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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Boney said:
"More than the need to assuage the guilt and shame of a Karaz Ankor that had given up on Karak Vlag? Well, I speculate, but if they were able to communicate with your Ranald and put the question to Him, would He have given them a straight answer?"

You consider that. "Ah."
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Ah. So, they might have asked him "Ranald, what did you do?" and he answered with "I stole a Dwarf soul!" Specifically, he stole a lot of Dwarf souls; he stole Karak Vlag. But he let them believe he stole Mathilde's soul. Or something. Who knows. :V
 
Boney said:
I had a few ideas to start with, but having seen some of the reading material you managed to nab from the former inhabitants of here, I've got much more than a few now.
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does this include our papers on the topic(s) in addition to the raw skaven papers, or just the skaven's stuff? I'd assume it does, but I'd like to check because we wrote a whole paper on how the ratling gun works and I'd be surprised if it wasn't helpful for plans to replicate it.
 
Fun update. Some scattered takeaways:

Boney said:
[*] Karak Vlag about the possibility of entering into an agreement with our library
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This appears in the summary of the vote tally, but is then absent from the update. To be given hope only to then have it taken from you - I now know what the Dawi who lived through the Skedanbryn felt like.
In all seriousness I did get 4 out of the 6 options I voted for, so I'm not really complaining, but I think this line's inclusion in the post is accidental and it should probably be removed.
Boney said:
But if you were to come to us with something more tangible than dreams, then perhaps we might be tempted."
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Yep, that's what I figured. We'll have to revisit the question of recruiting the Dasmels if the books we buy seem really promising (I would hope that literal divine intervention counts as something more tangible than dreams) but no point getting into it now before we actually see what those books have to say.
Boney said:
Things like this, the big problem is that you aren't limited to the few who might actually benefit, there's also all the people who are stupid enough to think they might benefit."
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That's the trouble with the Skull River business, isn't it? The prime suspects - Marienburg and the Empire - don't really have much to gain and they have a lot to lose, but some sub-factions in those factions might have managed to convince themselves otherwise. I hope we'll get to follow up on the investigation sometime soon.
Boney said:
The Lorekeepers would value an institution who can guarantee the safety and spread of knowledge entrusted to it, and if you wish to present yourself as positively as possible to such people, a chapter of the Knights of the Scroll to guard your library would be the most effective way of doing so. The Scrollbearers, however, do not have a better nature that can be enticed thusly, and so you must resort to a quid pro quo approach if you find yourself in need of what only they can offer."
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So the question of whether or not we can get Verenan books is answered, and the answer is yes, but you have to approach each Verenan library on its own - there won't be any 'get an agreement with all Verenans' option. Different libraries will wanted different things, but the main two things are:
1. More BOÖK
2. More security (and ideally more Verenan security)
Good to know.
 
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Maybe Okri would be interested in the paper about ratling guns, it's aimed at how to blow them up with zhuf, but he might still appreciate it.

Unless that paper was what he referred to in the conversation, in that case nevermind.

Fogger seems like a good egg.

Seems like getting maidens involves talking to Athel Loren, which would be interesting considering Drycha.
 
TortugaGreen said:
does this include our papers on the topic(s) in addition to the raw skaven papers, or just the skaven's stuff? I'd assume it does, but I'd like to check because we wrote a whole paper on how the ratling gun works and I'd be surprised if it wasn't helpful for plans to replicate it.
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henkalv said:
Maybe Okri would be interested in the paper about ratling guns, it's aimed at how to blow them up with zhuf, but he might still appreciate it.
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It would have been on his reading list.
 
Boney said:
But if you were to come to us with something more tangible than dreams, then perhaps we might be tempted." She gives you a parting smile and a little wave before she disappears back into the crowd.
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Ah, here it is. We're now completely justified in giving them the hard sell whenever they do decide they want in when we start showing results.
 
henkalv said:
Seems like getting maidens involves talking to Athel Loren, which would be interesting considering Drycha.
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Damsels don't need talking to Athel Loren it requires getting at least some tangible results in our waystone thingy first, showing them that, and them jumping aboard. They can do their own checking with AL, they just want to know the attention spent on the checking is a worthy investment for the result they will get.

EDIT: Or assembling an army and taking out the Iron Orks from the mountains.

Boney said:
but that's no reason for them not to hone their respective edges even further, and you clap them on their backs as they pass and yell something to that effect.
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Lmao.
 
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henkalv said:
Seems like getting maidens involves talking to Athel Loren, which would be interesting considering Drycha.
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I don't think that's what the Damsel was getting at.
Boney said:
"As far as you are aware," she echoes. "As far as I am aware, too. But we would have to become much further aware for that to be a safe endeavour. And the effort of becoming so much further aware is effort that could be spent elsewhere - such as, for example, the Iron Orcs of the Irrana Mountains. But if you were to come to us with something more tangible than dreams, then perhaps we might be tempted."
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She's saying they will have to be doing some investigating of the political situation regarding Athel Loren - possibly including talking to them, I'm not sure - but she's not saying Mathilde is expected to do that. No, what she's saying is that if they're investigating that then there are other things they won't be doing, and wouldn't it be nice if someone did it for them wink wink nudge nudge.

It's the same deal Paranoth gave us: helping you will require me to do some political horse-trading, which will distract me from my actual job, so could you do my actual job for me? The specific example is deailng with the Iron Orcs, which is something they asked us to do when we first pitched the idea of them joining the project.
 
Say that you will about cousin Okri, but he does have ambition:
Okri: So I got together with this Umgi Fire wizard to test out the boiler...
Engineering Guild: *grumbles ominously*
Okri: ...and these Umgi metal wizards to test out the steel alloys
Engineering Guild: *grumbles furiously*
Okri: I am now certain I can through the use of steam and black powder create a version of the Skaven Ratling Gun
Engineering Guild: ...
Priestess of Valaya: Oi Okri that is the second time this month you make them keel over :mob:
 
I don't expect to see significant results from any of Okri Drakkison's stuff for at least another 50-100 years. Though minor variations on already proven concepts are certainly feasible before then. Still, a Dawi working on a proper machine-gun? That's a scary thing indeed, and one I can only hope we are around long enough to see succeed. Very few things would screw over the skaven more than a proper machine gun.
 
DragonParadox said:
Say that you will about cousin Okri, but he does have ambition:
Okri: So I got together with this Umgi Fire wizard to test out the boiler...
Engineering Guild: *grumbles ominously*
Okri: ...and these Umgi metal wizards to test out the steel alloys
Engineering Guild: *grumbles furiously*
Okri: I am now certain I can through the use of steam and black powder create a version of the Skaven Ratling Gun
Engineering Guild: ...
Priestess of Valaya: Oi Okri that is the second time this month you make them keel over :mob:
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Reminds me of this scene
Chopak said:
So he's working with multiple golds? As in the Gold Order that got a lot of Skaven Loot recently?
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The golden order
 
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