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Fun update Boney, thanks. Particularly enjoyed the interactions with Dragomas and the A-Ha moment for Mathilde on the Orbs.
Pay no mind to the Karag Nar Gunnery School becoming the Burgstaller Gunnery School.
Poor Adela has to keep feeding the Beast.
[ ] Nepotism: You have a large family, many of whom are eager for prestigious and well-paying jobs. You do this for them because you love them, of course. Actually getting some peace and quiet at home is just a side-benefit.
Reliable source of very loyal candidates for key roles; malus to all rolls if these positions are not found on a regular basis. A very prestigious position might buy you a few years, or you could fill sundry middle management positions every year.
I suppose this might boost the desire to create the Sevirscope if it allows us to see the winds in their moments of conception.
There are a couple of Hysh Battle magics that speed an individuals movements or actions- do they work cognitively, too? It isn't mentioned in the description, but I think I recall may have been implied somewhere over the quest?
That was in any case my first thought for a possible attempt to answer this-
How do you derive useful insight from an event that is over in a fraction of a second, is invisible to conventional senses, and is blinding to unconventional ones?
A battlemagic-casting Hysh caster, when they're eventually read in to the Vitae, anyway.
 
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…I'm assuming Orbs are the same durability as Powerstones then? Which makes sense.

Mathilde sees no reason they would have different material properties.

So does it means that wizards can't cast spells in the 7 Colleges they aren't a part of? Because there wouldn't be any of their Wind present.

Wizards can carry a certain amount of a Wind within them, but yes, there wouldn't have any external Wind to draw upon. It's absolutely an intended part of the design that Wizards would have a massive home field advantage if they had to defend the grounds of their College, including against other types of Wizard.

Something that I can't quite wrap my head around is that the RPG says that any Wizard can draw power from the Waystones to get extra casting dice (or was it a bonus to casting? I can't quite remember and I'm not going over the books to check). Here, only the Jades have the ability to do this. Does this happen in the future when the Colleges figure stuff out, or is this a case of DL canon overwriting canon? I suppose it does make sense that Teclis wouldn't teach most of the Colleges how to draw on the Waystones to enchance their casting.

2e was post Storm of Chaos, when Teclis finally returned to the Empire. I figure he shared the full spectrum of Waystone techniques for the fight against Archaon.

I'm also not sure if the plumber thing is supposed to be taken as a subtle jab at the Elementalists. I understand that the Elementalists talk about the governing four humors theory and I believe human excretion is 100% a part of that, so I assume she's comparing the people shoveling human excrement to the Elementalists. This does bring to mind an image of Mario and Luigi being Elementalists...

I like that it can be taken that way, but what I meant is that building a system that takes advantage of water flowing downhill doesn't make someone a Water Elementalist, so by extension building a system that takes advantage of Dhar being attracted to the Great Vortex doesn't make one a Black Magister.

I mean, if the Eonir are the ones operating the Dhar mechanisms, then wouldn't it technically skirt the Articles? Or would it break the Articles even if we let the Eonir do it because the Colleges would be the ones authorising the use of an object enchanted with a sort of sorcery that "Utilises Dark Magic". The rules can get pretty finnicky here.

One currently unanswered question is the exact legal status of Laurelorn. Nordland considers it to be a part of Nordland, Middenland considers it an enclave. Sooner or later everyone involved is going to have to hammer out a hard answer, but the circumstances of what leads to that are going to be important, and it might be bad if those circumstances are 'can the Colleges legally outsource Abominable Acts to Laurelorn?'

This piques my curiosity. Does Adela count as part of the Pilots' Guild or not? I'm not sure the Guild has any procedures whatsoever for inducting a non-Guild Member to recieve the official training and qualifications to become a Pilot, since this is a bit of an unprecedented situation. I would suspect her to swear many of the same Oaths either way, but I imagine her Guild status would be a tricky bit of legaliese.

Technically as someone who isn't in either the Pilots or Engineers Guilds nor sworn to the defence of a Karak, Adela shouldn't be allowed to learn how to fly a Gyrocopter or Gyrobomber. But as Adela pointed out, Mathilde's aircraft is neither of those things and is instead an entirely civilian craft, and rules for who's allowed to fly those haven't existed in millennia. So Mathilde was able to cram Adela through that loophole amidst an only moderate amount of grumbling.

