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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Nurgle said:
I would like to learn to bind demons first or codify rite of way, really any of the many things we on backlog. Let's try to go through backlog first people.
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We are trying to go through backlog for the last 20 turns.

But don't worry, battle magic is not on the big agenda right now, mostly because we don't have any fights we need to prepare for (that we know of).
 
Orbmorb said:
Is it weird that Cor-Dum has access to Khsar powers at all? Like were those dormant in Mhorgur and he just didn't use them previously because his beastman followers loved forests?

Or did whatever binding the Dawi did have to regress him through Khsar to reach the Teacher/Warden and that reintegrated desert winds?
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Good question. Borek had this to say:
Boney said:
"But even after it had forgotten, we remembered its true name.[...]Karag Dum called the being that was Shadowgave, that was city-father, and that was the desert wind, because the first thing it was, was the teacher and warden of the Dawi. So once more it teaches and it wards, and the skulls of Kurgan and the essence of Daemons sink into the sands that it rules.
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So yes, it appears that Karag Dum somehow made Khsar revert to his original nature, possibly by literally knowing His true name - true names having power over dameons is an old trope, and while Morghur isn't quite that it wouldn't be too strange for that to apply here. It's an open question if Morghur could do this before and didn't want to, but I think that if we go by Borek's story Morghur is pretty much insane and has literally forgot what it was before so He probably wouldn't have managed to use his old powers without the Dawi doing something to Him.
 
Nurgle said:
Warp entities or things that live in the warp. But yes we will call them apparitions.
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Of course you would say that, grandpa! :V Afawk, apparitions are warp beings that don't serve one of the Four. Calling all warp beings apparitions is putting Lords of Change in the same group as our snek, which doesn't sound super precise, nor safe (because pyres).
 
Speaking of Apparitions, I really want a Whispering Darkness, because it fits the "fog/mists/miasma" theme we have going on, and it's a good candidate for the name "Mathilde's Malevolent Miasma", which I've had rattling around my head for years now.
 
Tobtorp said:
Still want the rider more. That is certainly a fitting idea but having your own Nazgul is just hard to beat.
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Some sort of Dusk Rider would seem to have the strongest resonance with our personal local-legendhood. I suppose it's possible that would help with forming the binding, if the nature and features of Apparitions are in some way shaped by the expectations of the Wizards they hunt.
 
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Nerdasaurus Rex said:
Speaking of Apparitions, I really want a Whispering Darkness, because it fits the "fog/mists/miasma" theme we have going on, and it's a good candidate for the name "Mathilde's Malevolent Miasma", which I've had rattling around my head for years now.
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I also like the idea of the whispering darkness for the reasons you mention and I am also hopeful that it will have some synergetic interactions with our arcane marks and our staff, but there is a strong Red Rider lobby and I am not too hopeful that it will win.

Honestly, if we wait long enough the appiration issue will be forced the same way the apprentice issue was forced. I mean, Eike is bound to have a bad miscast eventually, right?
 
mathymancer said:
I also like the idea of the whispering darkness for the reasons you mention and I am also hopeful that it will have some synergetic interactions with our arcane marks and our staff, but there is a strong Red Rider lobby and I am not too hopeful that it will win.

Honestly, if we wait long enough the appiration issue will be forced the same way the apprentice issue was forced. I mean, Eike is bound to have a bad miscast eventually, right?
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If she gets an apparition, it'd be one we couldn't bind because it feeds on Ulgu.
 
Codex said:
If she gets an apparition, it'd be one we couldn't bind because it feeds on Ulgu.
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Boney has clarified that this is not the case for most appirations. Apparently:
Boney said:
It's not a matter of never being allowed to have any of what they eat near them ever, it's that you're going to have a bad time if they straight up eat your magic raw and you try to use that magic to bind them. For Ulgu, that's only the case with the Asp and the Lost Child.
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The Whispering Darkness is drawn to mind magic, so a whole bunch of Ulgu spells can cause it to manifest, but it's still bindable.

EDIT: The Rider in Red probably can't be caused by Ulgu miscasts, but the Handmaidens are drawn among other things to "spells of transmutation", and I think that among the Relatively Simple spells Doppelganger, Eye of the Beholder, Mutable Visage and maybe Shadowcloak are spells that might cause it to manifest.
And if we want Eike to draw Riders in Red and other interesting appirations like Black Essence we can just let her read the Liber Mortis and try out some spells. It's a foolproof plan.
 
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As part of of the Red rider lobby I would like to remind that we can bind multiple of the same kind of apparations as seen by golden hounds. So nothing is stopping us from going full Witch King and binding 8-9* of them. Instant cavalary squad is enough to ruin anybodies day. And very stylish.
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*full Sauron option
**Horse*** goes brr.
***It also looks like outgrowth of Shadowsteed which is cool as hell.
 
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Tasoli said:
As part of of the Red rider lobby I would like to remind that we can bind multiple of the same kind of apparations as seen by golden hounds. So nothing is stopping us from going full Witch King and binding 8-9* of them. Instant cavalary squad is enough to ruin anybodies day. And very stylish.
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Cool as it would be, binding that many seems like a risk
 
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