriously unimpeachable source that is The Internet, she was referred to as the Bronze Lady in one of the novels.
 
We don't know much about the nature of these spirits.

We don't know much about using Ulgu to bind spirits.
Hold one. You seem to misunderstood what boney said because if you want to know about these things you pick apparation binding option we have.

You don't get to learn these then pick apparation binding, That is not how this quest works. So your argument that we need to learn how to bind apparation before binding one is contrary to what WoG on the issue. In fact apparation binding option is the option to learn these.


We were told that if we want to know more about Apparitions we need to go study them in the wild
No we were told to pick apparation binding if you want to know more about it. Boney was clear on that. Arcane marks and Gazul lore both are unrelated. Stop saying they are related unless you can cite it.
 
Now that Im writing this Im kind of wondering why theres no Thatcher equivalent in WHF :D
There isn't one in Fantasy, to my knowledge, but they did put one in at the earliest days of 40k.

Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka.
I think that's a fandom rumor. Andy Chambers (who first came up with Ghazghkull) has supposedly denied it (I can only find screenshots, original link to source broken), saying the name was derived from his gaming group which in turn was cribbing from Tolkien's Black Speech for his orcs.

"Ghash" and "Uruk" are attested words in Tolkien's legendarium meaning "Fire" and "Orc", the other elements can be speculatively extrapolated from "nazgul", "Gothmog" and "thrakatuluk" (Ringwraith, a named Balrog, and in the Ring inscription respectively).
 
So I was reading Lord Kroak's profile for Age of Sigmar, and something mentioned in there is making me chuckle because of a meme that's stuck in my brain. It might be from AoS, but it's fully applicable to WHF too:

"Lord Kroak is no longer alive in the conventional sense; his ancient and withered form is preserved only by his indomitable spirit. As such, he is almost immune to all but the most devastating attacks."
Just replace "human" with "toad" and you're set.
 
The swamp town could have been pretty cool...
Yeah, but it would have meant living most of the people that Mathilde knows behind. But otherwise, I'd have hesitated between that and WP.

Édit: i would have loved to see how Mathilde would have interacted with the Slaans. Also what she would see with magesight when looking at them.
Didn't you hear? Kroak has a part time job providing deliveries. Deliveries of Itza.
Not just Itza :V
Pizza is too powerful for this world.
 
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Ooooor we go looking for Dwarfs in Lustria. Because we did just receive some info that would suggest there are some in that direction
I think we'd have better luck looking for Zorn first.

At least we can probably be reasonably confident that Zorn existed.

Not that we'd have much luck looking for Zorn- it's still one hold in an entire mountain range.
 
I do want to state I want Mathilde to focus on the Waystone project right now. Gallivanting across the world is fun, but let's do that after our long term commitments.
 
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