It will be nice to inflict divided loyalties on other people. The cults must choose whether foreign graffiti is more important than pushing back Chaos.This may cause you trouble in the future, but you welcome a future where a problem you're dealing with is aesthetic criticism of the new Waystones being built throughout the Empire, and House Tindomiel will help you reach that future.
An obvious choice you might think, but still one that many priests and politicians will agonise over.
Has Mathilde ever managed to determine the age of any elf?
Perhaps not high praise, but certainly favourable.that at any given time there's a dozen stamped from the same mold as him in the halls of the University of Altdorf, the type that would give a lecture to a half dozen with the same enthusiasm as he would a thousand if they seemed like they were paying attention.
While the narrative has never shown Mathilde attending lectures I get the impression she very much enjoys learning from enthusiastic teachers.
Doubt that will take active effort on our part. We can best prove our competence by just being competent in his vicinity. No need for dramatic shenanigans.While the Eonir have been largely broken of the arrogance of Ulthuan by centuries of having to treat individual provinces of the Empire as their geopolitical equals, the Grey Lords predate that reality and have been insulated from it by the security of their liminal realm, and you expect you'll have to do some work to shake Hatalath into doing more than smiling indulgently down at you all and throwing out the occasional cryptic comment.
…somewhat tragically we are going to have to do to him what we did to Belegar. Warp his world view such that how he perceives his obligations and priorities changes. Except this time we are doing it deliberately.Thorek, on the other hand, seems more willing to engage, but very severely restricted in how he can do so. The Cult of Thungni has very strong opinions on the importance of keeping their secrets, and it will take a fair bit of tact and sensitivity to extract much useful from him.
I see Mathilde is categorising Cadaeth as an elf. I was under the impression she was something else.At the head of a table of seven humans, three Elves and a Dwarf
Well I like it."Some might see this as reason to despair, because the gulf between our modern capabilities and the wonders of the distant past is very well-documented. But we're not talking about a holy artefact crafted by a God, or a one-off masterwork of a long-dead genius, or a unique confluence of unlikely circumstances. These things were mass-produced and erected across four continents. However inspired the development of them must have been, the result was something that was implemented, managed, and maintained by the ordinary.
"The best of today may not be the equal of the best of the Golden Age, but I damn well think we can measure up to their Max Mustermanns and Chuj Gowies, their Okri Okrissons and Thananludwigs."
You'll never admit if part of you was hoping for a standing ovation, but the firm nods from all present is enough to go forward with
Also it is a good narrative to push. The skills of the modern age might not be as great as the ancients managed, but we are far from incapable.
That was perhaps the biggest hurdle. If we couldn't all understand each other than cooperating would have been much more difficult.The first matter is a rather dull one of terminology,
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But for now, you take the win and call a break for lunch.
Perhaps it is a good thing we didn't get the Damsels yet. Weather or not their arcane knowledge is of Ulthuan, or even elvish in general, decent the fact that they mix secular and divine power may have been a stumbling block.
While this is noted to be a specific type of Waystone there doesn't seem to be any interest in comparing it with other variants. Could be deliberate on Mathilde's part as she has only examined this type. Could be they agreed off-screen that optimisation can wait for later."This," you say as you use Ulgu to draw in the air a wireframe representation of your object of study at Fort Brachsenbrücke, "is what I believe to be a typical representation of the most common form of Waystone in the lowlands of the Old World, erected by the combined efforts of Ulthuan and the Karaz Ankor.
And Hatalath has no way to know that that single line is essentially everything Mathilde knows about the Old Ones."The cunning beings in silver ships," you observe.
Hatalath's smile fades and he gives you a long, thoughtful look. "Yes. Them."
Grey Wizard MO: drop mystic hints and bluff like hell.
Notably there are working Waystones without the symbol so it clearly isn't a critical component. Still, something to test in the prototype phase."But is it a loanword, a mere label, or is it an active mechanism in the workings of the Waystone?
It is highly unlikely we will convince him to teach those techniques. Which means if we do incorporate it into the design we will need a Runesmith to help with every Waystone."Part of the Dwarven contribution to the Waystones," Thorek finally chimes in, "was the application of certain techniques of Runesmithing while carving those Runes, which enhanced the effect it had upon the stone." He offers no more than that, and for now you make no attempt to extract more.
Something to consider.
Almost certainly an active component and almost certainly a synthetic alloy. We may need more Gold Wizards than Johann is there is alchemy to be done, but with luck it is just smithing that Max or other high quality blacksmiths can accomplish.
It is a shame really. The Lich Priests have a lot of knowledge that would be of great use to the project. But getting that knowledge out of them is hilariously difficult and trying to include them in the project… no."It is theorized that the pyramidions of Nehekhara may be made of the same substance, though that would be a carefully-kept secret of the Mortuary Cult and, of course, rather fraught to investigate further," she says.
