dinomannitro6
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Well yes, but looking back on it now it is draped in hilarious dramatic irony
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Oh. I think I failed to recognise the irony. D'oh.
I'm actually pretty sure that Boney rolled for Karag Dum's status after we already set out on the Expedition. He had a 3x3 chart with outcomes decided depending on factors, and he teased us with it. I don't think we'll ever know the other 8 outcomes.
I'm actually pretty sure that Boney rolled for Karag Dum's status after we already set out on the Expedition. He had a 3x3 chart with outcomes decided depending on factors, and he teased us with it. I don't think we'll ever know the other 8 outcomes.
If I recall correctly, one of the results was the canon outcome, which was basically Dum got stuck in a time warp and only 20 years had passed for them, but most of the population had died from rebuffing constant attacks from demons and the like anyway.
But yeah, the other 7 are a mystery.
Mathilde kind of made a reference to this in-text:
Who indeed. This is why you should read all books on all topics, just in case.
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Seems like Ymir are just local name for Yhetees (which are not beastmen, but could be easily confused for them).
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Ymir are mentioned as Beastmen in 6th Edition Beastmen Army Book. They are Beastmen, not Yeti. Yeti are mutated Ogres and live in the Ancient Giant Lands/Mountains of Mourne.
Also, more importantly, they have a statblock and description in Page 140 of Tome of Corruption 2E:
"The Ymir are believed to be an offshoot race of Beastmen. Savage and bestial, they are cunning hunters who prey exclusively on Humans. Unlike the Beastmen, Ymir are generally solitary creatures, only meeting with another to produce a few whelps. They have no formal language, communicating in guttural growls and grunts. An Ymir stands just over seven-foot tall and weighs over 300 pounds. Its entire body is covered in thick, shaggy, white hair that gains a yellowish hue towards its lower body. They have an unpleasant smell, stinking of sour milk and rotten flesh. Most Ymir have frozen chunks of blood and flesh caught in their fur, which they pry off to eat when hunting is scarce."
I'm pretty sure they're Beastmen.
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So you're saying the Warhammer world convergently evolved yetis at least twice? I'd be both shocked and delighted if the same wasn't already true for carnivorous horses.
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I'm pretty sure the Ymir are referencing Nordic stories of Ymir, ancestor of the Jotunn. It's true that they're not giants and more like yetis, but that's the concept anyway.
I'm not sure what you mean by carnivorous horses. Are you referring to the Hagranym? I can't think of any other cannibalistic "horses" off the top of my head. Plenty of horse like animals though.
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Dark Steeds that dark elves use can eat meat and regularly do, Dark Pegasi as well. I count both as horses.
EDIT: On the topic of giants, I'm glad Age Of Sigmar has been giving them their own culture instead of making them all hermits and slaves.
IDK why GW's writing department is weird like that.
EDIT: On the topic of giants, I'm glad Age Of Sigmar has been giving them their own culture instead of making them all hermits and slaves.
IDK why GW's writing department is weird like that.
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Mopman43
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Well, it's been worshipped as a god(dess) in at least two cultures.
Frankly with Morrslieb you can't really be sure. It being actively malevolent wouldn't be the wildest theory.
It's generally assumed morrslieb is somewhat sentient, in that the moon is surprisingly willing to kill everything if given even the slightest chance too. Also iirc in the end times he rains down on Malus out of spite or something.
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It's unclear, but it does seem to act upon its own undecipherable will at times. Its phases, movement, direction, and even size can change almost at a whim, and those who attempt to predict the actions of the Chaos moon often go mad in the process.
It's certainly worshipped by the beastmen, and has been for a long time. Warhammer's the kind of setting where if it wasn't sapient before, it probably is now.
The best canonical indication that Morrslieb is an actual being and not just another tool of Chaos is probably Moonclaw, a Beastmen special character that was spawned by the moon, having literally been hurled to Malus one night while the green moon hung perilously low in the sky. It spends most of its time wandering and babbling, but every once in a while it gathers a warherd for the purpose of hunting and destroying waystones.
