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[X] [PURCHASE] The Lady: Extensive Bretonnian, Shallya: Extensive Bretonnian, The Kingdom Of Bretonnia: Extensive Bretonnian, Trade: Extensive Eonir, A dwarven axe for Baba Brzeginias/Gerdouen

It's probably hard to get rate of fire when every shell has to be handmade by an artisan instead of an assembly line, and it's not like you can do the Somme when all of it has to be transported by wagon and barge instead of by train and steamer.
 
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[X] [LIBRARY] Back-fill.
[X] [PURCHASE] The Lady: Extensive Bretonnian, Shallya: Extensive Bretonnian, The Kingdom Of Bretonnia: Extensive Bretonnian, Trade: Extensive Eonir
 
[X] [PURCHASE] The Lady: Extensive Bretonnian, Shallya: Extensive Bretonnian, The Kingdom Of Bretonnia: Extensive Bretonnian.

[X] [PURCHASE] The Lady: Extensive Bretonnian, Shallya: Extensive Bretonnian, The Kingdom Of Bretonnia: Extensive Bretonnian, Trade: Extensive Eonir
 
[X] [PURCHASE] A bottle of dwarven spirits- preferably of the same batch we used to burn Drycha- for the enchanter who made the Dragonflask.

Let's give this guy a nice reward for the excellent job he did.
 
Right, now that my early-morning just-woke-up "oh crap the vote is open" energy is spent, some more measured reactions to things:

I've updated the Brief History of the Waystone Project with the notes from our social actions, adding the extra mini-socials as subactions of the wedding. Shame we didn't get to chat with the cult of Taal or a priest of Ranald, but ah well, I'm not unhappy with what we did get.

It's a shame that we're unlikely to get Damsels unless we can clear out the orcs, which seems... tricky to manage, if Carcassonne hasn't been able to do it themselves. That seems like a task that'd need an army, and the only one in the area we might be able to borrow is Karak Norn's, and I am skeptical about that for a number of reasons.

Bribing Scrollbearers seems doable: my reading of that is that if we've got rare books they'd really like access to, they'll be willing to play ball. On the flip side, are Knights of the Scroll reasonable enough folks that letting them be part of the Library's security would go well?

Okri is adorable.
forming an entirely unofficial celebration almost as lively as yesterdays
yesterdays -> yesterday's
 
I don't think we'd need to clear out the Iron Orcs to get the Damsels help, I think that identifying what's up with them and wrecking the place that's making their chaos armour would be enough and something Mathilde has the tools to do.
 
On the flip side, are Knights of the Scroll reasonable enough folks that letting them be part of the Library's security would go well?
We only have Tome of Salvation to tell us about their temperament, but yeah. They guard libraries and temples, stop witch hunters from burning books, and go to dangerous locations to recover lost knowledge. They'd be pretty good guards for KAU and would make good companions if we ever go some dangerous place to recover lost knowledge, like Drakenhof for instance.
 
Maybe some books on Apparitions? I really would like to get to that apparition binding sometime. Its super cool and we spent a lot to get it.

Is there any reason not to buy absolute craptons of books, by the way? It feels like we have a lot of money and I can't think of much else we really want to spend it on.
 
I don't think we'd need to clear out the Iron Orcs to get the Damsels help, I think that identifying what's up with them and wrecking the place that's making their chaos armour would be enough and something Mathilde has the tools to do.
Yeah, Mathilde only needs to intervene enough to help, not solve the problem entirely by herself.

*eyes this turn's adventures*

Assuming Mathilde can restrain herself. :thonk:
 
Maybe some books on Apparitions? I really would like to get to that apparition binding sometime. Its super cool and we spent a lot to get it.

Is there any reason not to buy absolute craptons of books, by the way? It feels like we have a lot of money and I can't think of much else we really want to spend it on.
The reason is "sometimes stuff comes up where it's useful to have money, and because of the Vow of Poverty most ways of getting money fast are closed to us, so keeping a rainy-day fund has strategic value." We make 200gc a turn, which is a lot, but which is only two Extensive topics or one Extensive+Antiquarian level topic out of pocket.

I am also interested in pursuing Apparition binding, but not urgently enough to spend 250gc and 4 CF out of pocket right now instead of waiting a turn or two to take the "[ ] [LIBRARY] Colleges of Magic: name four magical, non-divine topics to acquire all available Empire books on. option" and get three other topics thrown in into the bargain.
 
Is there any reason not to buy absolute craptons of books, by the way? It feels like we have a lot of money and I can't think of much else we really want to spend it on.
Unexpected problems/opportunities, which by definition can't really be predicted but can often be solved/simplified/taken advantage of through application of money.

