On the other hand, the Hedgewise's relationship with the Colleges is normally rather thorny, hence Kurtis having become a quadruple agent in the first place. So I'd say it evens out.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Ehhh, bretonnia seems.. Not worse but much more distant. Bretonnia only knows us through a few stories they have no connection with. We could be the next nagash for all they can verify. (not that bad but as a example.)
I apologize too, the version of me that has a glass of wine in one hand and a phone he's waving around for a signal in the other assumes his first read of something is correct and has a tendency to flounce.
Actual answer: Social action votes are supposed to be based on what people would subjectively enjoy reading, and allowing it to be used to investigate something like this would set a precedent too far into a grey area for my liking.
Yes, I didn't weigh in on the Hedgewise perception of that matter because Mathilde has no way to know it. She has seen Hedgewise risking the company of College Wizards for the sake of knowledge, though - either at the Waaagh and Peace talk or Roswita's Vampire economics talk, I can't recall which offhand.
The question to ask is 'how much of a factor is random chance in the action, and could one or two discrete tweaks of random chance meaningfully alter the outcome', and that's a matter to be debated among the thread rather than outright asked of the QM.
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Hmmmmm. That's just what Boney would say, if Wiadi were Boney but lying about it.
This is just like that time Boney tried to convince everyone that he didn't get his ear bitten off by a horse!
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[X] Plan Disregard WEBMAT, Acquire AP (Fatherless)
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Your vote is broken. There should be a bracket on the left side too or it won't count in the tally.
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I don't know, but let's ask Egrimm. He's supposed to be well-versed in how to fight Choas…
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Lara Croft and Indiana Jones. I wonder if they're alive in Divided Loyalties. Maybe we can hire them for our library. Hopefully they don't bring the Tomb Kings down on us if we do.
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If they do exist, there is an alternative universe in which one of them ended up as our Elector Count:
Picking up on this point, I think that there are three logical steps to the Lay the Foundations:
1) Does the representative of a given tradition know anything about Waystones? If not, they're stuck listening
2) If a tradition knows something, can their representative describe it in a way other members can understand
3) Can these explanations by synthesised into a consistent framework.
Now, the Gambler can't effect step 1. The person either knows something or they don't.
It can effect step 2. These are people who use a variety of different arcane languages* to describe magical phenomena. I don't think anyone here has learned more than one of them, so there is no one who can do any direct translation from one arcane language to even one other. That means that we probably need to translate everything into mundane languages, probably Reikspeil, which doesn't have the vocabulary or grammar that you want to talk about magic. On top of this even wizards from the same paradigm sharing the same language find it very hard to teach each other**. Here we have different paradigms and different languages. As a result, the use of metaphors will probably be absolutely critical. Luck plays a massive role here, as a participant happening to chose a particularly good one because they've been inspired by a random event they saw could lead to a sudden outbreak of understanding that can be built on.
For three, inspiration is probably also critical, and the Gambler can once more play its part by generating random phenomena that trigger the right kind of thought.
Creativity and inspiration seem like things that are so path dependent that small nudges can have huge impacts.
* Aonoquean for the Grey Lords, Lingua Praestina for the Collegiate Wizards, unknown for the Hags and Ice Witches, but could be different or the same, another unknown dialect of Makick for the Hedgewise if they're here, and probably Arcane Khazalid for the Runesmiths.
** In retrospect we should have tried to recruit the Bright Lord Magister who made MAP into MAPP. He clearly had a knack for translating between paradigms.
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Random Thought: What if Ranald is trolling Mathilde and she's one his daughters?
Me, struck
Random Thought: What if Ranald is trolling Mathilde and she's one his daughters?
Me, struck
My Ranald-Daughter showerthought that I can't shake is what if Ranald created the daughters after the influx of power from Mork? We know that Ellinill split off bundles of himself into separate deities, and that he was tricked (by Loec/Ranald) into devouring them to regain his power. What if Ranald took some of the excess power, shared it with Shallya and budded off some offspring in the same process Ellinill did?
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That would make Mathilde the... midwife? Startwife? IDK.
That does create timeline issues for identifying which goddesses are the Daughters, but timelines are wack anyway for gods so maybe not.
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(Well, I say "wine", but Mathlde's drinks of choice seem to be brandys and ales)
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Is that a good idea? I imagine the motor sounding weird would be one of the ways to identify potential incoming problem.