This has a rather deep implication. Specifically that the 'Star of Chaos' is a neutral thing that the forces of Chaos use, rather than being something that is in itself of Chaos.Wheel of Magic
Star of Chaos
Gate of Cosmic Order
Elemental Compass
That will be very important for the logistics of mass implementation. And should be helpful for finding any 'missing' Waystone sites."Energy flows along the cardinal directions are easiest to maintain," Cadaeth says. "And ordinal ones, to a lesser extent."
Hope Mathilde knows how to account for planetary curvature.
I'm starting to suspect that Hatalath is either lazy or uninterested in the Project.Hatalath is giving you another thoughtful look now, which you take as a good sign.
He didn't bother to read up on the laws governing the Waystones and he didn't bother to investigate the other participants. Both Mathilde and Johann have very advanced Wind Sight.
This implies that elves can use Dhar without disastrous results. Which likely means the Druchii don't have any One Neat Trick for using Dark Magic. They are just face tanking the Dhar."The shadow and the smoke rather suit you, but I suppose the equivalents for Dhar would be rather disastrous for humans, wouldn't they? So you'd never even touch it."
While the Article breach is the most important part of this, it should also be noted that this is very useful information for Windhearding. And potentially even the 'magic tongs' idea. Possibly not information we can use directly, but we shall see."Why push or pull when there's something at hand that will do it for you? Dhar wants to return from whence it came, and it pulls on the other Winds. If you add one other Wind it'll just get sucked into the Dhar which is counterproductive if you want to make use of that Wind elsewhere, but if you have at least two you can set them up in a stable diametric orbit, as they repel each other exactly as much as the Dhar attracts them."
An unexpected benefit of having rival factions that know some of each others secrets."On my last visit to Kislev, I did notice that the flow from Kislev City goes north to Praag."
"It is Ice Witch business," Zlata says apologetically.
"They took the leylines of the Elves and turned it into their own vortex," Niedzwenka says with a snort.
And yet, the Winds continue to flow south past Kislev. There is no noticable difference between the strength of magic south of Kislev and the strength south-east/west of Kislev. Nor is Kislev suffering from a continual and unchecked build-up of magic, which would eventually cause demons to spontaneously manifest."Around and around, Erengrad to Kislev City to Praag to Castle Alexandronov and back to Erengrad again, spinning it from Winds to Ice for the Widow's Witches to use against Kislev's enemies. Didn't the Elves howl and screech when they finally returned to Norvard and found their precious stones serving human masters!"
Worth looking into.
On the one hand, feature creep. On the other I seem to recall the original proposal Cadaeth outlined explicitly included the creation of 'secondary' networks. So Mathilde has all the justification she needs to think about it.trying to keep your thoughts from being entirely consumed by wild plans to do something similar within the Empire.
It is not discussed whether leylines are a natural phenomenon and 'made to flow' means redirecting them, or if they are built from scratch."Via Fort Solace," Cadaeth says. "It is difficult for leylines to be made to flow under mountains."
"Difficult for Elves," Thorek mutters.
Not really a threat they can use. Blocking the Waystone is not an immediate problem. It would take years for significant deleterious effects to manifest. By which time the Empire would have mustered their forces and conquered the place, with Ulthuan's full support. The Asur care far more about the Network than about a merchant alliance."I really don't like the idea of Marienburg being able to hold half the continent hostage," you say faintly.
...seriously? Seriously?! The Dwarfs were using a continent-spanning industrial mega-project, one which powers their life support, to brew beer.
Pretty sure he was talking about Albion. Which suggests that finding Albion can be done by following the layline."I see... wait, no I don't. Straight west of L'Anguille is nothing but ocean until Naggaroth."
Hatalath blinks. "I must be thinking of somewhere else, then," he says, and rather evasively, it seems to you.
Not useful knowledge at present, but something to file away for future reference.
Point of order: We have no actual evidence that Ulthuan makes deliberate use of the magic gathered by the Waystone network. To the best knowledge of everyone present the Asur dump all the energy directly into the Great Vortex.So that makes five different polities, aside from Ulthuan, that are using the Waystone Network for their own betterment.
Presumably looking at Waystones that lack some of those elements and observing differences will be an option."The Rune, the capstone's metal, the foundational wheel, the leylines, the tributaries, and the other networks. Six different avenues of investigation for us to discuss further.
A problem, but a simple one. None of the authorities of relevance are zealous idiots. We can get the permission needed, it just involves some paperwork.
All the 'scheme around it' options have the twin problems of a) not standing up to direct scrutiny and b) implying that we thing this is something we had to hide.
Although which of the two options is better… will take some thought.
In general it is interesting to note how firmly Mathilde directed the discussion. She is making it very clear that this is her project and that she is in-charge. As well as presenting things to the group that others have presented to her, rather than letting others present to the group.
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