I am a little sad there's little interest in sending Baba Brzeginias a present as thanks. She essentially did 100% of the work for us on Paranoth's request with a single spell.
 
Maybe some books on Apparitions? I really would like to get to that apparition binding sometime. Its super cool and we spent a lot to get it.

Good point, that is something we could plausibly do next turn. In regards to just spending all our money, we do have a history of large lump sum expenses so it's nice to keep a healthy reserve.

[X] [LIBRARY] Colleges of Magic: Apparitions, Power Stones, Forest Spirits, Liminal Realms
[X] [PURCHASE] The Lady: Extensive Bretonnian, Shallya: Extensive Bretonnian, The Kingdom Of Bretonnia: Extensive Bretonnian, Trade: Extensive Eonir, Apparitions: Extensive and Esoteric Imperial, A dwarven axe for Baba Brzeginias/Gerdouen
[X] [COLLEGE] No purchase.
[X] [PURCHASE] No purchase.
 
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I'm somewhat wary of involving Verenans in our library simply because of our many restricted and even forbidden texts. I imagine they at least want to have access to those if not demand them to be more accessible in general. Open knowledge for all and restricted/forbidden knowledge dont mix well.
 
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This.

Among other things, machine guns don't actually do anything to a typical target that a platoon or two worth of riflemen can't do to the same target, and at the time of their introduction there were a lot more than 1-2 platoons of riflemen in a given army per machine gun emplacement. Machine guns make some very real differences at the tactical level to details, but they're not the thing that really changes the game at the operational and higher level.

By contrast, breechloading artillery does something riflemen really can't do, namely slaughter infantrymen from several miles away at ranges where they cannot hope to retaliate or even capture the guns that are doing this to them. Because the gunners will unfailingly be shooting from behind a defending infantry screen with entrenchments, and you will never get through the infantry lines fast enough to catch up before those guns are limbered up and pulled away to do it to you all over again.
Eh. Machineguns give you a lot of concentrated fire, which makes charges pretty chancy, and are smaller targets. That's a big tactical change, and that'll echo through the whole force structure. With artillery, it's not so much breech loading as it's long range that really changes things, though the higher fire rate is important. But as with the machine gun, you could just have more in parallel to compensate for firing rate.

But both are missing the same underlying key: Mass production of munitions (and arms, but that's a lesser issue, because the dwarfs could built up to it over time). A machine gun relies on having a shitton of bullets to throw down range. So does replacing a machinegun with a bunch of dudes with rifles. And long range indirect fire also requires a ton of munition, because you're firing essentially blind beyond a vague 'thereabouts'.

And that mass production is an issue for the dwarfs, because it goes against their whole framework of production. If each shell is handcrafted, then you just won't have the ammunition for the sort of industrialized war that characterised WW1. And each shell will be so precious that throwing it blind doesn't make any sense, you have to make each count. A really quick estimate gives me something like 37 shells per hit in WW1 (20 Million+20 mio wounded, and half of that is civillians, vs 1.5 Billion shells. Though the last number isn't something I would bet a lot on. It's huge regardless) Dwarfs cannot afford that level of waste. I don't know what the rate for bullets is, but it's pretty terrible too.

So based on that, we won't be seeing widespread WW1-style combat. Okri is talking about an elite unit for force projection. It's the equivalent of the Empire sending a bunch of wizards on pegasi to blast something.

One final note: Even if the dwarfs decided to embrace automised production (and dwarfs can change their mind, when pressed), then they still can't produce enough ammo. They don't have the niter. Hell, they already can't make as much gunpowder as they want. IRL, it was a quite important ressource (there were wars fought over this shit, pun gleefully intended), and you had only two places with significant amounts of it. The dwarfs don't have any. Now, you can do artificial production*, and it's what Germany did because they didn't have access either, but from what I've seen, the dwarfs just aren't at the level of chemical knowledge and industry where they can do this, or even know that it's possible at all.

*The Haber-Bosch Process is one of the unkown but critical bits that make the modern world possible. It's the reason we don't fight over bird shit anymore, and why people aren't starving all over the place (more than they already are), because it's how we make fertilizers and available sources would've been insufficient even in 1920. To this day, it makes up about 1% of the total energy consumption.
 
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The reason is "sometimes stuff comes up where it's useful to have money, and because of the Vow of Poverty most ways of getting money fast are closed to us, so keeping a rainy-day fund has strategic value." We make 200gc a turn, which is a lot, but which is only two Extensive topics or one Extensive+Antiquarian level topic out of pocket.