As we continue our path, perhaps we'll have the chance to verify just how sapient Morrslieb is ourselves.
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It's always odd to me when solitary predator species are described as being really fucking obvious and non-stealthy, which is what smelling strongly and badly is. You'd think that even in grimdark it would be obvious that that sort of nastiness is for armies where intimidation matters but stealth doesn't.
Solo hunters sound be very concerned with hygiene so as to remain undetectable.
Solo hunters sound be very concerned with hygiene so as to remain undetectable.
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Worship doesn't necessarily make something sapient, even if that something is a magical entity, as otherwise the worship of Gnistre/Da Moon Wurm would've made the Chamon elemental in Salzenmund sapient by now.
dinomannitro6
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Honestly in the Chaos Wastes, I wouldn't be surprised if smelling strongly and badly was olfactory camouflage.
I'm not super well versed on literal rocket science, but my understanding is that the conventional hard requirements are that you need something that contains a lot of energy because you have to carry all your fuel with you, you need something that can release all that energy quickly because every second you take is another second you're being clawed back down by gravity and air resistance, and you need your craft to be able to contain and withstand both of those.
The Skaven solved this with warpstone-based rocket fuel, the downsides of which are fairly self-apparent. Thankfully humanity has evolved past these self-destructive methods, as the use of mercury-based rocket fuels has been banned by the UN since the primitive and dangerous era of *checks notes* two months ago.
The Skaven solved this with warpstone-based rocket fuel, the downsides of which are fairly self-apparent. Thankfully humanity has evolved past these self-destructive methods, as the use of mercury-based rocket fuels has been banned by the UN since the primitive and dangerous era of *checks notes* two months ago.
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To be fair, up until a few years ago, apparently nobody had ever put any effort into trying to build one.
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What I think makes rocket science a little strange in Warhammer is the slightly funky physics I mentioned before - the kind that gets you steam-powered aircraft and mechanical horses without any magic, and possibly even without proper coal. Plus the ice rays. Is a space rocket ship possible for Renaissance-era Europe and China? Hell no. Cathay and the Empire? A hard no is a trickier thing to manage.
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Mercury and other dense chemicals don't make for good fuel. For maximum efficiency, you want the lightest exhaust products possible. Mercury would only be useful if you wanted a ton of thrust, or were extremely limited in volume. As far as I know, it was evaluated in a few experiments and then discarded as a possible fuel in the 60s.
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If you are ever bored and want a short and entertaining read about the history of rocket fuel development, Ignition! by John D. Clark is a classic. It is basically a chronicle of a bunch of mad scientists throwing chemistry at the wall to see what explodes in the most agreeable way. It's very easy to find and the prose is delightful.
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According to the book Ignition, the US Bureau of Naval Weapons was trying to find a chemical supplier crazy enough to whip up a hundred pounds of dimethylmercury in the 50s, and when they failed they ended up trying straight liquid mercury as a high-density propellant in some poor patch of desert in New Jersey.
Thanks to a whistleblower in a tech startup, we know that at least one company was looking at it as a method to disrupt and innovate satellite ion engines in 2018.
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Eh- the two main things needed are a heat source and a type of mass you can chuck backwards, and there are a lot of options for each piece. I suspect that it's a lot harder/slower to get out of atmo, given the densities implied by the flying things in canon, but if you switched from inexhaustible flame/water to gunpowder rockets as magic started to fail I bet you could make it work.
That would be a hell of a kitbashed design look though.
That would be a hell of a kitbashed design look though.
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It was considered as a propellant additive for missiles intended to travel at high velocity near sea level, where air resistance is a big issue and keeping the fuel volume down means a sleeker design and significant benefits.
The equivalent to the warpstone rocket is probably a nuclear salt water rocket.