Incredibly important question. Did Mathilde take the opportunity to yoddle down these halls to test the acoustics? As a Dwarf and a Wizard, it is her duty to check the construction of her library.

She did, though that was earlier tested by the work-songs of the Masons. They like to claim that they can tell if walls are plumb or not by the sound of their songs echoing back at them.
 
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Poor Adela has to keep feeding the Beast.


There are a couple of Hysh Battle magics that speed an individuals movements or actions- do they work cognitively, too? It isn't mentioned in the description, but I think I recall may have been implied somewhere over the quest?
That was in any case my first thought for a possible attempt to answer this-

A battlemagic-casting Hysh caster, when they're eventually read in to the Vitae, anyway.
Yes, there are two spells for it. Speed of Light and Byrona's Timewarp.

Speed of Light "frees you from the burden of flesh", boosting your Weapon Skill and Initiative to 10 (the max). Byrona's Timewarp "frees you from the passage of time, speeding your actions", giving you double movement, one extra attack and Always Strikes First (you always attack first).

I assume either one or both would boost cognitive ability to match with the boost to physicality, because they'd be useless otherwise. Still, both are Battle Magic, and Timewarp is one of the most difficult and dangerous Battle Magics. They're not exactly to be casually cast, unless the person is some sort of Master of Light Speed/Timewarp like Melkoth is with his Miasma.
 
Dwarfs are much better at justifying things to themselves with hard, tangible things. Dead Orcs makes them feel much better than transporting an important individual around for a Project that might succeed, which if it does might reduce the influence of Chaos across the world. Ephemeral, incorporeal concepts are kind of hard to grasp for a human, and it's certainly worse for a Dwarf.
As far as I can tell, unlike, say, an ax, gyrocopters weren't really conceived as a tool which you could sometimes use as a weapon, but like the pikes of the Undumgi or the swords of Gazul's priests, which are weapons in function from the start. So the Pilot Clans being so focused on the martial aspects of the copter isn't all that strange.

Also, I think something that might further explain the Pilot Clans' viewpoint is something that has been mentioned in the past, which is the fact that Gyrocopter Pilots aren't that much different from Slayers.
They don't want to become a Master for the sake of becoming a Master, they want to become a Master to fly a gyrocopter in the defence of their Karak. This isn't about having a well-paying job or having the prestige of being able to wear the fancy hat and welcome the passengers aboard over the intercom, this is about strapping themselves to a hunk of metal filled with ethanol, gunpowder, and steam so they can strafe and drop bombs on a whole bunch of Orcs. Gyrocopter pilots are up there with Nautilus crews as being basically one step below Slayers.
 
I figure it's probably either a Great Deed, or will break the College Favor system like Vlag did Dwarf Favor. Either way works.
 
Would providing the Colleges with a complete set of Orbs of Sorcery count as a Great Deed?
Still, supplying the exact same somethings as Teclis already did is surely a bit of a comedown from our previous Surpass the Puissance of Teclis one-upwomanship self-benchmark. :V :V

Teclis looks at Vlag, shrugs, so sorry.
Mathilde steals Vlag from a major Daemon of Slaanesh. ;)
 
As far as I can tell, unlike, say, an ax, gyrocopters weren't really conceived as a tool which you could sometimes use as a weapon, but like the pikes of the Undumgi or the swords of Gazul's priests, which are weapons in function from the start. So the Pilot Clans being so focused on the martial aspects of the copter isn't all that strange.

Also, I think something that might further explain the Pilot Clans' viewpoint is something that has been mentioned in the past, which is the fact that Gyrocopter Pilots aren't that much different from Slayers.
Gyrocopters were rushed out the gate by Thorgrim as a method of quick communication between all the Holds, so they were initially viewed as a tool for communication. Specifically military communication, because they are recognised as a military asset. Their military capacity is their primary concern, but I think it's less about the Gyro's ability to bomb enemy groups and more about the information dominance the Dwarfs have as a result of their aerial superiority.

Still, military communication is a wholly different game than magical research, so it's not a one to one situation.
 
Cython falling behind Locals again so changing my vote... also the idea of making a spell that makes it look like a normal library only for them all to be magical spiders... and then to find out that they are all the same magical spider hive mind it too fun not to vote for.