I am also interested in pursuing Apparition binding, but not urgently enough to spend 250gc and 4 CF out of pocket right now instead of waiting a turn or two to take the "[ ] [LIBRARY] Colleges of Magic: name four magical, non-divine topics to acquire all available Empire books on. option" and get three other topics thrown in into the bargain.
I see, thank you.

I do worry that these "oh we should do this other thing first, at an optimal time" roadblocks could slow down how quickly we get to Apparition binding much more than anticipated, though. There'll always be new ideas for how to better optimize, or other stuff to use the Library acquisition on... And after that, it'll be waiting for a time deemed sufficiently optimal to get started on apparition binding.

Right now I'm leaning towards adding Apparitions to the purchase list, but I will put some more thought into it first.
 
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We should really wait to use the library option for Apparition books. It'd save a bunch on College Favour - not just the 4 for the Apparition books, but 12 more from four other topics. We're really not in a rush to start binding apparitions. We already have so much to do next turn.
 
We should really wait to use the library option for Apparition books. It'd save a bunch on College Favour - not just the 4 for the Apparition books, but 12 more from four other topics. We're really not in a rush to start binding apparitions. We already have so much to do next turn.

There are enough other topics that we would still be able to get four from that choice even if we buy apparitions now, so I don't see it as losing out on major savings. We also have 22 college favor at the moment, and haven't been spending that much recently, shelling out four here isn't a huge deal I don't think.

Personally I am quite eager to do apparitions though, I don't see that we have such a full slate of urgent tasks that it couldn't be fit in, and it's been quite some time since we payed a high price to get the lore, it would be nice to start working on it. Who knows, maybe next time we run into Drycha we actually could go for bind.
 
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Unexpected problems/opportunities, which by definition can't really be predicted but can often be solved/simplified/taken advantage of through application of money.

I am a little sad there's little interest in sending Baba Brzeginias a present as thanks. She essentially did 100% of the work for us on Paranoth's request with a single spell.
As is, it's competing with books, which is pretty difficult to overcome. Doing it as an add-on should be able to gather plenty of support, though.

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[X] [PURCHASE] The Lady: Extensive Bretonnian, Shallya: Extensive Bretonnian, The Kingdom Of Bretonnia: Extensive Bretonnian, Trade: Extensive Eonir, A dwarven axe for Baba Brzeginias/Gerdouen

Edit: I don't think we need Apparitions right now as opposed to getting them later through the College topics.
[] [PURCHASE] The Lady: Extensive Bretonnian, Shallya: Extensive Bretonnian, The Kingdom Of Bretonnia: Extensive Bretonnian, Trade: Extensive Eonir, Apparitions: Extensive and Esoteric Imperial, A dwarven axe for Baba Brzeginias/Gerdouen
 
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With regards to the Iron Orcs, I'm pondering the potential value of an eventual consult with the Grey Order's in house arrest Chaos Dwarf expert. Maybe there isn't any useful insight to be gleaned, but I can't help but see the potential parallels with outside powers meddling with uncharacteristic minions/supplicants/patsies.


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[X] [COLLEGE] Combat Trained Pegasus and trainer(13 CF)


I will not stop, I will not rest for an instant until we get some Flying Floof. But first, I'm going to buy some donuts.

Ok, decades old Weird Al references aside, I still want it. I want a Griffon more for the Imperial rep and diplo flex, but I like having options. Including those that make our commute to spend time with Panoramia or vice versa easier.
 
There are enough other topics that we would still be able to get four from that choice even if we buy apparitions now, so I don't see it as losing out on major savings.
There aren't that many full magical topics we badly to want to get. Apparitions of course, Forest Spirits since we're working with them in the waystone project, and that's about it. We want Power Stones for AV, but we can get that for the same 4 CF you want for the Apparitions but at 100 gc less. Divine Magic's good but we already have Antiquarian. Liminal Realms, Potions, and Rituals would all be fully filled, but we have no projects or even potential papers on them.

Unless you truly believe there's a good chance we'll do Apparition-related work next turn, it's really not a good idea to buy books for them right now.
 
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What's the rationale behind buying the babushka an axe? It seems pretty random.

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So heres a quick and dirty plan for dealing with the chaos orcs (assuming we want to, that is):

We recruit Adela as a pilot, and she uses the gyro to drop Egrimm and ourselves off in the area. We sneak around, scout out where they are located, cause some mayhem, kill a war boss, blow up a forge or two, and then leave and call in some reinforcements from Karak... Norn? I think? And Carcassonne if possible.

We haven't really done anything crazy with Egrimm yet, and I think he'll enjoy the field trip.
 
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