[X] The We
[X] Cython
 
Teclis looks at Vlag, shrugs, so sorry.
Mathilde steals Vlag from a major Daemon of Slaanesh. ;)
That's not very fair to Teclis. He checked at Vlag in the aftermath of a Storm of Choas, which made it much more difficult to see subtle things. Even Mathilde says that Teclis has a better wind sight than her.

[X] The We
[X] Locals
 
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It's theoretically possible, but Mathilde would be blazing the trail herself since it hasn't been tried by College Wizards before.
Since Orbs are the size of a mans head, it seems really bad to put them on staff, its rather impractical.

Would it be possible to instead shape the power stone into staff itself via this process?
 
Still, supplying the exact same somethings as Teclis already did is surely a bit of a comedown from our previous Surpass the Puissance of Teclis one-upwomanship self-benchmark. :V :V

Teclis looks at Vlag, shrugs, so sorry.
Mathilde steals Vlag from a major Daemon of Slaanesh. ;)
Teclis gave a few over and didn't bother explaining how they're made, or even just a way to get more. We can do better.
 
By the way, in case anyone is curious why Volans remains superior to Mathilde in Windsight:

"Little is known about the enigmatic and powerful Magister Volans. When Teclis called together all renegade magic users in the Empire, Volans was by far the most educated, skilled, and powerful to answer that call.

It is said he hailed originally from the lawless area known as the Border Princes, and when he presented himself to Teclis he was already in his fifties. To Teclis's surprise there was not a shadow of taint in Volans despite his admitted decades of practice and experimentation with magic. In fact, his exposure to magic seemed to have kept him young and vibrant, as he looked only about thirty years old.

Teclis soon learned the secret of his new protégé's success: Volans was one of the few, if not the only, Humans able to perceive all the Winds of Magic in their purest form, Qhaysh. His witchsight was so developed that all illusion and limitation had been stripped from his eyes, and he could see magic as clearly as Teclis himself. Remarkable as this was, Volans knew from his very earliest experimentation that although he could perceive all the Winds, he could not use them safely. His first few attempts at doing so ended in horror and almost spelled the end of his magical career before it began. Impressively, Volans dedicated his life's research to refining his ability to just see and touch the Winds of Magic, rather than manipulate them into spells—which is how he avoided corruption for so long.

Due to his immense skill and ability, Teclis chose Volans to study the White Wind, Hysh, and when Magnus asked Teclis to form the Colleges of Magic, the Loremaster knew immediately whom he would leave in control of the White Order and all the Orders of Magic as their first Supreme Patriarch." Page 89 Realm of Sorcery 2E
 
Since Orbs are the size of a mans head, it seems really bad to put them on staff, its rather impractical.

Would it be possible to instead shape the power stone into staff itself via this process?

The reason Mathilde's immediate reaction is to shoot for the Orb of Sorcery size and shape is because she knows it works. Any other sizes and shapes would be 'try it and find out' territory.
 
That's not very fair to Teclis. He checked at Vlag in the aftermath of a Storm of Choas, which made it much more difficult to see subtle things. Even Mathilde says that Teclis has a better wind sight than her.
Well yes, it's not fair to Teclis, that's rather the joke. :)

[x] Halflings
[x] Cult of Verena
[x] Locals

[X] The We

I assume either one or both would boost cognitive ability to match with the boost to physicality, because they'd be useless otherwise. Still, both are Battle Magic, and Timewarp is one of the most difficult and dangerous Battle Magics. They're not exactly to be casually cast, unless the person is some sort of Master of Light Speed/Timewarp like Melkoth is with his Miasma.
Cython, perhaps? He cast something similar fairly casually to learn Dwarven, I think.
 
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Cython, perhaps? He cast something similar fairly casually to learn Dwarven, I think.
If he cast something it would most likely be this spell:
Inspiration: Large bonus to a Knowledge test. Long casting time.
What the brief description here doesn't tell you is that it's one minute casting time, and that the ingredient for casting it is a page from a book. Not that Cython needs the ingredient. I suppose they also could have cast something like Timewarp and Inspiration at the same time so they could cycle through the book and absorb the information at record time. I wouldn't be surprised.

I don't doubt Cython would have the ability to do it, I'm simply worried about their reaction to AV. This is "I wish I could catch Light and eat it" Cython after all. I would probably prefer to get a College Wizard first before we resort to the Knowledge eating Dragon.
 
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